As her own mask is down, love ittruefreedom wrote: ↑December 25th, 2021, 11:46 am .
The crazy covid/mask cult
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Is the crazy woman a passenger or an attendant? She can spit venom into the face of someone minding his business?
Seems like there is increasing anecdotal evidence of behavioral anomalies occurring in the vaccinated. Also, seems that the vaccinated have additional issues from air travel conditions. Pilots are at greater risk from blood clotting
Seems like there is increasing anecdotal evidence of behavioral anomalies occurring in the vaccinated. Also, seems that the vaccinated have additional issues from air travel conditions. Pilots are at greater risk from blood clotting
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Fred~ Do you have a vaccine injured child? We do. I understand your anger. I'm not sure general ignorance counts as mortal sin though.Fred wrote: ↑December 26th, 2021, 1:28 pm The vaxxed have 2 things going against them. First, they are incredibly stupid. Second, they are disciples of satan. The best option they have is suicide, wherein they get to hell faster. Otherwise, they are also participants in the greatest lie ever told. Participants share responsibility for all of the murders.
Sins of omission based on my own ignorance over a lifetime have impacted the lives of others. I can’t go back to repair them. I can pray they survived any stumbling blocks I placed in their way & that they forgive my stupidity.
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So I have some sobering thoughts for anyone rationale and skeptical.
Read this:
https://science.psu.edu/news/some-vacci ... nt-viruses
Summary: imperfect vaccines protect vaccinated against serious disease, but allow viruses to spread and mutate more readily in the wild and over time (50 years) can lead to very deadly, debilitating results.
In light of this, imperfect flu vaccines are putting evolutionary pressure on the flu to get worse. Imperfect, and widely distributed covid vaccines do the same.
Why would "they" want this? Well, it eventually makes everyone dependent on the vaccine and literally kills those who don't comply. It's the long game. Maybe "they" didn't know at first. But I bet the adversary does.
The disgusting irony is, despite the risks associated with the imperfect vaccine, despite the fact that the vaccinated become a threat to the unvaccinated, the rational individual solution might be to get vaccinated.
I'd appreciate any other level headed game theory of this situation. If you have immunities already you'll be safe(r). But let's think about 5 years from now. 20 years from now. Each generation no longer has a chance to get exposed to the weak form of covid. In 20 years, vaccination might be the best solution because covid has been made more deadly from vaccination.
Boosters and kids shots are exacerbating more covid, but without them the unvaccinated will become more at risk to the next deadly strain.
The world has been on this trend regardless of what any of us or the church says. We are the same situation as always - left with a bad and a worse solution.
Read this:
https://science.psu.edu/news/some-vacci ... nt-viruses
Summary: imperfect vaccines protect vaccinated against serious disease, but allow viruses to spread and mutate more readily in the wild and over time (50 years) can lead to very deadly, debilitating results.
In light of this, imperfect flu vaccines are putting evolutionary pressure on the flu to get worse. Imperfect, and widely distributed covid vaccines do the same.
Why would "they" want this? Well, it eventually makes everyone dependent on the vaccine and literally kills those who don't comply. It's the long game. Maybe "they" didn't know at first. But I bet the adversary does.
The disgusting irony is, despite the risks associated with the imperfect vaccine, despite the fact that the vaccinated become a threat to the unvaccinated, the rational individual solution might be to get vaccinated.
I'd appreciate any other level headed game theory of this situation. If you have immunities already you'll be safe(r). But let's think about 5 years from now. 20 years from now. Each generation no longer has a chance to get exposed to the weak form of covid. In 20 years, vaccination might be the best solution because covid has been made more deadly from vaccination.
Boosters and kids shots are exacerbating more covid, but without them the unvaccinated will become more at risk to the next deadly strain.
The world has been on this trend regardless of what any of us or the church says. We are the same situation as always - left with a bad and a worse solution.
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I have an autistic daughter and I can't prove that a vaccine caused it. But I was referring to the covid vax. I would never allow a newborn to get any shot or even be born in a hospital or even get a social security number. My own stupidity may have played a part in that. But now, with literally millions of children harmed by shots, there is less of an excuse to be blind. To get a covid shot in todays world of abundant information available in microseconds, is in my opinion self induced stupidity. I have no sympathy whatsoever for any adult that willingly got the jab. none. zero. I have grand sons in the air force, both of which got jabbed. I thought I had taught them better. I was wrong. The sooner the jabbed die, the sooner it will be painfully obvious what a scam it is. I would have thought one must be dumb as a rock to get the shot already, but some are in a very deep sleep.buffalo_girl wrote: ↑December 26th, 2021, 2:18 pmFred~ Do you have a vaccine injured child? We do. I understand your anger. I'm not sure general ignorance counts as mortal sin though.Fred wrote: ↑December 26th, 2021, 1:28 pm The vaxxed have 2 things going against them. First, they are incredibly stupid. Second, they are disciples of satan. The best option they have is suicide, wherein they get to hell faster. Otherwise, they are also participants in the greatest lie ever told. Participants share responsibility for all of the murders.
Sins of omission based on my own ignorance over a lifetime have impacted the lives of others. I can’t go back to repair them. I can pray they survived any stumbling blocks I placed in their way & that they forgive my stupidity.
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I see no reason to get a shot that compromises your immune system. Some are naturally immune without having been exposed. Certain bloodlines are blessed. Others are cursed. Either way, God's immune system is the best thing going. Join satan if you want, but it is neither necessary or advised.Ciams wrote: ↑December 26th, 2021, 2:51 pm So I have some sobering thoughts for anyone rationale and skeptical.
Read this:
https://science.psu.edu/news/some-vacci ... nt-viruses
Summary: imperfect vaccines protect vaccinated against serious disease, but allow viruses to spread and mutate more readily in the wild and over time (50 years) can lead to very deadly, debilitating results.
In light of this, imperfect flu vaccines are putting evolutionary pressure on the flu to get worse. Imperfect, and widely distributed covid vaccines do the same.
Why would "they" want this? Well, it eventually makes everyone dependent on the vaccine and literally kills those who don't comply. It's the long game. Maybe "they" didn't know at first. But I bet the adversary does.
The disgusting irony is, despite the risks associated with the imperfect vaccine, despite the fact that the vaccinated become a threat to the unvaccinated, the rational individual solution might be to get vaccinated.
I'd appreciate any other level headed game theory of this situation. If you have immunities already you'll be safe(r). But let's think about 5 years from now. 20 years from now. Each generation no longer has a chance to get exposed to the weak form of covid. In 20 years, vaccination might be the best solution because covid has been made more deadly from vaccination.
Boosters and kids shots are exacerbating more covid, but without them the unvaccinated will become more at risk to the next deadly strain.
The world has been on this trend regardless of what any of us or the church says. We are the same situation as always - left with a bad and a worse solution.
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Ciams wrote: ↑December 26th, 2021, 2:51 pm So I have some sobering thoughts for anyone rationale and skeptical.
Read this:
https://science.psu.edu/news/some-vacci ... nt-viruses
Summary: imperfect vaccines protect vaccinated against serious disease, but allow viruses to spread and mutate more readily in the wild and over time (50 years) can lead to very deadly, debilitating results.
In light of this, imperfect flu vaccines are putting evolutionary pressure on the flu to get worse. Imperfect, and widely distributed covid vaccines do the same.
Why would "they" want this? Well, it eventually makes everyone dependent on the vaccine and literally kills those who don't comply. It's the long game. Maybe "they" didn't know at first. But I bet the adversary does.
The disgusting irony is, despite the risks associated with the imperfect vaccine, despite the fact that the vaccinated become a threat to the unvaccinated, the rational individual solution might be to get vaccinated.
I'd appreciate any other level headed game theory of this situation. If you have immunities already you'll be safe(r). But let's think about 5 years from now. 20 years from now. Each generation no longer has a chance to get exposed to the weak form of covid. In 20 years, vaccination might be the best solution because covid has been made more deadly from vaccination.
Boosters and kids shots are exacerbating more covid, but without them the unvaccinated will become more at risk to the next deadly strain.
The world has been on this trend regardless of what any of us or the church says. We are the same situation as always - left with a bad and a worse solution.
No. I don't buy the theory at all. And, it has not been my personal experience in life.
I do know the theory is the underlying basis for the discontinued use of penicillin and the hesitancy of doctors to prescribe anti-biotics.
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I read Viruses: Agents of Change, by Ann-Giudici-Fettner, 30-years ago. I found it fascinating even comforting in her explanation of how viral immunity is passed on to future generations of direct bloodlines.
https://www.amazon.com/Viruses-Agents-A ... 0070206643
It was partly due to my memory of this book that I decided I would NOT be vaccinated with the mRNA vaccine. We didn't know a whole lot about AIDS in the early 1990's, and we sure didn't fully understand that a retro-virus was an engineered pathogen that compromised the immune system much as the mRNA vaccines appear to also do, but with greater vengeance. How wonderful to know that Fauci was at 'ground zero' in the development of this particular gain of function curiosity. Wonder how he engineered his longevity....
https://www.amazon.com/Viruses-Agents-A ... 0070206643
It was partly due to my memory of this book that I decided I would NOT be vaccinated with the mRNA vaccine. We didn't know a whole lot about AIDS in the early 1990's, and we sure didn't fully understand that a retro-virus was an engineered pathogen that compromised the immune system much as the mRNA vaccines appear to also do, but with greater vengeance. How wonderful to know that Fauci was at 'ground zero' in the development of this particular gain of function curiosity. Wonder how he engineered his longevity....
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I'm in the other camp. I love Fred's posts. Nails the truth just about every time he posts. Fred has done nothing wrong, but call out evil people who deserve every bit of it.AstonishingGrunt wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 8:44 amDespite the general nastiness of the Internet, I consider it a rare event to encounter someone whose posts just regularly disgust me. But you, sir, fall into that category. Your narrow, dogmatic, black-or-white thinking, combined with a healthy dose of contempt, if not outright hatred, for any who don't share your worldview makes you one of the most toxic posters on social media. Congratulations...I guess.Fred wrote: ↑December 26th, 2021, 1:28 pm The vaxxed have 2 things going against them. First, they are incredibly stupid. Second, they are disciples of satan. The best option they have is suicide, wherein they get to hell faster. Otherwise, they are also participants in the greatest lie ever told. Participants share responsibility for all of the murders.
If you got this horrific shot you are a supporter and participant in pure evil, and are a scourge on this planet. If you wear a mask, you are a my enemy because you are helping to destroy human freedom and decency all over the world. You are a very bad person and unworthy to be a Christian. You deserve the hell that is coming for you. You are worse than a pedophile and a child murderer.
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There is no difference between doing evil knowingly or out of ignorance.buffalo_girl wrote: ↑December 26th, 2021, 2:18 pmFred~ Do you have a vaccine injured child? We do. I understand your anger. I'm not sure general ignorance counts as mortal sin though.Fred wrote: ↑December 26th, 2021, 1:28 pm The vaxxed have 2 things going against them. First, they are incredibly stupid. Second, they are disciples of satan. The best option they have is suicide, wherein they get to hell faster. Otherwise, they are also participants in the greatest lie ever told. Participants share responsibility for all of the murders.
Sins of omission based on my own ignorance over a lifetime have impacted the lives of others. I can’t go back to repair them. I can pray they survived any stumbling blocks I placed in their way & that they forgive my stupidity.
"But, it may be inquired, how are the humble, honest souls to discern between truth and
falsehood? Must they be condemned with liars, because they are deceived with lies? We answer,
that all will be condemned who suffer themselves to be deceived: for there is a way for every
person to come to the light of truth; and it is not in the power of the devil to invent lies so plausible
as to prevent the really honest person from discovering the truth that pertains to his salvation. The scriptures have expressly declared, that "cursed is he that putteth his trust in man or maketh fleshhis arm." Now any person who will put his confidence and trust in popular lies, invented by the devil to prevent the people from discovering the truth, must rest under that curse, and in the day of
judgment be condemned with liars."
Orson Pratt
"Some may question the justice of a law which denies blessings to one who has lived
honorably according to his beliefs but who has been misled by false teachings. We must
recognize, however, that no one can possibly receive a blessing unless he has obeyed that law
upon which the blessing is predicated. (D&C 130:21) If one is ignorant of the law in question or
misconstrues its meaning, we will never become entitled to that blessing.
The scriptures assure us that God will do no injustice to any man. We must conclude
therefore, that if an honorable person has been deceived, he has failed in some way. Either he has
not sought for the truth diligently enough or he has not searched in the right place."
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I am also in Fred’s camp. I have kids and grandkids who have gotten the jab, some because they are libtards, and some because they “follow the prophet” but both camps just want life to go back to normal so they can have “fun” again.TrueFaith wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 10:53 amI'm in the other camp. I love Fred's posts. Nails the truth just about every time he posts. Fred has done nothing wrong, but call out evil people who deserve every bit of it.AstonishingGrunt wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 8:44 amDespite the general nastiness of the Internet, I consider it a rare event to encounter someone whose posts just regularly disgust me. But you, sir, fall into that category. Your narrow, dogmatic, black-or-white thinking, combined with a healthy dose of contempt, if not outright hatred, for any who don't share your worldview makes you one of the most toxic posters on social media. Congratulations...I guess.Fred wrote: ↑December 26th, 2021, 1:28 pm The vaxxed have 2 things going against them. First, they are incredibly stupid. Second, they are disciples of satan. The best option they have is suicide, wherein they get to hell faster. Otherwise, they are also participants in the greatest lie ever told. Participants share responsibility for all of the murders.
If you got this horrific shot you are a supporter and participant in pure evil, and are a scourge on this planet. If you wear a mask, you are a my enemy because you are helping to destroy human freedom and decency all over the world. You are a very bad person and unworthy to be a Christian. You deserve the hell that is coming for you. You are worse than a pedophile and a child murderer.
There are a lot of evil people to call out, and I admire Fred for doing so. Our wise government leaders, and trusted church leaders all have blood on their hands. May they burn in hell if they don’t repent SOON, before even more die.
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NY Times Editor dead day after taking booster.
Only one day earlier, Carlos boasted on Instagram that he’d just received a Moderna booster, jesting he filled out a form he couldn’t understand and was now a member of a K-pop fan club.
“Hey Omicron: Hit me with your wet snot,” he jokingly dared.
Back in January, Tejada opined about having the “privilege” to access vaccines “like the J&J jab Nora and I got just this morning.”
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https://www.infowars.com/posts/ny-times ... oster-jab/
Only one day earlier, Carlos boasted on Instagram that he’d just received a Moderna booster, jesting he filled out a form he couldn’t understand and was now a member of a K-pop fan club.
“Hey Omicron: Hit me with your wet snot,” he jokingly dared.
Back in January, Tejada opined about having the “privilege” to access vaccines “like the J&J jab Nora and I got just this morning.”
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https://www.infowars.com/posts/ny-times ... oster-jab/
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Yes, yes, of course. In my brief time here, thus far, I quickly identified you, Fred and Lizzy60 as the Unholy Trinity of hyper-paranoia, hate-filled commentary, race baiting, and wishing death upon others. Despite my years, I continue to find it astounding that the same people who claim to follow the man who said - "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... eng#p43,44)" - will, in the same breath, wish death upon all who view the world differently from them. That sounds very Old Testament, to be sure, but not very 'Christ-Like.'TrueFaith wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 10:53 amI'm in the other camp. I love Fred's posts. Nails the truth just about every time he posts. Fred has done nothing wrong, but call out evil people who deserve every bit of it.AstonishingGrunt wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 8:44 amDespite the general nastiness of the Internet, I consider it a rare event to encounter someone whose posts just regularly disgust me. But you, sir, fall into that category. Your narrow, dogmatic, black-or-white thinking, combined with a healthy dose of contempt, if not outright hatred, for any who don't share your worldview makes you one of the most toxic posters on social media. Congratulations...I guess.Fred wrote: ↑December 26th, 2021, 1:28 pm The vaxxed have 2 things going against them. First, they are incredibly stupid. Second, they are disciples of satan. The best option they have is suicide, wherein they get to hell faster. Otherwise, they are also participants in the greatest lie ever told. Participants share responsibility for all of the murders.
If you got this horrific shot you are a supporter and participant in pure evil, and are a scourge on this planet. If you wear a mask, you are a my enemy because you are helping to destroy human freedom and decency all over the world. You are a very bad person and unworthy to be a Christian. You deserve the hell that is coming for you. You are worse than a pedophile and a child murderer.
But, here I sit, having received three doses of the vaccine, and wear my mask on occasion as a courtesy to others, and I am the hell-bound person in bondage to Satan? You see, I expend exactly zero energy on impossible conspiracy theories, hatred of large groups of people, or fear of the bogeyman. I live my life as an educated, middle-aged, white male, U.S. citizen, political moderate, independent of political party, gun-owner, exmo, with an upper middle class income, my choice of multiple European-made sports cars in my garage, and a smile on my face as I care for the ones I love and have enough left over to help the down-trodden, the exploited, the marginalized, and the hated, in whatever way I can because I feel a responsibility to my neighbor, regardless of color, creed, or nationality. I may no longer believe in Christ as a divine being, but it seems my life is far more in harmony with Christian principles than the hate-filled, paranoid version you seem to espouse.
So, yes, carry-on with spreading your foul views on 'foreigners' invading your alleged Promised Land, wring your hands over alleged conspiracies to crush you under the heel of a single world government, wish death upon those who don't believe as you do, fret over taxes you'll never actually have to pay because you don't make enough money to worry about it, squirrel away food that will rot and 'invest' in precious metals that you bury in your backyard, and allow all of that anger, hate, and fear to consume you. In the long-run, none of these prophecies to which you cling like a frightened child will actually come to pass, and no invisible beings will reveal themselves by descending from the sky or by possessing your soul. Someday, death will come for all of us, but you will have expended all of your time, money and energy in fighting a non-existent enemy only to alienate yourselves from friends and family and the joys of life to be remembered as a hateful, petty, person who was ultimately wrong about, well, everything. Watching the likes of you vomit your vitriol and paranoia is, at least to this observer, both terribly sad and hilariously laughable all at the same time.
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Don't justify your sin. Repent before it's too late.AstonishingGrunt wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 12:47 pmYes, yes, of course. In my brief time here, thus far, I quickly identified you, Fred and Lizzy60 as the Unholy Trinity of hyper-paranoia, hate-filled commentary, race baiting, and wishing death upon others. Despite my years, I continue to find it astounding that the same people who claim to follow the man who said - "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... eng#p43,44)" - will, in the same breath, wish death upon all who view the world differently from them. That sounds very Old Testament, to be sure, but not very 'Christ-Like.'TrueFaith wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 10:53 amI'm in the other camp. I love Fred's posts. Nails the truth just about every time he posts. Fred has done nothing wrong, but call out evil people who deserve every bit of it.AstonishingGrunt wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 8:44 amDespite the general nastiness of the Internet, I consider it a rare event to encounter someone whose posts just regularly disgust me. But you, sir, fall into that category. Your narrow, dogmatic, black-or-white thinking, combined with a healthy dose of contempt, if not outright hatred, for any who don't share your worldview makes you one of the most toxic posters on social media. Congratulations...I guess.Fred wrote: ↑December 26th, 2021, 1:28 pm The vaxxed have 2 things going against them. First, they are incredibly stupid. Second, they are disciples of satan. The best option they have is suicide, wherein they get to hell faster. Otherwise, they are also participants in the greatest lie ever told. Participants share responsibility for all of the murders.
If you got this horrific shot you are a supporter and participant in pure evil, and are a scourge on this planet. If you wear a mask, you are a my enemy because you are helping to destroy human freedom and decency all over the world. You are a very bad person and unworthy to be a Christian. You deserve the hell that is coming for you. You are worse than a pedophile and a child murderer.
But, here I sit, having received three doses of the vaccine, and wear my mask on occasion as a courtesy to others, and I am the hell-bound person in bondage to Satan? You see, I expend exactly zero energy on impossible conspiracy theories, hatred of large groups of people, or fear of the bogeyman. I live my life as an educated, middle-aged, white male, U.S. citizen, political moderate, independent of political party, gun-owner, exmo, with an upper middle class income, my choice of multiple European-made sports cars in my garage, and a smile on my face as I care for the ones I love and have enough left over to help the down-trodden, the exploited, the marginalized, and the hated, in whatever way I can because I feel a responsibility to my neighbor, regardless of color, creed, or nationality. I may no longer believe in Christ as a divine being, but it seems my life is far more in harmony with Christian principles than the hate-filled, paranoid version you seem to espouse.
So, yes, carry-on with spreading your foul views on 'foreigners' invading your alleged Promised Land, wring your hands over alleged conspiracies to crush you under the heel of a single world government, wish death upon those who don't believe as you do, fret over taxes you'll never actually have to pay because you don't make enough money to worry about it, squirrel away food that will rot and 'invest' in previous metals that you bury in your backyard, and allow all of that anger, hate, and fear to consume you. In the long-run, none of these prophecies to which you cling like a frightened child will actually come to pass, and no invisible beings will reveal themselves by descending from the sky or by possessing your soul. Someday, death will come for all of us, but you will have expended all of your time, money and energy in fighting a non-existent enemy only to alienate yourselves from friends and family and the joys of life to be remembered as a hateful, petty, person who was ultimately wrong about, well, everything. Watching the likes of you vomit your vitriol and paranoia is, at least to this observer, both terribly sad and hilariously laughable all at the same time.
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TrueFaith wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 12:51 pmDon't justify your sin. Repent before it's too late.AstonishingGrunt wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 12:47 pmYes, yes, of course. In my brief time here, thus far, I quickly identified you, Fred and Lizzy60 as the Unholy Trinity of hyper-paranoia, hate-filled commentary, race baiting, and wishing death upon others. Despite my years, I continue to find it astounding that the same people who claim to follow the man who said - "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... eng#p43,44)" - will, in the same breath, wish death upon all who view the world differently from them. That sounds very Old Testament, to be sure, but not very 'Christ-Like.'TrueFaith wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 10:53 amI'm in the other camp. I love Fred's posts. Nails the truth just about every time he posts. Fred has done nothing wrong, but call out evil people who deserve every bit of it.AstonishingGrunt wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 8:44 am
Despite the general nastiness of the Internet, I consider it a rare event to encounter someone whose posts just regularly disgust me. But you, sir, fall into that category. Your narrow, dogmatic, black-or-white thinking, combined with a healthy dose of contempt, if not outright hatred, for any who don't share your worldview makes you one of the most toxic posters on social media. Congratulations...I guess.
If you got this horrific shot you are a supporter and participant in pure evil, and are a scourge on this planet. If you wear a mask, you are a my enemy because you are helping to destroy human freedom and decency all over the world. You are a very bad person and unworthy to be a Christian. You deserve the hell that is coming for you. You are worse than a pedophile and a child murderer.
But, here I sit, having received three doses of the vaccine, and wear my mask on occasion as a courtesy to others, and I am the hell-bound person in bondage to Satan? You see, I expend exactly zero energy on impossible conspiracy theories, hatred of large groups of people, or fear of the bogeyman. I live my life as an educated, middle-aged, white male, U.S. citizen, political moderate, independent of political party, gun-owner, exmo, with an upper middle class income, my choice of multiple European-made sports cars in my garage, and a smile on my face as I care for the ones I love and have enough left over to help the down-trodden, the exploited, the marginalized, and the hated, in whatever way I can because I feel a responsibility to my neighbor, regardless of color, creed, or nationality. I may no longer believe in Christ as a divine being, but it seems my life is far more in harmony with Christian principles than the hate-filled, paranoid version you seem to espouse.
So, yes, carry-on with spreading your foul views on 'foreigners' invading your alleged Promised Land, wring your hands over alleged conspiracies to crush you under the heel of a single world government, wish death upon those who don't believe as you do, fret over taxes you'll never actually have to pay because you don't make enough money to worry about it, squirrel away food that will rot and 'invest' in previous metals that you bury in your backyard, and allow all of that anger, hate, and fear to consume you. In the long-run, none of these prophecies to which you cling like a frightened child will actually come to pass, and no invisible beings will reveal themselves by descending from the sky or by possessing your soul. Someday, death will come for all of us, but you will have expended all of your time, money and energy in fighting a non-existent enemy only to alienate yourselves from friends and family and the joys of life to be remembered as a hateful, petty, person who was ultimately wrong about, well, everything. Watching the likes of you vomit your vitriol and paranoia is, at least to this observer, both terribly sad and hilariously laughable all at the same time.

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I have to say thank you for this post. I know many people of different faiths or of no faith at all that expound on Christian principles much better than those that claim to be Christian. If everyone in the Church were like Fred, I would not only not join the Church but would be telling people to stay away from those people. Thankfully, despite what many people may believe, the Church has a diverse set of people in it, and the people that think as Fred does are a minority in the worldwide Church and getting smaller.AstonishingGrunt wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 12:47 pmYes, yes, of course. In my brief time here, thus far, I quickly identified you, Fred and Lizzy60 as the Unholy Trinity of hyper-paranoia, hate-filled commentary, race baiting, and wishing death upon others. Despite my years, I continue to find it astounding that the same people who claim to follow the man who said - "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... eng#p43,44)" - will, in the same breath, wish death upon all who view the world differently from them. That sounds very Old Testament, to be sure, but not very 'Christ-Like.'TrueFaith wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 10:53 amI'm in the other camp. I love Fred's posts. Nails the truth just about every time he posts. Fred has done nothing wrong, but call out evil people who deserve every bit of it.AstonishingGrunt wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 8:44 amDespite the general nastiness of the Internet, I consider it a rare event to encounter someone whose posts just regularly disgust me. But you, sir, fall into that category. Your narrow, dogmatic, black-or-white thinking, combined with a healthy dose of contempt, if not outright hatred, for any who don't share your worldview makes you one of the most toxic posters on social media. Congratulations...I guess.Fred wrote: ↑December 26th, 2021, 1:28 pm The vaxxed have 2 things going against them. First, they are incredibly stupid. Second, they are disciples of satan. The best option they have is suicide, wherein they get to hell faster. Otherwise, they are also participants in the greatest lie ever told. Participants share responsibility for all of the murders.
If you got this horrific shot you are a supporter and participant in pure evil, and are a scourge on this planet. If you wear a mask, you are a my enemy because you are helping to destroy human freedom and decency all over the world. You are a very bad person and unworthy to be a Christian. You deserve the hell that is coming for you. You are worse than a pedophile and a child murderer.
But, here I sit, having received three doses of the vaccine, and wear my mask on occasion as a courtesy to others, and I am the hell-bound person in bondage to Satan? You see, I expend exactly zero energy on impossible conspiracy theories, hatred of large groups of people, or fear of the bogeyman. I live my life as an educated, middle-aged, white male, U.S. citizen, political moderate, independent of political party, gun-owner, exmo, with an upper middle class income, my choice of multiple European-made sports cars in my garage, and a smile on my face as I care for the ones I love and have enough left over to help the down-trodden, the exploited, the marginalized, and the hated, in whatever way I can because I feel a responsibility to my neighbor, regardless of color, creed, or nationality. I may no longer believe in Christ as a divine being, but it seems my life is far more in harmony with Christian principles than the hate-filled, paranoid version you seem to espouse.
So, yes, carry-on with spreading your foul views on 'foreigners' invading your alleged Promised Land, wring your hands over alleged conspiracies to crush you under the heel of a single world government, wish death upon those who don't believe as you do, fret over taxes you'll never actually have to pay because you don't make enough money to worry about it, squirrel away food that will rot and 'invest' in previous metals that you bury in your backyard, and allow all of that anger, hate, and fear to consume you. In the long-run, none of these prophecies to which you cling like a frightened child will actually come to pass, and no invisible beings will reveal themselves by descending from the sky or by possessing your soul. Someday, death will come for all of us, but you will have expended all of your time, money and energy in fighting a non-existent enemy only to alienate yourselves from friends and family and the joys of life to be remembered as a hateful, petty, person who was ultimately wrong about, well, everything. Watching the likes of you vomit your vitriol and paranoia is, at least to this observer, both terribly sad and hilariously laughable all at the same time.
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You are the hater here not I, you've supported something which is hurting children and destroying freedom.AstonishingGrunt wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 1:36 pmTrueFaith wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 12:51 pmDon't justify your sin. Repent before it's too late.AstonishingGrunt wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 12:47 pmYes, yes, of course. In my brief time here, thus far, I quickly identified you, Fred and Lizzy60 as the Unholy Trinity of hyper-paranoia, hate-filled commentary, race baiting, and wishing death upon others. Despite my years, I continue to find it astounding that the same people who claim to follow the man who said - "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... eng#p43,44)" - will, in the same breath, wish death upon all who view the world differently from them. That sounds very Old Testament, to be sure, but not very 'Christ-Like.'TrueFaith wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 10:53 am
I'm in the other camp. I love Fred's posts. Nails the truth just about every time he posts. Fred has done nothing wrong, but call out evil people who deserve every bit of it.
If you got this horrific shot you are a supporter and participant in pure evil, and are a scourge on this planet. If you wear a mask, you are a my enemy because you are helping to destroy human freedom and decency all over the world. You are a very bad person and unworthy to be a Christian. You deserve the hell that is coming for you. You are worse than a pedophile and a child murderer.
But, here I sit, having received three doses of the vaccine, and wear my mask on occasion as a courtesy to others, and I am the hell-bound person in bondage to Satan? You see, I expend exactly zero energy on impossible conspiracy theories, hatred of large groups of people, or fear of the bogeyman. I live my life as an educated, middle-aged, white male, U.S. citizen, political moderate, independent of political party, gun-owner, exmo, with an upper middle class income, my choice of multiple European-made sports cars in my garage, and a smile on my face as I care for the ones I love and have enough left over to help the down-trodden, the exploited, the marginalized, and the hated, in whatever way I can because I feel a responsibility to my neighbor, regardless of color, creed, or nationality. I may no longer believe in Christ as a divine being, but it seems my life is far more in harmony with Christian principles than the hate-filled, paranoid version you seem to espouse.
So, yes, carry-on with spreading your foul views on 'foreigners' invading your alleged Promised Land, wring your hands over alleged conspiracies to crush you under the heel of a single world government, wish death upon those who don't believe as you do, fret over taxes you'll never actually have to pay because you don't make enough money to worry about it, squirrel away food that will rot and 'invest' in previous metals that you bury in your backyard, and allow all of that anger, hate, and fear to consume you. In the long-run, none of these prophecies to which you cling like a frightened child will actually come to pass, and no invisible beings will reveal themselves by descending from the sky or by possessing your soul. Someday, death will come for all of us, but you will have expended all of your time, money and energy in fighting a non-existent enemy only to alienate yourselves from friends and family and the joys of life to be remembered as a hateful, petty, person who was ultimately wrong about, well, everything. Watching the likes of you vomit your vitriol and paranoia is, at least to this observer, both terribly sad and hilariously laughable all at the same time.![]()
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Birds of a feather.Subcomandante wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 1:42 pmI have to say thank you for this post. I know many people of different faiths or of no faith at all that expound on Christian principles much better than those that claim to be Christian. If everyone in the Church were like Fred, I would not only not join the Church but would be telling people to stay away from those people. Thankfully, despite what many people may believe, the Church has a diverse set of people in it, and the people that think as Fred does are a minority in the worldwide Church and getting smaller.AstonishingGrunt wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 12:47 pmYes, yes, of course. In my brief time here, thus far, I quickly identified you, Fred and Lizzy60 as the Unholy Trinity of hyper-paranoia, hate-filled commentary, race baiting, and wishing death upon others. Despite my years, I continue to find it astounding that the same people who claim to follow the man who said - "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... eng#p43,44)" - will, in the same breath, wish death upon all who view the world differently from them. That sounds very Old Testament, to be sure, but not very 'Christ-Like.'TrueFaith wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 10:53 amI'm in the other camp. I love Fred's posts. Nails the truth just about every time he posts. Fred has done nothing wrong, but call out evil people who deserve every bit of it.AstonishingGrunt wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 8:44 am
Despite the general nastiness of the Internet, I consider it a rare event to encounter someone whose posts just regularly disgust me. But you, sir, fall into that category. Your narrow, dogmatic, black-or-white thinking, combined with a healthy dose of contempt, if not outright hatred, for any who don't share your worldview makes you one of the most toxic posters on social media. Congratulations...I guess.
If you got this horrific shot you are a supporter and participant in pure evil, and are a scourge on this planet. If you wear a mask, you are a my enemy because you are helping to destroy human freedom and decency all over the world. You are a very bad person and unworthy to be a Christian. You deserve the hell that is coming for you. You are worse than a pedophile and a child murderer.
But, here I sit, having received three doses of the vaccine, and wear my mask on occasion as a courtesy to others, and I am the hell-bound person in bondage to Satan? You see, I expend exactly zero energy on impossible conspiracy theories, hatred of large groups of people, or fear of the bogeyman. I live my life as an educated, middle-aged, white male, U.S. citizen, political moderate, independent of political party, gun-owner, exmo, with an upper middle class income, my choice of multiple European-made sports cars in my garage, and a smile on my face as I care for the ones I love and have enough left over to help the down-trodden, the exploited, the marginalized, and the hated, in whatever way I can because I feel a responsibility to my neighbor, regardless of color, creed, or nationality. I may no longer believe in Christ as a divine being, but it seems my life is far more in harmony with Christian principles than the hate-filled, paranoid version you seem to espouse.
So, yes, carry-on with spreading your foul views on 'foreigners' invading your alleged Promised Land, wring your hands over alleged conspiracies to crush you under the heel of a single world government, wish death upon those who don't believe as you do, fret over taxes you'll never actually have to pay because you don't make enough money to worry about it, squirrel away food that will rot and 'invest' in previous metals that you bury in your backyard, and allow all of that anger, hate, and fear to consume you. In the long-run, none of these prophecies to which you cling like a frightened child will actually come to pass, and no invisible beings will reveal themselves by descending from the sky or by possessing your soul. Someday, death will come for all of us, but you will have expended all of your time, money and energy in fighting a non-existent enemy only to alienate yourselves from friends and family and the joys of life to be remembered as a hateful, petty, person who was ultimately wrong about, well, everything. Watching the likes of you vomit your vitriol and paranoia is, at least to this observer, both terribly sad and hilariously laughable all at the same time.
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TrueFaith wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 5:57 pmYou are the hater here, you've tried to murder children by supporting this evil.AstonishingGrunt wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 1:36 pmTrueFaith wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 12:51 pmDon't justify your sin. Repent before it's too late.AstonishingGrunt wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 12:47 pm
Yes, yes, of course. In my brief time here, thus far, I quickly identified you, Fred and Lizzy60 as the Unholy Trinity of hyper-paranoia, hate-filled commentary, race baiting, and wishing death upon others. Despite my years, I continue to find it astounding that the same people who claim to follow the man who said - "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... eng#p43,44)" - will, in the same breath, wish death upon all who view the world differently from them. That sounds very Old Testament, to be sure, but not very 'Christ-Like.'
But, here I sit, having received three doses of the vaccine, and wear my mask on occasion as a courtesy to others, and I am the hell-bound person in bondage to Satan? You see, I expend exactly zero energy on impossible conspiracy theories, hatred of large groups of people, or fear of the bogeyman. I live my life as an educated, middle-aged, white male, U.S. citizen, political moderate, independent of political party, gun-owner, exmo, with an upper middle class income, my choice of multiple European-made sports cars in my garage, and a smile on my face as I care for the ones I love and have enough left over to help the down-trodden, the exploited, the marginalized, and the hated, in whatever way I can because I feel a responsibility to my neighbor, regardless of color, creed, or nationality. I may no longer believe in Christ as a divine being, but it seems my life is far more in harmony with Christian principles than the hate-filled, paranoid version you seem to espouse.
So, yes, carry-on with spreading your foul views on 'foreigners' invading your alleged Promised Land, wring your hands over alleged conspiracies to crush you under the heel of a single world government, wish death upon those who don't believe as you do, fret over taxes you'll never actually have to pay because you don't make enough money to worry about it, squirrel away food that will rot and 'invest' in previous metals that you bury in your backyard, and allow all of that anger, hate, and fear to consume you. In the long-run, none of these prophecies to which you cling like a frightened child will actually come to pass, and no invisible beings will reveal themselves by descending from the sky or by possessing your soul. Someday, death will come for all of us, but you will have expended all of your time, money and energy in fighting a non-existent enemy only to alienate yourselves from friends and family and the joys of life to be remembered as a hateful, petty, person who was ultimately wrong about, well, everything. Watching the likes of you vomit your vitriol and paranoia is, at least to this observer, both terribly sad and hilariously laughable all at the same time.![]()

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As much as I am opposed to everything about the fake pandemic and unprecedented evil and tyranny being perpetrated on the people, comments like this are not appropriate on LDSFF. You took this way too far over the line.TrueFaith wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 10:53 amIf you got this horrific shot you are a supporter and participant in pure evil, and are a scourge on this planet. If you wear a mask, you are a my enemy because you are helping to destroy human freedom and decency all over the world. You are a very bad person and unworthy to be a Christian. You deserve the hell that is coming for you. You are worse than a pedophile and a child murderer.
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True: also it just isn't a true point that sinning without knowledge is just as evil. aside from any context, it just isn't true. Sin without knowledge (like children and disabled are perfect examples) is not a sin, it falls to some sort of transgression or infirmity and Jesus covers those. Also it is true that you cannot be saved without knowledge. So, again the story is not black-and-white as you would claim. Cannot sin and cannot be saved in ignorance, either way. Better proof read your statements a bit more carefully from here on out.
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This article looks pretty legit. Crazy to think they've opened the door to legally killing people if they are suffering. Question is, who defines what amount of suffering is appropriate?
New Zealand okays euthanasia for COVID patients
https://catholicherald.co.uk/new-zealan ... zxo5Nj1BEs
"Patients admitted to hospital with COVID-19 can die by euthanasia if doctors decide they might not survive, the New Zealand government has declared.
The Ministry of Health confirmed that a right to a lethal injection under a new euthanasia law could extend to patients who were either dying from the coronavirus or suffering unbearably from its consequences.
In response to a request for clarity on a euthanasia law which came into force last month, the government declared that “in some circumstances a person with COVID-19 may be eligible for assisted dying”.
The admission that COVID patients were eligible for a lethal jab came after Henoch Kloosterboer, editor of the anti-euthanasia The Defender website, made a request under the Official Information Act – the New Zealand equivalent to the 2000 Freedom of Information Act.
He said the policy left “the door wide open for abuse” of elderly and vulnerable patients – especially if the country’s health service came under pressure from a COVID surge.
He said: “It would not be hard to envisage a situation in which a speedy and sizeable rise in COVID-19 hospitalisations could result in pressure to utilise euthanasia and assisted suicide as tools to resolve such a serious crisis.”
The euthanasia law, he added, “has now made the COVID-19 pandemic potentially even more dangerous for the people of Aotearoa New Zealand”.
New Zealand okays euthanasia for COVID patients
https://catholicherald.co.uk/new-zealan ... zxo5Nj1BEs
"Patients admitted to hospital with COVID-19 can die by euthanasia if doctors decide they might not survive, the New Zealand government has declared.
The Ministry of Health confirmed that a right to a lethal injection under a new euthanasia law could extend to patients who were either dying from the coronavirus or suffering unbearably from its consequences.
In response to a request for clarity on a euthanasia law which came into force last month, the government declared that “in some circumstances a person with COVID-19 may be eligible for assisted dying”.
The admission that COVID patients were eligible for a lethal jab came after Henoch Kloosterboer, editor of the anti-euthanasia The Defender website, made a request under the Official Information Act – the New Zealand equivalent to the 2000 Freedom of Information Act.
He said the policy left “the door wide open for abuse” of elderly and vulnerable patients – especially if the country’s health service came under pressure from a COVID surge.
He said: “It would not be hard to envisage a situation in which a speedy and sizeable rise in COVID-19 hospitalisations could result in pressure to utilise euthanasia and assisted suicide as tools to resolve such a serious crisis.”
The euthanasia law, he added, “has now made the COVID-19 pandemic potentially even more dangerous for the people of Aotearoa New Zealand”.
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It could have been worse for him... He could have been unjabbed...TrueFaith wrote: ↑December 27th, 2021, 12:22 pm NY Times Editor dead day after taking booster.
Only one day earlier, Carlos boasted on Instagram that he’d just received a Moderna booster, jesting he filled out a form he couldn’t understand and was now a member of a K-pop fan club.
“Hey Omicron: Hit me with your wet snot,” he jokingly dared.
Back in January, Tejada opined about having the “privilege” to access vaccines “like the J&J jab Nora and I got just this morning.”
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https://www.infowars.com/posts/ny-times ... oster-jab/

