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Pazooka wrote: December 14th, 2020, 3:19 pm You have to make an appointment to use the public library now. You check in and out. They disinfect at regular intervals. I overheard an employee assuring an elderly person that it’s the same disinfectant they use in hospitals.
Seriously, if they're trying to disinfect the world, people will get sick and/or die because of exposure to dirt or any old bacteria floating in the wind. What's an immune system?

Pretty soon, they'll lock you in your house because, well, it's too dangerous outside, but also dangerous inside...their world-views are colliding.
Just like schools, um, indoctrination centers...they want kids back in them for more brain-washing, but we can't because...C-19...ahhhh, more world-views colliding.

Is it worse on Monday's or Tuesday's, because you don't get the 'rona on a weekend, or do I just have the Flu or a cold, oh...that's right, ''rona ended flu - got it! Flu, 'rona, pneumonia - it's all the same, according to CDC stats since late summer.

Fraudci said no masks, then masks, then schools, then no schools, then schools again. Then it was, "Asymptomatic spread never drives a pandemic", and is rare, then...super spreader events are dangerous...and kids are spreading to parents, but riots and blue-state election celebrations, A-OKAY!

Redfield said mask are better than the vaccine, but everyone get the vaccine...because, well you don't hate grandma, do you? Oh, vaccines needs more testing? Well, just give it to old people in care centers...ooops, I mean they need the most protections. Oh, and mask and lockdowns work, then they don't...let's lock everyone down again since they worked so well the last twenty times. If masks work, why the lockdown? If lockdowns work, why do they have to keep enacting them? I'm so confused!

Sweden is great, but now they're evil because they don't lock down their citizens. Libs hate Walmart...ya know, buy local and all that...oh no, only Walmart and big box stores are "essential"? Crap, open my small biz, but don't because...mandates...wait, wut? The world is a confusing place when its based on who's paying, who's president/governor/mayor or whose agenda is most important...this week.

What a world, what a world! :roll:

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ATB wrote: December 14th, 2020, 4:05 pm
Pazooka wrote: December 14th, 2020, 3:19 pm You have to make an appointment to use the public library now. You check in and out. They disinfect at regular intervals. I overheard an employee assuring an elderly person that it’s the same disinfectant they use in hospitals.
Seriously, if they're trying to disinfect the world, people will get sick and/or die because of exposure to dirt or any old bacteria floating in the wind. What's an immune system?

Pretty soon, they'll lock you in your house because, well, it's too dangerous outside, but also dangerous inside...their world-views are colliding.
Just like schools, um, indoctrination centers...they want kids back in them for more brain-washing, but we can't because...C-19...ahhhh, more world-views colliding.

Is it worse on Monday's or Tuesday's, because you don't get the 'rona on a weekend, or do I just have the Flu or a cold, oh...that's right, ''rona ended flu - got it! Flu, 'rona, pneumonia - it's all the same, according to CDC stats since late summer.

Fraudci said no masks, then masks, then schools, then no schools, then schools again. Then it was, "Asymptomatic spread never drives a pandemic", and is rare, then...super spreader events are dangerous...and kids are spreading to parents, but riots and blue-state election celebrations, A-OKAY!

Redfield said mask are better than the vaccine, but everyone get the vaccine...because, well you don't hate grandma, do you? Oh, vaccines needs more testing? Well, just give it to old people in care centers...ooops, I mean they need the most protections. Oh, and mask and lockdowns work, then they don't...let's lock everyone down again since they worked so well the last twenty times. If masks work, why the lockdown? If lockdowns work, why do they have to keep enacting them? I'm so confused!

Sweden is great, but now they're evil because they don't lock down their citizens. Libs hate Walmart...ya know, buy local and all that...oh no, only Walmart and big box stores are "essential"? Crap, open my small biz, but don't because...mandates...wait, wut? The world is a confusing place when its based on who's paying, who's president/governor/mayor or whose agenda is most important...this week.

What a world, what a world! :roll:
And don't forget - even though study after study after study has proven masks don't work to prevent viruses from spreading - our Dear Leaders now condemn all who don't wear them as not loving their fellowman and of not being Christlike.

#virtuesignalmuch

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EmmaLee wrote: December 14th, 2020, 5:29 pm
ATB wrote: December 14th, 2020, 4:05 pm
Pazooka wrote: December 14th, 2020, 3:19 pm You have to make an appointment to use the public library now. You check in and out. They disinfect at regular intervals. I overheard an employee assuring an elderly person that it’s the same disinfectant they use in hospitals.
Seriously, if they're trying to disinfect the world, people will get sick and/or die because of exposure to dirt or any old bacteria floating in the wind. What's an immune system?

Pretty soon, they'll lock you in your house because, well, it's too dangerous outside, but also dangerous inside...their world-views are colliding.
Just like schools, um, indoctrination centers...they want kids back in them for more brain-washing, but we can't because...C-19...ahhhh, more world-views colliding.

Is it worse on Monday's or Tuesday's, because you don't get the 'rona on a weekend, or do I just have the Flu or a cold, oh...that's right, ''rona ended flu - got it! Flu, 'rona, pneumonia - it's all the same, according to CDC stats since late summer.

Fraudci said no masks, then masks, then schools, then no schools, then schools again. Then it was, "Asymptomatic spread never drives a pandemic", and is rare, then...super spreader events are dangerous...and kids are spreading to parents, but riots and blue-state election celebrations, A-OKAY!

Redfield said mask are better than the vaccine, but everyone get the vaccine...because, well you don't hate grandma, do you? Oh, vaccines needs more testing? Well, just give it to old people in care centers...ooops, I mean they need the most protections. Oh, and mask and lockdowns work, then they don't...let's lock everyone down again since they worked so well the last twenty times. If masks work, why the lockdown? If lockdowns work, why do they have to keep enacting them? I'm so confused!

Sweden is great, but now they're evil because they don't lock down their citizens. Libs hate Walmart...ya know, buy local and all that...oh no, only Walmart and big box stores are "essential"? Crap, open my small biz, but don't because...mandates...wait, wut? The world is a confusing place when its based on who's paying, who's president/governor/mayor or whose agenda is most important...this week.

What a world, what a world! :roll:
And don't forget - even though study after study after study has proven masks don't work to prevent viruses from spreading - our Dear Leaders now condemn all who don't wear them as not loving their fellowman and of not being Christlike.

#virtuesignalmuch
Altho I did notice on a cold windy day last week.... they kept my face a bit warmer.... ;-)

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JK4Woods wrote: December 14th, 2020, 5:47 pm
EmmaLee wrote: December 14th, 2020, 5:29 pm And don't forget - even though study after study after study has proven masks don't work to prevent viruses from spreading - our Dear Leaders now condemn all who don't wear them as not loving their fellowman and of not being Christlike.

#virtuesignalmuch
Altho I did notice on a cold windy day last week.... they kept my face a bit warmer.... ;-)
The wind chill ("feels like" temp) outside my house right now is 16 degrees F. So I understand the sentiment, but I'd rather my face freeze off than wear a face diaper.

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EmmaLee wrote: December 14th, 2020, 5:50 pm
JK4Woods wrote: December 14th, 2020, 5:47 pm
EmmaLee wrote: December 14th, 2020, 5:29 pm And don't forget - even though study after study after study has proven masks don't work to prevent viruses from spreading - our Dear Leaders now condemn all who don't wear them as not loving their fellowman and of not being Christlike.

#virtuesignalmuch
Altho I did notice on a cold windy day last week.... they kept my face a bit warmer.... ;-)
The wind chill ("feels like" temp) outside my house right now is 16 degrees F. So I understand the sentiment, but I'd rather my face freeze off than wear a face diaper.
I wonder if wrapping my thick scarf around my face counts...?? :)

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PROBLEM, REACTION, SOLUTION. ALWAY FOLLOW THE (FIAT) MONEY!

https://brighteon.social/system/media_a ... 1607837782

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EmmaLee wrote: December 14th, 2020, 5:29 pm
ATB wrote: December 14th, 2020, 4:05 pm
Pazooka wrote: December 14th, 2020, 3:19 pm You have to make an appointment to use the public library now. You check in and out. They disinfect at regular intervals. I overheard an employee assuring an elderly person that it’s the same disinfectant they use in hospitals.
Seriously, if they're trying to disinfect the world, people will get sick and/or die because of exposure to dirt or any old bacteria floating in the wind. What's an immune system?

Pretty soon, they'll lock you in your house because, well, it's too dangerous outside, but also dangerous inside...their world-views are colliding.
Just like schools, um, indoctrination centers...they want kids back in them for more brain-washing, but we can't because...C-19...ahhhh, more world-views colliding.

Is it worse on Monday's or Tuesday's, because you don't get the 'rona on a weekend, or do I just have the Flu or a cold, oh...that's right, ''rona ended flu - got it! Flu, 'rona, pneumonia - it's all the same, according to CDC stats since late summer.

Fraudci said no masks, then masks, then schools, then no schools, then schools again. Then it was, "Asymptomatic spread never drives a pandemic", and is rare, then...super spreader events are dangerous...and kids are spreading to parents, but riots and blue-state election celebrations, A-OKAY!

Redfield said mask are better than the vaccine, but everyone get the vaccine...because, well you don't hate grandma, do you? Oh, vaccines needs more testing? Well, just give it to old people in care centers...ooops, I mean they need the most protections. Oh, and mask and lockdowns work, then they don't...let's lock everyone down again since they worked so well the last twenty times. If masks work, why the lockdown? If lockdowns work, why do they have to keep enacting them? I'm so confused!

Sweden is great, but now they're evil because they don't lock down their citizens. Libs hate Walmart...ya know, buy local and all that...oh no, only Walmart and big box stores are "essential"? Crap, open my small biz, but don't because...mandates...wait, wut? The world is a confusing place when its based on who's paying, who's president/governor/mayor or whose agenda is most important...this week.

What a world, what a world! :roll:
And don't forget - even though study after study after study has proven masks don't work to prevent viruses from spreading - our Dear Leaders now condemn all who don't wear them as not loving their fellowman and of not being Christlike.

#virtuesignalmuch
I don't understand it completely and what evidence, if any, they are using. I would hope that they are doing the same things we all do to get answers via the GofTHG and by study and faith. They have access to Keys via the Apostleship I obviously don't have, so I wish they'd explain some the process by which these specific decisions get made and the counsel provided. It's also fascinating to see that some of the twelve have been conspicuously silent on the whole thing and no policy "letters" have been sent. Not a consensus in their councils? Like you, I think we have some honest questions. Maybe it's too much to ask...<shrug>?

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ATB wrote: December 14th, 2020, 6:14 pm
EmmaLee wrote: December 14th, 2020, 5:29 pm And don't forget - even though study after study after study has proven masks don't work to prevent viruses from spreading - our Dear Leaders now condemn all who don't wear them as not loving their fellowman and of not being Christlike.

#virtuesignalmuch
I don't understand it completely and what evidence, if any, they are using. I would hope that they are doing the same things we all do to get answers via the GofTHG and by study and faith. They have access to Keys via the Apostleship I obviously don't have, so I wish they'd explain some the process by which these specific decisions get made and the counsel provided. It's also fascinating to see that some of the twelve have been conspicuously silent on the whole thing and no policy "letters" have been sent. Not a consensus in their councils? Like you, I think we have some honest questions. Maybe it's too much to ask...<shrug>?
Goodness, I would certainly hope not. That's how we've gotten in this mess in the first place - too few members asking too few questions.

And Renlund's video from last week may as well have been a policy letter, as the effect is the same. His statement/the video has been posted THREE times by three different people on our ward FB page in the last week - such is the orgasmic reaction of our unthinking members. They are positively giddy to be able to back up their self-righteous virtue signaling with the words of an apostle who was speaking AS an Apostle. Had the First Presidency not approved of Renlund saying what he did publicly, I guarantee you, he wouldn't have said it.

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Virtue Signaling comes of evil.

PERIOD!

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EmmaLee wrote: December 14th, 2020, 6:29 pm
ATB wrote: December 14th, 2020, 6:14 pm
EmmaLee wrote: December 14th, 2020, 5:29 pm And don't forget - even though study after study after study has proven masks don't work to prevent viruses from spreading - our Dear Leaders now condemn all who don't wear them as not loving their fellowman and of not being Christlike.

#virtuesignalmuch
I don't understand it completely and what evidence, if any, they are using. I would hope that they are doing the same things we all do to get answers via the GofTHG and by study and faith. They have access to Keys via the Apostleship I obviously don't have, so I wish they'd explain some the process by which these specific decisions get made and the counsel provided. It's also fascinating to see that some of the twelve have been conspicuously silent on the whole thing and no policy "letters" have been sent. Not a consensus in their councils? Like you, I think we have some honest questions. Maybe it's too much to ask...<shrug>?
Goodness, I would certainly hope not. That's how we've gotten in this mess in the first place - too few members asking too few questions.

And Renlund's video from last week may as well have been a policy letter, as the effect is the same. His statement/the video has been posted THREE times by three different people on our ward FB page in the last week - such is the orgasmic reaction of our unthinking members. They are positively giddy to be able to back up their self-righteous virtue signaling with the words of an apostle who was speaking AS an Apostle. Had the First Presidency not approved of Renlund saying what he did publicly, I guarantee you, he wouldn't have said it.
It's all I ever do is ask questions, and is the only way I've learned anything. I would seriously like to ask many of the GAs some of these questions we discuss here.

I can't stand FB and never look at it anymore because of people like you're describing...and after 2008, when people crowned Obama, king. Insufferable people...life's too short.

I get it...so many sheeple who, for some reason, can't seem to think or act without some church official approving it. Our Bishop, SP and most, if not all on our HC seem to be fine with how everything is going. One exception, being our EQ pres, who I had a long discussion with about all this and he had the same views with his wife and family not wanting to return to church until they drop the masquerade. It was also the first time I ever met him (we're new in the area), so that was promising.

I feel like I've entered a wormhole and come out on the other side living in the upside down. The so-called virus seems to have laid bare everything...some kind of reverse invisibility cloak.

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At-Home COVID Tests: KSL Investigators Test How Long It Takes To Get Results

BY MATT GEPHARDT & SLOAN SCHRAGE, KSL TV
DECEMBER 14, 2020 AT 10:10 PM

https://ksltv.com/451123/at-home-covid- ... t-results/


OMG!!!!!

Send us your DNA and we’ll report it to the cloud so the corporations that grew up around the banks Thomas Jefferson warned about will know the whereabouts of the bloodlines they intend to exterminate? We’re talking selective eugenics folks!

AND PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY PAYING FOR THE TEST?

I don’t think I would be out of line suggesting the people who are consenting to their execution are the same individuals who have bought into the Virtue Signaling. What’s really scary is you can spot them in a crowd. They are the ones wearing face masks. 100% compliance in my zip code.

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FAUCI: TAKE THE VACCINE, OR WEAR THE SUBMISSION MUZZLE FOREVER
Mac Slavo
December 13th, 2020

Dr. Anthony Fauci has now said that unless Americans are willing to take the rushed coronavirus vaccine with “significant” side effects, they will be wearing the submission muzzle forever. Even if enough submit to the vaccine, Fauci wants us masked for at least 6 more months.
The masks will never go away until people wake up to what they really are: a symbol of submission to the controllers. Fauci declared that face masks are here to stay unless enough Americans get the coronavirus vaccination, and even then it will take at least six months before the masks can be left behind, according to a report by ZeroHedge.

Speaking to Chris Cuomo, Fauci was asked if the masks could come off, to which he replied “Well, the answer is not unless you get the overwhelming majority of the country vaccinated and protected and get that umbrella of what we call herd immunity.”

https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/ ... le-forever


IN FAUCI WE TRUST?
https://infauciwetrust.com

Scheeze! This guy is flopping around like a fish out of water!

No doubt his image will be on the new digital FED coin connected to the cloud by a 5G android device of your choosing. And heck, they will probably pay you $1,500 monetary units of No Thing towards your purchase upon proof of purchase of the shot.

What could possible go wrong?

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Herd immunity is probably not that far away without vaccinations....how many people have had covid and didn't even know it......i'd say it's at least ten people who didn't test that had covid for every one person tested positive.....the testing is only a small detector of what has really happened....how much longer can they keep this going? Even the libs around me are getting very tired of it all......The average Joe is gonna revolt soon.....lol

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“The timid civilized world has found nothing with which to oppose the onslaught of a sudden revival of barefaced barbarity, other than concessions and smiles.”

~ Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn

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"There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution." (Aldous Huxley, Tavistock Group, California Medical School, 1961)

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Good find.

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"There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution." (Aldous Huxley, Tavistock Group, California Medical School, 1961)
Who knew a Satanist would be so prophetic...

Describes The Great Reset very well.

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The COVID vaccine and the commercial conquest of the planet: The Plan

by Jon Rappoport

For the past 30 years, I’ve written about the dangers and ineffectiveness of vaccines, including the new COVID vaccine.

I’ve written about cutting edge nanotechnology research and its use, in vaccines, as implanted sensors, which would surveil body and brain processes in real time, and also send instructions to the body and brain.

I’ve written about the absurdity of basic vaccine theory; the unproven notion that the body needs a “rehearsal,” in order to prepare for the “real disease.”

I’ve written about how vaccines, in suppressing the immune system and its full inflammatory response, also suppress the outward signs of diseases, thus presenting a false picture of conquest of those diseases---when in fact the overall health and vitality of the body are reduced.

I’ve written about how criminal word games are played. For example, vaccines causing brain damage in children are shunted into a category called “autism”; and then, researchers claim autism is a separate disease with a genetic cause.

I’ve written about the destructive effects of a hundred years of wall-to-wall promotion of the one-disease-one-germ lie.

I’ve written about DNA vaccines permanently altering the genetic makeup of the recipients.

I’ve written about vaccines used to cause miscarriages in women when they later become pregnant.

But this article is about something else.

It’s about the dawn of a new pharmaceutical era, which was born the moment the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID vaccine was approved.

This marks the first time RNA technology deployed in a drug or vaccine has been dragged across the finish line and conditionally certified as safe and effective---which it is not.

But no matter. Bill Gates and other elite planners and money titans have won what for them is a great victory.

Because RNA vaccines are much faster, easier, and cheaper to produce than traditional vaccines.

Instead of years in the making, they can be developed in months.

And this means…bonanza.


Whole lists of so-called diseases---West Nile, Bird Flu, Zika, Swine Flu, SARS---can now be brought to soaring profits by making RNA vaccines to “prevent them.”

And not only that, a whole parade of older vaccines---hepatitis, measles, seasonal flu, diphtheria, whooping cough, tetanus, etc., can be recast with brand new updated RNA versions.

Researchers can pretend to discover a whole slew of “new viruses” that require RNA vaccines jammed into the marketplace in record time.

Don’t forget the domesticated animal market; RNA vaccines for every conceivable invented purpose sold to big corporations that operate cattle, pig, chicken, and fish “factories.”

We’re talking about trillions and trillions of dollars. More dollars than Amazon dreams of.

This is why the Pfizer RNA COVID vaccine is first in line, and why the Moderna RNA vaccine is next.

Quick, easy, and cheap RNA technology will mean endless numbers of new vaccines. And therefore, a day will come when every person routinely takes a DNA test to establish a profile, and every profile will be fitted to customized sets of vaccines.

In the same way that cosmetics are designed for every shade of skin tone, vaccines will be designed for every DNA profile.

The whole apparatus will be a highly dangerous and ineffective hoax, but what else is new? Vaccines have been a hoax since the beginning. We’re talking about MONEY.

So much money, pharmaceutical companies will be bankrolled directly by governments, after a currency reset makes new money invented out of thin air replace the old “thin air money.” Patients will receive all these vaccines “for free.” Governments will pay the vaccines companies.

UNLESS THESE LUNATICS ARE STOPPED.

Unless the people rebel and refuse the vaccines---no matter what.

If you think the futuristic vaccine-world I’m describing could only be a fantasy, what would masks, distancing, lockdowns, and planetary destruction of national economies have been called 15 years ago? [Or how about just 10 MONTHS ago]

Think of past vaccines as giant clunky IBM computers sitting in empty rooms…and future vaccines as cell phones carried by billions of people.

Because RNA technology opened the door to faster, easier, and cheaper production.

What remains the same---past, present, and future---is FREEDOM.

The natural right to say NO. And mean it, come hell or high water.

CODA: What could be more awkward and foolish than the Pfizer regimen for their COVID vaccine? A first shot followed by a later booster.

I don’t care how many apps and reminders are built into this system. The fall-off from the first shot to the second will be enormous. People will opt out, after they experience severe adverse effects from the initial injection. They’ll forget to show up according to the prescribed schedule.

As I’ve detailed, the Pfizer and Moderna clinical trials of their vaccines were only designed to prevent mild illness---a cough, or chills and fever. Not serious illness. Not hospitalization. Not death. And cough, chills, and fever cure themselves. No need for a vaccine.

But none of this makes any difference to the vaccine kings. They and their public health colleagues can easily rig COVID case numbers in a downward direction---and then claim the success of the vaccine is the reason and the cause.

No, commercially speaking, the point of gaining approval of the vaccine was planting the flag of RNA technology in the marketplace.

This is the equivalent of building the first railroad tracks, digging the first big canals, flying the first air freight carriers.

New markets, new products, new customers, new money.

Marry these with a vast weakening of human vitality and a strengthening of control over populations, through vaccination, and you have the fascist Holy Grail.

Resistance and revolt are not luxuries.

They’re necessities of life.

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This is the way.
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and in other news...
"Just because you get vaccinated after the second dose does not mean you should be traveling. ... You could still get infected and pass it along to others."
@VinGuptaMD (TVDoc™)
You can't pass along what you don't have...herd immunity much?
"Everything still applies until all of us gets that two-dose regimen. We don't think that'll happen til June or July."
@VinGuptaMD (TVDoc™)
Two-dose, leads to four-dose, which leads to...what happened to your face?
"Right now, we still don't have definitive proof that vaccination protects you from any type of infection, just the severe forms of illness that lead you to the ICU."
@VinGuptaMD (TVDoc™)
So why are we beta-testing this on humans?

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Gotta get me one of those t-shirts! ^ :lol:

See article for graphs, charts, and the tweets referred to - https://thenewamerican.com/300000-u-s-c ... fc7fadfbd4

300,000 U.S. COVID Deaths? Not Even CLOSE

December 15, 2020

With the way COVID-19 deaths are recorded, many may wonder if they were calculated with a Dominion voting machine and if the disease’s name is “Biden.” After all, other causes of death appear to have a funny way of ending up in the coronavirus column.

The disease that really seems to be losing “votes” to the China virus is the flu, and now even more evidence to this effect has emerged. As commentator Andrea Widburg writes:

We keep being told that Americans are dying like flies, far in excess of their normal numbers. I accept that there are excess deaths. I’m sure that the virus increased our annual death rate in spring, when many elderly people died in the first wave after Democrat governors trapped them in retirement homes and then sent in infected people. I’m also sure that more Americans are dying from cancer, heart disease, depression, suicide, murder, and spousal abuse thanks to the cruelty of the lockdowns.

What offsets all this is that fewer Americans are dying from the flu. That’s either because masks help prevent the flu (although we’re told our mask use is all wrong for stopping the virus) or because a lot of the deaths marked as Wuhan virus deaths are in fact flu deaths.

The mask theory doesn’t seem tenable, and this isn’t just because data indicate that masks, at best, offer marginal protection. It’s also that if the China virus is “spiking” despite mask use, why should we think the flu wouldn’t also be experiencing its regular fall increase?

Of course, one could make the case that because SARS-CoV-2 is more contagious, its spread would be even greater were it not for mask use and that the latter has suppressed it and the flu. But among the reasons to question this theory are the following data, found by way of Widburg:

As Widburg points out, while the 2020 mortality data aren’t complete, it’s unlikely the number will eclipse recent years’ just based on adding in December figures. (Moreover, if people really are concerned about deaths, isn’t the real story here the steady mortality increase since 2012?)

Also, despite media claims to the contrary, hospitals aren’t on average overburdened. In fact, as “fears persist of overwhelmed medical systems and at-capacity hospitals nationwide, data indicate that ample hospital space remains available for both COVID-19 patients and other medical needs, with one official at a major hospital network stating that the country is ‘managing pretty well’ the latest surge of COVID-19,” reports Just the News.

The above is true even if there are a few strained hot-spot urban hospitals. Note, too, that temporary hospitals established early in the pandemic largely went unused and had to be dismantled.

Widburg also states that fear of overwhelmed hospitals perhaps originated with video from Italy. Yet that nation has socialized medicine, which — in accordance with the economic principle that price caps lead to shortages — is notorious for suffering a lack of resources.

But perhaps most striking, and actual news, is the following Twitter thread Widburg presents from a long-time pharmacist talking about a suspicious flu-related phenomenon:

[See link at top of post for the thread being discussed - it is quite fascinating.]

Though eye-brow raising, Staub’s input could be dismissed as anomalous anecdote — were it not for that it simply affirms long-made claims from other sources. Most strikingly, the CDC reported in November that 88,280 China-virus-labeled deaths were actually caused by the flu or pneumonia, according to One America News (OAN; video below).

OAN also reported that the CDC tells us that 51,000 China-virus-labeled deaths were actually caused by heart attacks. In fairness, some observers claim that COVID can induce heart attacks in certain individuals, which underlines the reality that people with comorbidities (e.g., heart disease) are most vulnerable; note that the CDC reported this summer that 94 percent of China virus “victims” had an average of 2.6 comorbidities. The vast majority of the population, however, has a SARS-CoV-2 survival rate in excess of 99.5 percent.

Someone else who questioned the China virus numbers, early on, was radio giant Michael Savage, a trained epidemiologist and author of close to 20 health and nutrition books. In the spring, he analyzed comprehensive April 6 disease data and noted that while COVID deaths were rising, flu-related deaths had supposedly dropped almost to zero. For all intents and purposes, this is a statistical impossibility.

Then there was the conversation I had with a security guard at a local hospital while waiting for a loved one receiving medical care. We were discussing how the China virus was affecting his institution and, after expressing some realities, he casually said, “And, of course, they’re lumping in all the flu cases with COVID.”

After I related this on Twitter, a naysayer mocked the man’s security guard status. But note that not only wasn’t he a very political person, he also no doubt talks to doctors and nurses just as he spoke to me — and hears them talk, too. So he’s perhaps as good a source as any.

Yet, again, none of this is revelatory. As the liberal Hill reported in early September, “According to Daniel Spitz, chief medical examiner in Macomb County, Michigan, ‘I think a lot of clinicians are putting that condition [COVID-19] on death certificates when it might not be accurate because they died with coronavirus and not of coronavirus.’” Other medical experts have informed likewise.

We may also note that none of this is surprising if, as reported, hospitals are receiving more money for treating China virus patients. For if “you subsidize something, you get more of it,” the economic principle goes.

In fact, Stanford epidemiologist John Ioannidis, claiming in late winter that the COVID lockdowns were based on “bad data,” even stated that if we didn’t know a new virus existed, we might just “have casually noted that flu this season seems to be a bit worse than average.”

So since approximately 177,000 Americans died during the 2017-2018 flu season, we should be happy we know the new virus exists — because now the flu season is a lot better than average!

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The 2020 Worldwide Corona Crisis: Destroying Civil Society, Engineered Economic Depression, Global Coup d’État and the “Great Reset”
Global Research E-Book, Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG)
By Prof Michel Chossudovsky
Global Research, December 15, 2020

Mouse No 1: “Are You Going to get Vaccinated”,
Mouse No. 2: Are You Crazy, They Haven’t finished the Tests on Humans”


https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-2020- ... et/5730652

Chapter I
Introduction
Destroying Civil Society. The Fear Campaign
“It is time for everyone to come out of this negative trance, this collective hysteria, because famine, poverty, mass unemployment will kill and destroy the lives of many more people than SARS-CoV-2! ” (Dr. Pascal Sacré)

“I’m seeing patients that have facial rashes, fungal infections, bacterial infections. … In February and March we were told not to wear masks. What changed? The science didn’t change. The politics did. This is about compliance. It’s not about science… (Dr. James Meehan)

“Once the Lie Becomes the Truth, there is No Moving Backwards. Insanity prevails. The world is turned upside down.” (Michel Chossudovsky)

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Amanda Vollmer explains the facts and fiction behind the V word

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Toto wrote: December 15th, 2020, 8:08 pm The 2020 Worldwide Corona Crisis: Destroying Civil Society, Engineered Economic Depression, Global Coup d’État and the “Great Reset”
Global Research E-Book, Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG)
By Prof Michel Chossudovsky
Global Research, December 15, 2020

Mouse No 1: “Are You Going to get Vaccinated”,
Mouse No. 2: Are You Crazy, They Haven’t finished the Tests on Humans”


https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-2020- ... et/5730652

Chapter I
Introduction
Destroying Civil Society. The Fear Campaign
“It is time for everyone to come out of this negative trance, this collective hysteria, because famine, poverty, mass unemployment will kill and destroy the lives of many more people than SARS-CoV-2! ” (Dr. Pascal Sacré)

“I’m seeing patients that have facial rashes, fungal infections, bacterial infections. … In February and March we were told not to wear masks. What changed? The science didn’t change. The politics did. This is about compliance. It’s not about science… (Dr. James Meehan)

“Once the Lie Becomes the Truth, there is No Moving Backwards. Insanity prevails. The world is turned upside down.” (Michel Chossudovsky)
Ya this way scarier than watching my husband sit in his easy chair watching TV occasionally sniffling, coughing and complaining of a slight head ache and congestion for the five days during the dreaded covid 19 disease process....oh ya he was sitting closer to the wood stove than usual...so he was a bit chillier than usual.....people awake to our awful situation......OMG.....

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