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My son was showing some verses in Revelations about the size of the New Jerusalem. He said it would cover about one-third of the US, and I couldn't believe it would be that large. He showed me Revelations 21, particularly verses 15-17, where the city is square and each side is 12,000 furlongs. Using the explanatory note at the bottom of the page and doing some calculations, each side is nearly 1380 miles. Reading back up at verse 10 it appears this is the city of Enoch that will descend.

Has anyone done research on this? This is the first time I've seen at actual measurement for how big the city will be. I'm assuming those measurements are just for the city of Enoch, which will be part of the New Jerusalem, so the total size would be much larger. I don't remember ever reading anything by a general authority about the size of the city, etc. Anyone else have any thoughts?

Actually:12,000 x 12,000 x 12,000. A cube?

The part that fascinates me is that it is as tall as it is wide. That's something I can't imagine.

Found this interesting commentary: http://www.heraldmag.org/2006/06ja_9.htm, and http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan ... ramid.html, and http://www.ambcakron.com/Bible-Studies/ ... Rev21b.PDF

Note where it says that the size of the New Jerusalem correlates with the size of the earth... kinda cool.

On the opposite end... Babylon was pretty impressive for it's time... http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bd/b/4, "According to Herodotus the walls were 56 miles in circumference, 335 ft. high, and 85 ft. wide." That's an amazing feat for the time, but the NJ will make Babylon look like a dirty diaper.

Nice, thx for the references.

ktg wrote:The part that fascinates me is that it is as tall as it is wide. That's something I can't imagine.

A tantalizing hint is that in "Dark Mission" by Richard Hoagland, he examines the photographs taken on the moon by Apollo astronauts and postulates they're hiding the remnants of a crystal city structure up there shaped like a cube. I was once told Joseph F. Smith once said people had lived on the moon, so who knows? Maybe a cube is a special pattern for a terrestrial city structure.

gruden wrote:

ktg wrote:The part that fascinates me is that it is as tall as it is wide. That's something I can't imagine.

A tantalizing hint is that in "Dark Mission" by Richard Hoagland, he examines the photographs taken on the moon by Apollo astronauts and postulates they're hiding the remnants of a crystal city structure up there shaped like a cube. I was once told Joseph F. Smith once said people had lived on the moon, so who knows? Maybe a cube is a special pattern for a terrestrial city structure.

That reminds me, one of the things I read about New Jerusalem is that the dimensions make it about 1/2 the size of the moon.

I was once told Joseph F. Smith once said people had lived on the moon, so who knows? Maybe a cube is a special pattern for a terrestrial city structure.

He also said if man ever made it to the moon the end of the world would immenent, and a few other comments that make one raise their brows. I believe he said that is a "man" and not a "prophet."

In the scope of time, a man on the moon has been pretty recent, and the end being eminent.. end of something for sure.

minuet1 wrote:

I was once told Joseph F. Smith once said people had lived on the moon, so who knows? Maybe a cube is a special pattern for a terrestrial city structure.

He also said if man ever made it to the moon the end of the world would immenent, and a few other comments that make one raise their brows. I believe he said that is a "man" and not a "prophet."

Hasn't God always said these things will happen 'soon' and that always seems to mean years (quite a few of them)?

In larger terms, the lifespan of a human isn't much. I was 1 years old when Apollo landed on the moon. If the end of the world happens in my lifetime, in spiritual terms that's a very short period of time.

It's the Borg. Resistance is futile. You will all be assimilated.

2BFree wrote:It's the Borg. Resistance is futile. You will all be assimilated.

LOL

I seriously doubt it will be a couple hundred miles into the earth's atmosphere, but then again, it could be partly underground. The earth goes down 4000 miles to the "core". Seeing how the lost tribes will be some of the first builders and inhabitants, it will probably take some of their advanced technology from their current homes, which I think is subterranean.