LDS Freedom Forum

"Rainbow Day at BYU draws hundreds of students

It was the third Rainbow Day celebration at Brigham Young University to support the LGBTQ community — and this time, unlike the few before, hundreds of students showed up.

They filled the campus quad with rainbow flags and signs. They shouted, “Love is love,” at anyone who walked up to their table. And they hugged and kissed and high-fived in excitement.

It’s the first time many have felt like they could.

“All of us who are out can now be free to be ourselves,” said student Erin Berglund, who identifies as lesbian. “It’s a relief.”
"
https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2 ... el-7357119



--- snip ---

But BYU responded to the incident in tweets:
"We are aware of reports that stickers and posters promoting a white supremacist group were recently found on campus. According to the Anti-Defamation League, this organization is known to use tactics like this on college campuses across the country.

University Police have been informed and are looking into the issue. These stickers and posters are not authorized, and in accordance with university policy, they will be removed if they are placed on campus.

"BYU stands firmly against racism in any form and is committed to promoting a culture of safety, kindness, respect and love. We stand with our sponsoring institution, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which has stated:"

“White supremacist attitudes are morally wrong and sinful, and we condemn them. Church members who promote or pursue a ‘white culture’ or white supremacy agenda are not in harmony with the teachings of the Church.”

If you witness or experience an incident on campus associated with white supremacy, reports can be made to the Dean of Students Office at (801) 422-2731. In situations where safety is at risk, please contact University Police immediately at (801) 422-2222."

https://twitter.com/BYU/status/1199740741578186752

Wait, I just realized I may have gotten these two events mixed up.

Trucker wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 3:11 am "Church members who promote or pursue a ‘white culture’... are not in harmony with the teachings of the Church."

i get the church discouraging "white supremacy", but this quote seriously disgusts me. imagine the church calling out another ethnic group for seeking to preserve their culture against strong forces seeking to eradicate it.

really, i hope the fool who concocted this statement stubs his toe, and all those who approved such white-hating statements.

LGBT Loons, Modern Mormon Morons wrote: "Rainbow Day at BYU draws hundreds of students

It was the third Rainbow Day celebration at Brigham Young University to support the LGBTQ community — and this time, unlike the few before, hundreds of students showed up.

They filled the campus quad with rainbow flags and signs. They shouted, “Love is love,” at anyone who walked up to their table. And they hugged and kissed and high-fived in excitement.

It’s the first time many have felt like they could.

“All of us who are out can now be free to be ourselves,” said student Erin Berglund, who identifies as lesbian. “It’s a relief.”

what a beautiful event. so stunning & brave of the students. love is wonderful.

Some of the tweets say “white is not a culture”. If that is true , the same can be said about “black” culture.

ori wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 6:53 am Some of the tweets say “white is not a culture”. If that is true , the same can be said about “black” culture.

Be careful, some LDS lady made this comment on twitter a couple of years back, got blasted banned from twitter, she was doxxed by LDS people, ended up having a Church newsroom release tailored to her.

I know it's hard to accept, but the Church is "woke". Anything that is white is bad, anything that is straight is bad. The Church has gone left. Sad but true.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/chu ... s?lang=eng
-------------
“It has been called to our attention that there are some among the various pro-white and white supremacy communities who assert that the Church is neutral toward or in support of their views. Nothing could be further from the truth. In the New Testament, Jesus said: ‘Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself’ (Matthew 22:37–39). The Book of Mormon teaches ‘all are alike unto God’” (2 Nephi 26:33).

“White supremacist attitudes are morally wrong and sinful, and we condemn them. Church members who promote or pursue a ‘white culture’ or white supremacy agenda are not in harmony with the teachings of the Church.”
----------

johnBob wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 7:30 am https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/chu ... s?lang=eng
-------------
“It has been called to our attention that there are some among the various pro-white and white supremacy communities who assert that the Church is neutral toward or in support of their views. Nothing could be further from the truth. In the New Testament, Jesus said: ‘Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself’ (Matthew 22:37–39). The Book of Mormon teaches ‘all are alike unto God’” (2 Nephi 26:33).

“White supremacist attitudes are morally wrong and sinful, and we condemn them. Church members who promote or pursue a ‘white culture’ or white supremacy agenda are not in harmony with the teachings of the Church.”
----------

This is the same justification being used by the pro-LGBTQ members. All are alike unto God, God loves everyone equally, and speaking out about homosexuality is morally wrong, sinful, hateful, bigoted and homophobic.

Truly, we have seen doctrine turned upside-down, where evil is good, and good is evil.

Why doesn’t BYU celebrate traditional marriage and being straight then?

Part of why these things gain attraction is because there is no opposition.
Why have a celebration for straight people? Or traditional family? Because it’s been the norm for so long. Well, maybe it’s time to stand up?

If gays can have a celebration then straights can too. They should. It would be a much larger force.

I think traditional folks need to get more creative and stop sitting back watching unable to get over the fact that they have opposition.

MMbelieve wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:15 am Why doesn’t BYU celebrate traditional marriage and being straight then?

Part of why these things gain attraction is because there is no opposition.
Why have a celebration for straight people? Or traditional family? Because it’s been the norm for so long. Well, maybe it’s time to stand up?

If gays can have a celebration then straights can too. They should. It would be a much larger force.

I think traditional folks need to get more creative and stop sitting back watching unable to get over the fact that they have opposition.

ROFLOL. A day late and a dollar short. I'm not sure you really understand where we are at in this culture. I'm not making fun of you, but you are about 4 years too late. I dare you to organize a celebration for straight people and the traditional family. Watch the hate fly in. Last year a few people tried to organize a straight parade. They were called white supremacist, bigots, haters, homophobes, etc. You will be fired from your job for participating (or your husband will be), you will become a parahia if you are known in real life. You will be banned from facebook groups, called an evil, horrible person.

I really am glad to see people waking up to what has happened, I really am. I just wish you'd be apart of the hard-core fight 4-5 years ago. Instead, too many people were worrying about "equality" or some other dumb stuff.

At this point, I'm telling you the war is lost; 4-5 years ago maybe not. At this point, yeah the war is lost. I just hope God somehow preserves a remnant and I'm part of it.
----------
"I think traditional folks need to get more creative and stop sitting back watching unable to get over the fact that they have opposition."
---------
You simply don't understand. The traditional folks no longer exists, they all believe in homosexuality now. They all become converted to homosexuality, the war was being fought 4-5 years ago.

Especially inside the Church! As soon as the Church stated open homosexuals could be fully participating members as long as they didn't "act on it"-that was the time to fight. That was the time to stand up and be counted. Instead everyone gave a bunch of excuses about how it was totally cool and fine. And THIS is the logical, spiritual result from it.

MMbelieve wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:15 am Why doesn’t BYU celebrate traditional marriage and being straight then?

Part of why these things gain attraction is because there is no opposition.
Why have a celebration for straight people? Or traditional family? Because it’s been the norm for so long. Well, maybe it’s time to stand up?

If gays can have a celebration then straights can too. They should. It would be a much larger force.

I think traditional folks need to get more creative and stop sitting back watching unable to get over the fact that they have opposition.

Some BYU students posted copies of the Proclamation on the Family in public areas all over campus, and the janitorial crews were told to take them all down. Similar rainbow-themed signs are left alone unless a student removes them. Janitorial service has not been told to remove rainbow stuff.

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:37 am

MMbelieve wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:15 am Why doesn’t BYU celebrate traditional marriage and being straight then?

Part of why these things gain attraction is because there is no opposition.
Why have a celebration for straight people? Or traditional family? Because it’s been the norm for so long. Well, maybe it’s time to stand up?

If gays can have a celebration then straights can too. They should. It would be a much larger force.

I think traditional folks need to get more creative and stop sitting back watching unable to get over the fact that they have opposition.

Some BYU students posted copies of the Proclamation on the Family in public areas all over campus, and the janitorial crews were told to take them all down. Similar rainbow-themed signs are left alone unless a student removes them. Janitorial service has not been told to remove rainbow stuff.

No surprise here. Since it is at BYU, it will be in wards and stakes REAL soon.

"But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way."

We will find out real soon who is a tare and who is a wheat. Who stands for right no matter what and who stands with the leadership no matter what. Gonna be fun!

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:37 am

MMbelieve wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:15 am Why doesn’t BYU celebrate traditional marriage and being straight then?

Part of why these things gain attraction is because there is no opposition.
Why have a celebration for straight people? Or traditional family? Because it’s been the norm for so long. Well, maybe it’s time to stand up?

If gays can have a celebration then straights can too. They should. It would be a much larger force.

I think traditional folks need to get more creative and stop sitting back watching unable to get over the fact that they have opposition.

Some BYU students posted copies of the Proclamation on the Family in public areas all over campus, and the janitorial crews were told to take them all down. Similar rainbow-themed signs are left alone unless a student removes them. Janitorial service has not been told to remove rainbow stuff.

Do you have a source for this?

Trucker wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:44 am

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:37 am

MMbelieve wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:15 am Why doesn’t BYU celebrate traditional marriage and being straight then?

Part of why these things gain attraction is because there is no opposition.
Why have a celebration for straight people? Or traditional family? Because it’s been the norm for so long. Well, maybe it’s time to stand up?

If gays can have a celebration then straights can too. They should. It would be a much larger force.

I think traditional folks need to get more creative and stop sitting back watching unable to get over the fact that they have opposition.

Some BYU students posted copies of the Proclamation on the Family in public areas all over campus, and the janitorial crews were told to take them all down. Similar rainbow-themed signs are left alone unless a student removes them. Janitorial service has not been told to remove rainbow stuff.

Do you have a source for this?

SaveBYU Twitter feed. Yesterday a young man was reading the Family Proclamation in front of one of the BYU buildings during a break between classes, and he received DEATH threats. Yeah, love is love.

Maybe it's early and I'm just slow this morning?
But what the freak is this article talking about?

cab wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:53 am Maybe it's early and I'm just slow this morning?
But what the freak is this article talking about?

Essentially a Gay Pride rally at BYU, which fortunately for them corresponded closely with the fact that homosexual displays of affection have been removed from the BYU Honor Code.

Trucker wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:55 am

cab wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:53 am Maybe it's early and I'm just slow this morning?
But what the freak is this article talking about?

Essentially a Gay Pride rally at BYU, which fortunately for them corresponded closely with the fact that homosexual displays of affection have been removed from the BYU Honor Code.

Right but then it somehow morphed into some kind of jiberish on white supremacy???

cab wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 10:00 am

Trucker wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:55 am

cab wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:53 am Maybe it's early and I'm just slow this morning?
But what the freak is this article talking about?

Essentially a Gay Pride rally at BYU, which fortunately for them corresponded closely with the fact that homosexual displays of affection have been removed from the BYU Honor Code.

Right but then it somehow morphed into some kind of jiberish on white supremacy???

It was my attempt to show that BYU freaked out and sent out PR messages when they found a flyer on campus they considered to support white supremacy, but when there is a Gay Pride rally, they don't care.

Trucker wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 10:01 am

cab wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 10:00 am

Trucker wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:55 am

cab wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:53 am Maybe it's early and I'm just slow this morning?
But what the freak is this article talking about?

Essentially a Gay Pride rally at BYU, which fortunately for them corresponded closely with the fact that homosexual displays of affection have been removed from the BYU Honor Code.

Right but then it somehow morphed into some kind of jiberish on white supremacy???

It was my attempt to show that BYU freaked out and sent out PR messages when they found a flyer on campus they considered to support white supremacy, but when there is a Gay Pride rally, they don't care.

Ohhh got it... Yep.

At least I can but Diet Coke on campus and that really good graham cracker ice cream.

cab wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 10:04 am

Trucker wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 10:01 am

cab wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 10:00 am

Trucker wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:55 am

Essentially a Gay Pride rally at BYU, which fortunately for them corresponded closely with the fact that homosexual displays of affection have been removed from the BYU Honor Code.

Right but then it somehow morphed into some kind of jiberish on white supremacy???

It was my attempt to show that BYU freaked out and sent out PR messages when they found a flyer on campus they considered to support white supremacy, but when there is a Gay Pride rally, they don't care.

Ohhh got it... Yep.

At least I can but Diet Coke on campus and that really good graham cracker ice cream.

Make sure you're not drinking some green tea while kissing your same-sex significant other.

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 10:09 am

cab wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 10:04 am

Trucker wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 10:01 am

cab wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 10:00 am

Right but then it somehow morphed into some kind of jiberish on white supremacy???

It was my attempt to show that BYU freaked out and sent out PR messages when they found a flyer on campus they considered to support white supremacy, but when there is a Gay Pride rally, they don't care.

Ohhh got it... Yep.

At least I can but Diet Coke on campus and that really good graham cracker ice cream.

Make sure you're not drinking some green tea while kissing your same-sex significant other.

Or my Monster energy drink.

johnBob wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 7:30 am I know it's hard to accept, but the Church is "woke". Anything that is white is bad, anything that is straight is bad. The Church has gone left. Sad but true.


“White supremacist attitudes are morally wrong and sinful, and we condemn them. Church members who promote or pursue a ‘white culture’ or white supremacy agenda are not in harmony with the teachings of the Church.”
----------

Sadly, church leaders have fallen for homosexual mind-control. It is becoming clearer & clearer.

This is the church leaders’ response to BYU “rainbow day”??? One who wasn’t influenced by homosexual lies & manipulative tactics, would not be so biased but would call out wrong behavior on both sides: homosexuality & racism, yet they express such evil bias, as they were manipulated to.

The following are some quotes and admissions of mind control from its homosexual activist authors from 1989 "After the Ball..."

*”Propaganda can be unabashedly subjective and one-sided, there is nothing wrong with this (page 163)”
(Church leaders pointed only to racism, not to the more prominent homosexuality as wrong. Also they ignore their past racism - hypocrisy.)

*”The Homosexual agenda can succeed by “jamming” and “confusing” adversaries, so as to block or counteract the “rewarding of prejudice” (page 153)
(BYU just held an event to celebrate sexual perversion and statistically harmful homosexual disorder... and yet their strange, inappropriate response is to PRETEND that the problem is racism??? Reminds me of Antifa homosexual mob hitting a man with a sign that said “no hate.” Confusing - the epitome of hypocrisy.)



Antifa are anonymous leftist gangs who threaten by violence, anyone who argues against homosexuality, transgender etc.



People who have been subject to cult mentality show 3 major mental disabilities:
1) Blind obedience to leaders
2) Information control (only “church approved” info)
3) Overgiving in money, time, resources and/or power over self/family

This makes them more susceptible to other mental manipulation like that of homosexual propaganda. This may be why some lds - even church leaders - have done such a 180 on the “Family Proclamation to the World.” That, and they want praises of men - to seem “loving” when really it’s CRUEL to support homosexual behavior when it’s known to be harmful.

Thinker wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 10:16 am

johnBob wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 7:30 am I know it's hard to accept, but the Church is "woke". Anything that is white is bad, anything that is straight is bad. The Church has gone left. Sad but true.


“White supremacist attitudes are morally wrong and sinful, and we condemn them. Church members who promote or pursue a ‘white culture’ or white supremacy agenda are not in harmony with the teachings of the Church.”
----------

Sadly, church leaders have fallen for homosexual mind-control. It is becoming clearer & clearer.

This is the church leaders’ response to BYU “rainbow day”??? One who wasn’t influenced by homosexual lies & manipulative tactics, would not be so biased but would call out wrong behavior on both sides: homosexuality & racism, yet they express such evil bias, as they were manipulated to.

The following are some quotes and admissions of mind control from its homosexual activist authors from 1989 "After the Ball..."

*Propaganda can be unabashedly subjective and one-sided, there is nothing wrong with this (page 163); (Church leaders pointed only to racism, not to the more prominent homosexuality as wrong. Also they ignore their past racism - hypocrisy.)

*”The Homosexual agenda can succeed by “jamming” and “confusing” adversaries, so as to block or counteract the “rewarding of prejudice” (page 153); (BYU just held an event to celebrate sexual perversion and statistically harmful homosexual disorder... and yet their strange, inappropriate response is to PRETEND that the problem is racism??? Reminds me of Antifa homosexual mob hitting a man with a sign that said “love not hate.”



Antifa are anonymous leftist gangs who threaten by violence, anyone who argues against homosexuality, transgender etc.

img]https://pics.me.me/weerefightingfascism ... 829808.png[/img]

People who have been subject to cult mentality show 3 major mental disabilities:
1) Blind obedience to leaders
2) Information control (only “church approved” info)
3) Overgiving in money, time, resources and/or power over self/family

This makes them more susceptible to other mental manipulation like that of homosexual propaganda. This may be why some lds - even church leaders - have done such a 180 on the “Family Proclamation to the World.”

To be clear, neither the church nor BYU had any reaction to Rainbow Day. I was adding their reaction to "white supremecist" flyers on campus earlier to point out the fact that they reacted to the flyers, but not to Rainbow Day.

Thinker wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 10:16 am
This makes them more susceptible to other mental manipulation like that of homosexual propaganda. This may be why some lds - even church leaders - have done such a 180 on the “Family Proclamation to the World.” That, and they want praises of men - to seem “loving” when really it’s CRUEL to support homosexual behavior when it’s known to be harmful.

Which church leaders have done a 180 on the Proclamation?

Allison wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 10:23 am

Thinker wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 10:16 am
This makes them more susceptible to other mental manipulation like that of homosexual propaganda. This may be why some lds - even church leaders - have done such a 180 on the “Family Proclamation to the World.” That, and they want praises of men - to seem “loving” when really it’s CRUEL to support homosexual behavior when it’s known to be harmful.

Which church leaders have done a 180 on the Proclamation?

What people DO is a better reflection of what they believe than what they SAY.

johnBob wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:32 am

MMbelieve wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:15 am Why doesn’t BYU celebrate traditional marriage and being straight then?

Part of why these things gain attraction is because there is no opposition.
Why have a celebration for straight people? Or traditional family? Because it’s been the norm for so long. Well, maybe it’s time to stand up?

If gays can have a celebration then straights can too. They should. It would be a much larger force.

I think traditional folks need to get more creative and stop sitting back watching unable to get over the fact that they have opposition.

ROFLOL. A day late and a dollar short. I'm not sure you really understand where we are at in this culture. I'm not making fun of you, but you are about 4 years too late. I dare you to organize a celebration for straight people and the traditional family. Watch the hate fly in. Last year a few people tried to organize a straight parade. They were called white supremacist, bigots, haters, homophobes, etc. You will be fired from your job for participating (or your husband will be), you will become a parahia if you are known in real life. You will be banned from facebook groups, called an evil, horrible person.

I really am glad to see people waking up to what has happened, I really am. I just wish you'd be apart of the hard-core fight 4-5 years ago. Instead, too many people were worrying about "equality" or some other dumb stuff.

At this point, I'm telling you the war is lost; 4-5 years ago maybe not. At this point, yeah the war is lost. I just hope God somehow preserves a remnant and I'm part of it.
----------
"I think traditional folks need to get more creative and stop sitting back watching unable to get over the fact that they have opposition."
---------
You simply don't understand. The traditional folks no longer exists, they all believe in homosexuality now. They all become converted to homosexuality, the war was being fought 4-5 years ago.

Especially inside the Church! As soon as the Church stated open homosexuals could be fully participating members as long as they didn't "act on it"-that was the time to fight. That was the time to stand up and be counted. Instead everyone gave a bunch of excuses about how it was totally cool and fine. And THIS is the logical, spiritual result from it.

I disagree about it being too late. It takes our Living and Merciful Heavenly Father out of the equation. He even blesses those who wake up late.

Of course we should fight and stand for truth and righteousness. Some stalwart Catholics (whose plight is far worse than ours) are leading by example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaSpI4-g1Gg