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nightlight wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:41 am

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:39 am

nightlight wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:38 am

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:35 am

Totally ignorant statement. I've known people who were clearly effeminate and had gay tendencies from the time they were just entering puberty. But yeah, they are just really evil people who choose to sin in a way where historically they get ridiculed, shamed, emancipated by their families, and even physically assaulted until recent decades.

Do you believe gay sex is a sin?

Read the thread. Stop asking me questions I have already answered.

Do you believe in hell?

I believe in not casting my pearls before swine.

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:35 am

Luke wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 5:01 am

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 4:46 am

Robin Hood wrote: ↑February 20th, 2020, 5:05 pm

I have never met a homosexual who is truly happy.
It's a thoroughly miserable existence.

And yet, according to you, they all choose this misery. Makes sense to me.

Yes they do. Stop defending something evil.

Totally ignorant statement. I've known people who were clearly effeminate and had gay tendencies from the time they were just entering puberty. But yeah, they are just really evil people who choose to sin in a way where historically they get ridiculed, shamed, emancipated by their families, and even physically assaulted until recent decades.

That's incredibly judgmental of you to make a blanket claim that because a man might be more sensitive, might talk a little differently, might even dress a little differently, that that man would desire to have sex with his own kind.

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:42 am

nightlight wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:41 am

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:39 am

nightlight wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:38 am

Do you believe gay sex is a sin?

Read the thread. Stop asking me questions I have already answered.

Do you believe in hell?

I believe in not casting my pearls before swine.

Lol love you too, bro

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:35 am

Luke wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 5:01 am

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 4:46 am

Robin Hood wrote: ↑February 20th, 2020, 5:05 pm

I have never met a homosexual who is truly happy.
It's a thoroughly miserable existence.

And yet, according to you, they all choose this misery. Makes sense to me.

Yes they do. Stop defending something evil.

Totally ignorant statement. I've known people who were clearly effeminate and had gay tendencies from the time they were just entering puberty. But yeah, they are just really evil people who choose to sin in a way where historically they get ridiculed, shamed, emancipated by their families, and even physically assaulted until recent decades.

No one has said that a person experiencing sexual attraction to the same gender is inherently evil. We have only said that homosexual relations (sexual gratification with someone of the same gender) is evil.

I know the Gay Agenda totally HATES the idea of love the sinner, hate the sin, but isn't that exactly what Christ does? He loves all of us, but He absolutely hates any sort of sin.

This is why the LDS pro-LGBTQ folks are teaching our youth and children that the Church is wrong about homosexuality. They are teaching that gay sex in good, lovely, divine, holy, and sanctioned by God. What a load of crap.

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:46 am

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:35 am

Luke wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 5:01 am

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 4:46 am

And yet, according to you, they all choose this misery. Makes sense to me.

Yes they do. Stop defending something evil.

Totally ignorant statement. I've known people who were clearly effeminate and had gay tendencies from the time they were just entering puberty. But yeah, they are just really evil people who choose to sin in a way where historically they get ridiculed, shamed, emancipated by their families, and even physically assaulted until recent decades.

No one has said that a person experiencing sexual attraction to the same gender is inherently evil. We have only said that homosexual relations (sexual gratification with someone of the same gender) is evil.

I know the Gay Agenda totally HATES the idea of love the sinner, hate the sin, but isn't that exactly what Christ does? He loves all of us, but He absolutely hates any sort of sin.

This is why the LDS pro-LGBTQ folks are teaching our youth and children that the Church is wrong about homosexuality. They are teaching that gay sex in good, lovely, divine, holy, and sanctioned by God. What a load of crap.

This is a contradiction to what others have stated in this very thread. It was even said that homosexuals should not be allowed to come to Church. I was also told that gay sex is more evil than hetero sex. Sorry, but I have a hard time seeing you sitting in Church next to someone who "struggles with same gender attraction." From what I've read you post over the last several months, you particularly seem to hold any homosexual as total evil and out to ruin your happy way of life.

My point is....

If you die in your sins....ANY sin, you can't inherit the Kingdom of God.

We give too much credence to homosexuality... It's a sin, deny yourself of it and live,or become it and die.

Wide the road.....

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:51 am

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:46 am

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:35 am

Luke wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 5:01 am

Yes they do. Stop defending something evil.

Totally ignorant statement. I've known people who were clearly effeminate and had gay tendencies from the time they were just entering puberty. But yeah, they are just really evil people who choose to sin in a way where historically they get ridiculed, shamed, emancipated by their families, and even physically assaulted until recent decades.

No one has said that a person experiencing sexual attraction to the same gender is inherently evil. We have only said that homosexual relations (sexual gratification with someone of the same gender) is evil.

I know the Gay Agenda totally HATES the idea of love the sinner, hate the sin, but isn't that exactly what Christ does? He loves all of us, but He absolutely hates any sort of sin.

This is why the LDS pro-LGBTQ folks are teaching our youth and children that the Church is wrong about homosexuality. They are teaching that gay sex in good, lovely, divine, holy, and sanctioned by God. What a load of crap.

This is a contradiction to what others have stated in this very thread. It was even said that homosexuals should not be allowed to come to Church. I was also told that gay sex is more evil than hetero sex. Sorry, but I have a hard time seeing you sitting in Church next to someone who "struggles with same gender attraction." From what I've read you post over the last several months, you particularly seem to hold any homosexual as total evil and out to ruin your happy way of life.

Homo sex is more evil than hetero sex, it's based on the influence of demons. Nothing good about it at all, hetero sex is ordained of God and is necessary for reproduction.

Don't start telling me homo sex is acceptable in 'marriage' either.

nightlight wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:51 am My point is....

If you die in your sins....ANY sin, you can't inherit the Kingdom of God.

We give too much credence to homosexuality... It's a sin, deny yourself of it and live,or become it and die.

Wide the road.....

Great point and totally agree. So why do we not fight so hard against all the other sins people bring with them to Christ in our Church?

Luke wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:53 am

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:51 am

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:46 am

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:35 am

Totally ignorant statement. I've known people who were clearly effeminate and had gay tendencies from the time they were just entering puberty. But yeah, they are just really evil people who choose to sin in a way where historically they get ridiculed, shamed, emancipated by their families, and even physically assaulted until recent decades.

No one has said that a person experiencing sexual attraction to the same gender is inherently evil. We have only said that homosexual relations (sexual gratification with someone of the same gender) is evil.

I know the Gay Agenda totally HATES the idea of love the sinner, hate the sin, but isn't that exactly what Christ does? He loves all of us, but He absolutely hates any sort of sin.

This is why the LDS pro-LGBTQ folks are teaching our youth and children that the Church is wrong about homosexuality. They are teaching that gay sex in good, lovely, divine, holy, and sanctioned by God. What a load of crap.

This is a contradiction to what others have stated in this very thread. It was even said that homosexuals should not be allowed to come to Church. I was also told that gay sex is more evil than hetero sex. Sorry, but I have a hard time seeing you sitting in Church next to someone who "struggles with same gender attraction." From what I've read you post over the last several months, you particularly seem to hold any homosexual as total evil and out to ruin your happy way of life.

Homo sex is more evil than hetero sex, it's based on the influence of demons. Nothing good about it at all, hetero sex is ordained of God and is necessary for reproduction.

Don't start telling me homo sex is acceptable in 'marriage' either.

I could say the same thing about pornography. Totally evil, inspired by demons etc. It has REAL harmful consequences....young girls abducted and abused and forced into sex work even. And yet.....not a peep about keeping people who "struggle with pornography" out of our Church and out of the fellowship with the Saints.

I love how you sit on your high and mighty horse condemning the sins of others. Tell me.....have you ever been enticed by the glow of a computer screen in the night? I am sure you have. Perhaps I should persecute you the way you persecute homosexuals.

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:51 am

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:46 am

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:35 am

Luke wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 5:01 am

Yes they do. Stop defending something evil.

Totally ignorant statement. I've known people who were clearly effeminate and had gay tendencies from the time they were just entering puberty. But yeah, they are just really evil people who choose to sin in a way where historically they get ridiculed, shamed, emancipated by their families, and even physically assaulted until recent decades.

No one has said that a person experiencing sexual attraction to the same gender is inherently evil. We have only said that homosexual relations (sexual gratification with someone of the same gender) is evil.

I know the Gay Agenda totally HATES the idea of love the sinner, hate the sin, but isn't that exactly what Christ does? He loves all of us, but He absolutely hates any sort of sin.

This is why the LDS pro-LGBTQ folks are teaching our youth and children that the Church is wrong about homosexuality. They are teaching that gay sex in good, lovely, divine, holy, and sanctioned by God. What a load of crap.

This is a contradiction to what others have stated in this very thread. It was even said that homosexuals should not be allowed to come to Church. I was also told that gay sex is more evil than hetero sex. Sorry, but I have a hard time seeing you sitting in Church next to someone who "struggles with same gender attraction." From what I've read you post over the last several months, you particularly seem to hold any homosexual as total evil and out to ruin your happy way of life.

Wrong!! One of my best friends was gay (she has died of cancer). I met her in the temple. I sat next to her on many temple sessions. I packed up her entire home, including 1000's of books, when she moved out of state to be close to her family as she faced death. There was no doubt of my love and acceptance of her. The thing is, she always knew that acting on her gayness would be an evil thing, and she fought it valiantly. She repented when lustful thoughts entered her mind. She told very few people she was gay so that she could live the gospel without being judged as a lesbian. She held ward callings, and became a temple worker. She pled with the Lord to change her. She was the antithesis of today's LDS pro-gay agenda members.

I hold homosexuality as total evil, and I see it pervading the Church and it may well be the ruin of the Church. Any homosexual who is striving to live the gospel, striving to control their thoughts, and petitioning the Lord for forgiveness and healing, has my love and my respect.

I just discovered something odd about Google Search.

I couldn't remember a particular Bible verse used in discussions about
homosexuality. So, I went to Google Search and began to type in the words

"bible quotes about homosexuality".

I got as far as "bible quotes about hom..." and got the following auto-completes:

bible quotes about home
bible quotes about homelessness
bible quotes about home and family
bible quotes about homesickness
bible quotes about homewreckers
bible quotes about homeschool
biblical quotes about homelessness
biblical quotes about home and family
bible verses about home
bible verses about home and family

When I added another letter as in "bible quotes about homo..." the list of
auto-completes disappeared and even typing in the full phrase "bible quotes
about homosexuality" brought up nothing at all.

Finally, typing in the full phrase "bible quotes about homosexuality" and
pressing ENTER brought up the usual list of related websites. But, surprise!
Every website on the list, at least on the first page of lists, was a website
explaining why the each verse used to condemn homosexuality actually did not
do that or the verse meant something else! Each website on the first page list
was in support of homosexual behavior or dismissed it as something accepted
in the time of Jesus Christ (and should be accepted now).

I was genuinely surprised by this. There you have it. Social engineering
at it's finest, I guess.

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 9:07 am

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:51 am

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:46 am

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:35 am

Totally ignorant statement. I've known people who were clearly effeminate and had gay tendencies from the time they were just entering puberty. But yeah, they are just really evil people who choose to sin in a way where historically they get ridiculed, shamed, emancipated by their families, and even physically assaulted until recent decades.

No one has said that a person experiencing sexual attraction to the same gender is inherently evil. We have only said that homosexual relations (sexual gratification with someone of the same gender) is evil.

I know the Gay Agenda totally HATES the idea of love the sinner, hate the sin, but isn't that exactly what Christ does? He loves all of us, but He absolutely hates any sort of sin.

This is why the LDS pro-LGBTQ folks are teaching our youth and children that the Church is wrong about homosexuality. They are teaching that gay sex in good, lovely, divine, holy, and sanctioned by God. What a load of crap.

This is a contradiction to what others have stated in this very thread. It was even said that homosexuals should not be allowed to come to Church. I was also told that gay sex is more evil than hetero sex. Sorry, but I have a hard time seeing you sitting in Church next to someone who "struggles with same gender attraction." From what I've read you post over the last several months, you particularly seem to hold any homosexual as total evil and out to ruin your happy way of life.

Wrong!! One of my best friends was gay (she has died of cancer). I met her in the temple. I sat next to her on many temple sessions. I packed up her entire home, including 1000's of books, when she moved out of state to be close to her family as she faced death. There was no doubt of my love and acceptance of her. The thing is, she always knew that acting on her gayness would be an evil thing, and she fought it valiantly. She repented when lustful thoughts entered her mind. She told very few people she was gay so that she could live the gospel without being judged as a lesbian. She held ward callings, and became a temple worker. She pled with the Lord to change her. She was the antithesis of today's LDS pro-gay agenda members.

I hold homosexuality as total evil, and I see it pervading the Church and it may well be the ruin of the Church. Any homosexual who is striving to live the gospel, striving to control their thoughts, and petitioning the Lord for forgiveness and healing, has my love and my respect.

God bless your friend. I'm positive the Lord helped her overcome her temptations.

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 9:02 am

Luke wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:53 am

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:51 am

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:46 am

No one has said that a person experiencing sexual attraction to the same gender is inherently evil. We have only said that homosexual relations (sexual gratification with someone of the same gender) is evil.

I know the Gay Agenda totally HATES the idea of love the sinner, hate the sin, but isn't that exactly what Christ does? He loves all of us, but He absolutely hates any sort of sin.

This is why the LDS pro-LGBTQ folks are teaching our youth and children that the Church is wrong about homosexuality. They are teaching that gay sex in good, lovely, divine, holy, and sanctioned by God. What a load of crap.

This is a contradiction to what others have stated in this very thread. It was even said that homosexuals should not be allowed to come to Church. I was also told that gay sex is more evil than hetero sex. Sorry, but I have a hard time seeing you sitting in Church next to someone who "struggles with same gender attraction." From what I've read you post over the last several months, you particularly seem to hold any homosexual as total evil and out to ruin your happy way of life.

Homo sex is more evil than hetero sex, it's based on the influence of demons. Nothing good about it at all, hetero sex is ordained of God and is necessary for reproduction.

Don't start telling me homo sex is acceptable in 'marriage' either.

I could say the same thing about pornography. Totally evil, inspired by demons etc. It has REAL harmful consequences....young girls abducted and abused and forced into sex work even. And yet.....not a peep about keeping people who "struggle with pornography" out of our Church and out of the fellowship with the Saints.

I love how you sit on your high and mighty horse condemning the sins of others. Tell me.....have you ever been enticed by the glow of a computer screen in the night? I am sure you have. Perhaps I should persecute you the way you persecute homosexuals.

I wish the Church did slam down pornography. If fact, if the Church really slammed down pornography I think many of the other evils would start to go away.

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 9:02 am

Luke wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:53 am

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:51 am

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 8:46 am

No one has said that a person experiencing sexual attraction to the same gender is inherently evil. We have only said that homosexual relations (sexual gratification with someone of the same gender) is evil.

I know the Gay Agenda totally HATES the idea of love the sinner, hate the sin, but isn't that exactly what Christ does? He loves all of us, but He absolutely hates any sort of sin.

This is why the LDS pro-LGBTQ folks are teaching our youth and children that the Church is wrong about homosexuality. They are teaching that gay sex in good, lovely, divine, holy, and sanctioned by God. What a load of crap.

This is a contradiction to what others have stated in this very thread. It was even said that homosexuals should not be allowed to come to Church. I was also told that gay sex is more evil than hetero sex. Sorry, but I have a hard time seeing you sitting in Church next to someone who "struggles with same gender attraction." From what I've read you post over the last several months, you particularly seem to hold any homosexual as total evil and out to ruin your happy way of life.

Homo sex is more evil than hetero sex, it's based on the influence of demons. Nothing good about it at all, hetero sex is ordained of God and is necessary for reproduction.

Don't start telling me homo sex is acceptable in 'marriage' either.

I could say the same thing about pornography. Totally evil, inspired by demons etc. It has REAL harmful consequences....young girls abducted and abused and forced into sex work even. And yet.....not a peep about keeping people who "struggle with pornography" out of our Church and out of the fellowship with the Saints.

I love how you sit on your high and mighty horse condemning the sins of others. Tell me.....have you ever been enticed by the glow of a computer screen in the night? I am sure you have. Perhaps I should persecute you the way you persecute homosexuals.

Lol you can't make this stuff up. Are you trolling mate?

I think pornography is disgusting and is an abomination, inspired by demons. But the discussion isn't about pornography, it's about homosexuality.

Also, you don't even know me nor who I am and you're making baseless accusations. No, the glow of a computer screen hasn't been enticing me. Absolute melt.

thestock wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 9:02 am I love how you sit on your high and mighty horse condemning the sins of others. Tell me.....have you ever been enticed by the glow of a computer screen in the night? I am sure you have. Perhaps I should persecute you the way you persecute homosexuals.

if Luke identified as a pornographer and made viewing pornography the central tenent of his being...
If he claimed he was born w/ a natural desire to watch pornography and that it was therefore beautiful because God made him that way...
If he claimed pornography was not sinful but something to be purused with vigor so he could be the person God created him to be...
If he participated in pro-pornogpaphy parades and events and advocated for pornography to be available in church builidngs...
If the church suddenly said that viewing pornography was no longer sinful as long as you didn't actually engage in sex yourself...

Then you would have cause to "persecute" him in the same way he is "persecuting" the homosexual. Which persecution consists of calling out homosexuality as sinful. And you would find all of us you accuse of persecution doing the same thing.

Ascribing sinful behavior to others simply because you don't like their message is rather a vile thing to do.

You seem to think our problem is with the homosexual themselves. It never has been. Our problem is that we as a church are calling what is a grevious sin good and normal. The fruit of this is a corruption of the church and its members. We will be leading people to embrace sin and away from Christ, and will be unable to help those who struggle with issue and wish to overcome it.

Great8 wrote: ↑February 20th, 2020, 5:41 pm Huge disappointment. Both my kids who attend BYU-Provo are totally confused/disappointed. I told them that the loud minority is stronger than the silent majority which is what is happening throughout the world. I told them to go read Moroni 8 and make that their personal mantra in life. Not sure how to defend the church in this matter when the church is providing an additional cloud of confusion to the youth who are already confused with the crap going on in the world today. I can see the clouds but our kids don't know any better. I thought that the church would be the source to go to during this time but its only the teachings that can help us. I don't understand it. God help us all!

BYU is no different than any other University other than the students and faculty seem to believe it's God's school, which it ain't.

Where's the honor in the honor code? It's gone. As mentioned by others- a gay couple can hold hands and kiss on campus but you're not allowed to have a beard?? That's ridicurous.

BYU isn't the Gospel. Policies are not the Gospel.

"The (Gay) Family Proclamation" will be coming out soon too.
So why did we pull out of the BSA?
There will now be a spike in LDS youth of coming out now that it is accepted.

There is a group fighting back against gay-dating at BYU. They have set up a Twitter account with the hashtag SaveBYU. Details in this piece from KSL.

https://www.ksl.com/article/46719767/by ... honor-code

Great8 wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 10:49 am "The (Gay) Family Proclamation" will be coming out soon too.
So why did we pull out of the BSA?
There will now be a spike in LDS youth of coming out now that it is accepted.

Coming out is the first and most important step in deciding to act on one's homosexuality. As long as most people don't know a person is LGBT, all the options are open. The more people who know, and especially those who are applauding their gayness, the more likely they will seek gay dates and gay marriage. Then, they can be invited to showcase their gay marriage wedding photos at the Augenstein's sham of a Christ-centered Sunday School for homosexual hookups.

https://m.facebook.com/383315325508180/ ... &source=54

Zathura wrote: ↑February 20th, 2020, 11:04 pm Milo is incredibly educated, always has sources to cite when making claims, has an arsenal of studies to back up his controversial statements, very quick and whitty, is able to stop on a dime an answer questions when people switch topics on him or interrupt him. He has a lot of good to say, especially about the progressive movement starting in the early-mid 1900s and its entrance into academia and eventual takeover. Pretty much everything he says on every social issues is pretty solid imo. As a gay man, he is incredibly critical of the pride movement. He’s a walking contradiction .

It’s a shame that his message won’t reach most people because his language and jokes are absolutely disgusting, and I don’t blame anyone for avoiding him or his books. I chose to filter through it and found plenty of good content.

10/10, but won’t recommend without a very strong warning . VERY vulgar jokes and comments .



Edit: he’s also super pro trump and calls Trump “Daddy” , so anti-trumpers should stay away for sure

i would largely agree with this, and while I dont like everything about milo or agree with everything, I do like him and think he generally serves a good purpose where things like free speech are concerned.

although after watching this interview again im not sure this was the best choice to post here. it’s more about himself and his situation over recent years rather than a discussion about homosexuality in general, although that is touched upon. plus milo’s ego kind of comes through a bit at parts of this interview.

My first post on this site,
My wife told me about this site and would bring it up in conversation from time to time. I decided to join the website and she didn't but enjoys reading it. Regarding the updated honor code at BYU and recent LGBTQ approach(s) by the LDS Church over the past several years, I think it is a radical change and should be discussed since it impacts the lives of many many faithful church members. My ancestors settled Utah and I am a generational Mormon. I like the term Mormon and will continue to use it for myself. Several years ago (5-6) I brought up the topic of homosexuals in the church to my wife. I noticed a change in approach to this subject by members at church and during Elders Quorum. One member in particular had recently moved to Utah for a high level position with The Church. He constantly brought up topics about homosexuality and the need to open our church to homosexuals. I was somewhat shocked by this because he was married had a family and was a leader in the ward. Sometimes I told my wife I wasn't interested in going anymore. This person has since moved out of state and I was relieved to have some normalcy at church. A year later and The Church drops this bomb about BYU. I tell my wife this is still the beginning and more radical changes will be coming. I knew it several years ago and could see The Church changing. I think that if members are ok with the BYU change, as well as the other LGBTQ changes in recent years, then we can expect to see homosexual couples fully accepted and in good standing with The LDS Church. In short, within our lifetime, I think and believe, The Church will have full membership, callings, temple marriage for LGBTQ people. At what point does The LDS Church stop being what it was?

BYU is doing our kids a favor......
Opposing gay dating, hugging, and kissing at BYU is opposing the FP and Q12....

According to this professor: (9 minutes)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR ... 4gTHBP-Vv4

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 1:49 pm BYU is doing our kids a favor......
Opposing gay dating, hugging, and kissing at BYU is opposing the FP and Q12....

According to this professor: (9 minutes)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR ... 4gTHBP-Vv4

Pretty bad.

I can't wait for the inquisition to start in which the LGBTQ+ crowd now uses their new-found power to kick-out those who do not believe homosexuality in any form is acceptable before God.

johnBob wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 2:21 pm

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 1:49 pm BYU is doing our kids a favor......
Opposing gay dating, hugging, and kissing at BYU is opposing the FP and Q12....

According to this professor: (9 minutes)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR ... 4gTHBP-Vv4

Pretty bad.

I can't wait for the inquisition to start in which the LGBTQ+ crowd now uses their new-found power to kick-out those who do not believe homosexuality in any form is acceptable before God.

This professor did state that any negative reaction to homosexual PDA would be violation of item 3 if the Honor Code, and should be reported.

So the 2 gay guys get to lock lips in public, but if you tell them to get a hotel room or something negative, you could get kicked out of school. Silence is now mandated in the face of immoral behavior.

Such a glaring example of evil called good, and good called evil.
Like Robin Hood, I'm gobsmacked.

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 1:49 pm BYU is doing our kids a favor......
Opposing gay dating, hugging, and kissing at BYU is opposing the FP and Q12....

According to this professor: (9 minutes)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR ... 4gTHBP-Vv4

I watched this YouTube vid. This professor says that questioning this is questioning the 12 and Prophet. Further claiming that if you have a problem with the policy then you have a problem of personal faith. So, just throw the issue back into the face of the good normal Mormons. This does not sit well with me. I question this policy, in fact I oppose it to my core. Guess I have been thrown out of my own church?