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WE CAUGHT THEM IN THE ACT: Trump URGENT Speech at The White House

Trump's great comments on Utah's senators: start at 20:38.

The fact so many here support this tyrant just shows how disconnected to freedom many people are. Sad to see so many deceived and blindly accepting this guy.

Phantom wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 8:07 am The fact so many here support this tyrant just shows how disconnected to freedom many people are. Sad to see so many deceived and blindly accepting this guy.

For the record the dems just got caught spying on opposition party presidents, presidential candidates, their aids, and reporters
Lying to FISA courts in order to get warrants to do so
Working with foreign intelligence to gain information on opposition party members that they knew was unverified and using it in an attempt to remove them from office
Using insecure home brew servers in their houses to avoid getting caught and bypass FOIA laws.
Using foreign nations and US taxpayer funded foreign aid as their own personal slush funds. Putting conditions on said aid that a portion of it be cycled back to them through their various charitable foundations, NGOs and businesses.
Providing foreign governments with do not prosecute lists
Gaining sweet jobs for their children on boards of companies who need US involvement in order to avoid being investigated in spite of the fact that their children have no experience
Attempting to remove a fairly elected sitting president from office using the phony information gained above
Attempting to remove a fairly elected sitting president from office via impeachment for investigating everything mentioned above


I think I've only scratched the surface here. I could go on all day. The point is that you think Trump is behaving like a tyrant? The Dems seem to believe they can do whatever they want with impunity.

On top of all of that, based on what I am seeing in the debates, every dem candidate running is an extreme radical leftist. They seem to believe they can open our borders, eliminate the second amendment, and force things like medicare for all on the rest of us with a stroke of a pen.

They can't even make socialism work in our most socialist state of California and yet they think they can make it work on a national level. California has 500 billion in unfunded liabilities, 25% of the nations homeless, the highest poverty rate in spite of having the most social welfare programs, No. 1 in Percentage of Residents 25 and Older Who Never Finished 9th Grade; No. 50 in High School Graduates, and they can't even keep the lights on.

They can't even manage a caucus in one of our least populous state yet they think they can manage every aspect of your life.

I really don't see how there is any option but Trump, but I pay close attention to politics.

Phantom wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 8:07 am The fact so many here support this tyrant just shows how disconnected to freedom many people are. Sad to see so many deceived and blindly accepting this guy.

A tyrant because of?? And compared to whom? Seeing as you've got it all figured out, exactly who of the current crop would you have us support?

Phantom wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 8:07 am The fact so many here support this tyrant just shows how disconnected to freedom many people are. Sad to see so many deceived and blindly accepting this guy.

The thing that disturbs me is to see how many LDS, including very well known, highly educated members, get Trump totally wrong and are suffering from varying degrees of Trump derangement syndrome. All you have to do is go to blogs such as Mormon Dialogue and Discussion or Sic et Non to get a flavor of this phenomenon.

Though DP had to delete one of his latest threads supporting Mitt because of the massive push-back he received (my assumption, but which I think is correct). And there are a few on MDD, including a former DesNews board member, who get the extent of damage Mitt is doing and has done. So all of that is heartening.

Sirius wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 11:28 am

Phantom wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 8:07 am The fact so many here support this tyrant just shows how disconnected to freedom many people are. Sad to see so many deceived and blindly accepting this guy.

A tyrant because of?? And compared to whom? Seeing as you've got it all figured out, exactly who of the current crop would you have us support?

He's a tyrant for defending himself against phony charges in a trial where....

• The dems were allowed to call 18 witnesses. 17 could not name an impeachable crime when directly asked. One gave Exculpatory testimony but they won't mention that one or release the transcript of his testimony in spite of the fact that they released the transcript of the other 17.
  
  The republicans and Trump's defense team were not allowed to call any witnesses.
  
  The Dems asked any question they wanted of the witnesses, The Republicans had to submit their questions in writing and get them approved.
  
  Over three months the dems had hundreds of hours of testimony,
  
  Trump's defense team was given 24 hours to address the charges.
  
  The republicans were not given any say in what happened in the house investigations. We were told it was like a grand jury and that Trump couldn't have any representation because the republicans would be able to do that in the trial, and then they tried to control the trial too by withholding the articles until they got their way

But, hey. It was an unfair trial according to the liberals.

They are not wrong. It was an unfair trial.

larsenb wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 12:09 pm

Phantom wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 8:07 am The fact so many here support this tyrant just shows how disconnected to freedom many people are. Sad to see so many deceived and blindly accepting this guy.

The thing that disturbs me is to see how many LDS, including very well known, highly educated members, get Trump totally wrong and are suffering from varying degrees of Trump derangement syndrome. All you have to do is go to blogs such as Mormon Dialogue and Discussion or Sic et Non to get a flavor of this phenomenon.

Though DP had to delete one of his latest threads supporting Mitt because of the massive push-back he received (my assumption, but which I think is correct). And there are a few on MDD, including a former DesNews board member, who get the extent of damage Mitt is doing and has done. So all of that is heartening.

I think they know exactly what is going on and I think they believe that the ends justify the means. It's a push to remove Trump because he is interfering with their one world socialist utopia where they believe there will be no poor, and there will be no war.

Even if that were true and there will be no poor, and no war there will also be on free will or dissenting thought. It will be Lucifer's one world government not the Savior's.

Good analysis, Markharr. "I think they know exactly what is going on and I think they believe that the ends justify the means. It's a push to remove Trump because he is interfering with their one world socialist utopia where they believe there will be no poor, and there will be no war." AND THEY WILL BE IN CONTROL.

"Even if that were true and there will be no poor, and no war there will also be NO free will or dissenting thought. It will be Lucifer's one world government not the Savior's." VERY FEW THERE BE THAT UNDERSTAND THIS.

lundbaek wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 1:14 pm Good analysis, Markharr. "I think they know exactly what is going on and I think they believe that the ends justify the means. It's a push to remove Trump because he is interfering with their one world socialist utopia where they believe there will be no poor, and there will be no war." AND THEY WILL BE IN CONTROL.

"Even if that were true and there will be no poor, and no war there will also be NO free will or dissenting thought. It will be Lucifer's one world government not the Savior's." VERY FEW THERE BE THAT UNDERSTAND THIS.

I still can't wrap my head around so many highly educated, intelligent LDS buying into this. May be, at least to some extent, but astonishing, nonetheless.

And many of these regard themselves as 'libertarians/Constitutionalists/conservatives' of various stripes, so I tend to think they've wrapped themselves around black-and-white assessments and axles of some of the principles they ascribe to. I.e., they're rigid about what they think are their principles.

larsenb wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 1:42 pm

lundbaek wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 1:14 pm Good analysis, Markharr. "I think they know exactly what is going on and I think they believe that the ends justify the means. It's a push to remove Trump because he is interfering with their one world socialist utopia where they believe there will be no poor, and there will be no war." AND THEY WILL BE IN CONTROL.

"Even if that were true and there will be no poor, and no war there will also be NO free will or dissenting thought. It will be Lucifer's one world government not the Savior's." VERY FEW THERE BE THAT UNDERSTAND THIS.

I still can't wrap my head around so many highly educated, intelligent LDS buying into this. May be, at least to some extent, but astonishing, nonetheless.

And many of these regard themselves as 'libertarians/Constitutionalists/conservatives' of various stripes, so I tend to think they've wrapped themselves around black-and-white assessments and axles of some of the principles they ascribe to. I.e., they're rigid about what they think are their principles.

We always knew that many would be decieved including many of the very elect. You are watching prophesy fulfilled.

I actually had someone respond to me with this today in the comments of the Daily Caller which is Tucker Carlson's news site.

"LOL, I think you'll find it will be you and Israel versus the rest of us soon."

I'm still creeped out by it.

Sirius wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 11:28 am A tyrant because of?? And compared to whom? Seeing as you've got it all figured out, exactly who of the current crop would you have us support?

I have no answer to that for sure. Certainly none of the Democrats.

Phantom wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 3:53 pm

Sirius wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 11:28 am A tyrant because of?? And compared to whom? Seeing as you've got it all figured out, exactly who of the current crop would you have us support?

I have no answer to that for sure. Certainly none of the Democrats.

You don't have the slightest clue as to what the word 'tyrant' means.

No, it does not mean someone that you don't like.
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By the way, you said your work here was finished. I thought that meat whoever was paying you to shill here for the left had ceased to pay you.