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Posted: **January 30th, 2020, 4:24 pm**

Don't start with 'don't speculate or you will apostatize'...

Anyone have any thoughts on what will happen?

Posted: **January 30th, 2020, 4:30 pm**

Luke wrote: ↑January 30th, 2020, 4:24 pm Don't start with 'don't speculate or you will apostatize'...

Anyone have any thoughts on what will happen?

Perhaps it will be similar to a “face to face” event. Much more media implemented (videos, interviews, and such).

Posted: **January 30th, 2020, 5:04 pm**

I remember Spencer W. Kimball broadcasting from the restored Whitmer Homestead in Fayette, NY in 1980. The 150th Anniversary of the founding of the church.

Posted: **January 30th, 2020, 5:05 pm**

Luke wrote: ↑January 30th, 2020, 4:24 pm Don't start with 'don't speculate or you will apostatize'...

Anyone have any thoughts on what will happen?

Things I've heard online, ranked in no specific order.
-Broadcast from conference center in Rexburg and the Sacred Grove
-Sealed portion of plates
-What was told to Joseph Smith during the 1st vision that he has never revealed
-Changes in priesthood structure.
-Temple in MO
-Pick any other topic of speculation....
-Im hoping that Star Wars is accepted as cannon.

Posted: **January 30th, 2020, 5:12 pm**

Predictions-
Sisters will be able to serve missions at 18 yrs old.
Possibly something about women getting the Priesthood.

Posted: **January 30th, 2020, 5:53 pm**

nothing will happen - why should it.
without revelation it will be the same as it always is -
nice talks that they've had 6 months to prepare what they are going to say,
instead of speaking by the spirit.

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=41043&p=996771#p996771

"As we watch General Conference we should look for the spirit of prophecy."
not just listen to nice talks

Posted: **January 30th, 2020, 7:50 pm**

I have low expectations of some spectacular happening. The first thought I had was some extra musicals. If anything they will announce building the temple in Far West Missouri.

Posted: **January 30th, 2020, 8:18 pm**

I don't think it will be announced during Conference, but I expect that the new Handbook will delete any mention of discipline for same-sex married couples who are only having sex with each other. No big announcement, just an alignment that sex outside of marriage is a sin, but married sex is okay.

Posted: **January 30th, 2020, 8:27 pm**

more of the same - ok to good talks - unfortunately I've come to accept nothing prophetic to be revealed during conference. Oh how I wish though!

Posted: **January 30th, 2020, 11:01 pm**

I predict that we will be counceled to be obedient to government and to follow along with what our political leaders decide for us and that these leaders are divinely appointed to lead over us. This will be in preparation for more LGBTQ acceptance in the church. As laws are passex which violate our religious morals the revelations to be obedient to government will be used as an excuse as to why these things are being accepted within the church.

Posted: **January 30th, 2020, 11:05 pm**

I predict that we will be counceled to be obedient to government and to follow along with what our political leaders decide for us and that these leaders are divinely appointed to lead over us. This will be in preparation for more LGBTQ acceptance in the church. As laws are passex which violate our religious morals the revelations to be obedient to government will be used as an excuse as to why these things are being accepted within the church.

Posted: **January 31st, 2020, 7:33 am**

...that i will act like a good dad and motivate my kids and then sit in my arm chair and fall asleep...

...i've been right every time for the last few years...

Posted: **January 31st, 2020, 8:09 am**

It will be cancelled because of coronavirus fears

Posted: **January 31st, 2020, 10:25 am**

Vision wrote: ↑January 31st, 2020, 8:09 am It will be cancelled because of coronavirus fears

I think coronavirus definitely could impact that meeting in huge ways, that's for sure. Some estimate the spread to be peaking around April, and if so, I could see one possibility being that the First Presidency would ask people to NOT gather at the conference center, in stake centers, or in ward chapels, but that it would be nearly 100% viewed from home for those who can.

Posted: **January 31st, 2020, 10:59 am**

Scooter wrote: ↑January 30th, 2020, 5:05 pm -Im hoping that Star Wars is accepted as cannon.

It already is.

Several weeks back, a youth started dropping Star Wars plot points to illustrate "the truth of the gospel". I thought "Gee, how sad... Just wait until he hears about philosophies of men mingled with scripture..."

Two hours later, I'm in the clerk's office and the next ward has started. Another youth gets up and starts spouting nearly the same talk with Star Wars references.

When we can't talk about the gospel without "The Force" references, we're toast.

Posted: **January 31st, 2020, 11:09 am**

Luke wrote: ↑January 30th, 2020, 4:24 pm Don't start with 'don't speculate or you will apostatize'...

Anyone have any thoughts on what will happen?

I have not heard anything about this conference. I'm just guessing.

I'm guessing they will talk about the gathering of Israel and issue a challenge to get people to join the church. That's why they asked everyone to think of where they would be without the church. Because if you can't create a value proposition, you won't be able to sell the product. Everyone is supposed to head into this conference with that value proposition. Also, they have been talking a lot about the gathering of Israel.

I'm guessing Saturday, they'll talk about scriptural references and drop some hints of what is coming Sunday.

Then Sunday, first thing, they'll have converted Jews speak or announce some kind of joint venture/merger with some synagogues or something. Some kind of idea that they are actually going to have the gathering of Israel. Possibly have people from each tribe speak... something like that. They will basically legitimize that now is the time to gather Israel for real.

Then they're going to issue a challenge about gathering of Israel and discuss how you can do it briefly, along with an announcement of some organizational changes that will make this possible.

That seems the most logical to me. I posted my predictions before I read any of the others so as not to be influenced.

Update:
I'm pretty ready to accept, like many previous posters, that the church is not receiving any superior revelation at all. It's hard to imagine them doing anything that will be "unforgettable" unless it's the abomination of desolation or the above. If it's some musical numbers or broadcasting from some other location, that is an affront to what is truly unforgettable. It would be astonishing to see them try to pass that off as unforgettable. If that's what I get, I'm going to close this chapter of my life and figure out how to go forward. If I get the above, it will keep dragging on. If it's something truly unforgettable, great. The church has done good things for me, but I don't feel like it does now or that it facilitates me doing good things either.

Posted: **January 31st, 2020, 12:06 pm**

harakim wrote: ↑January 31st, 2020, 11:09 am
Luke wrote: ↑January 30th, 2020, 4:24 pm Don't start with 'don't speculate or you will apostatize'...

Anyone have any thoughts on what will happen?
I have not heard anything about this conference. I'm just guessing.

I'm guessing they will talk about the gathering of Israel and issue a challenge to get people to join the church. That's why they asked everyone to think of where they would be without the church. Because if you can't create a value proposition, you won't be able to sell the product. Everyone is supposed to head into this conference with that value proposition. Also, they have been talking a lot about the gathering of Israel.

I'm guessing Saturday, they'll talk about scriptural references and drop some hints of what is coming Sunday.

Then Sunday, first thing, they'll have converted Jews speak or announce some kind of joint venture/merger with some synagogues or something. Some kind of idea that they are actually going to have the gathering of Israel. Possibly have people from each tribe speak... something like that. They will basically legitimize that now is the time to gather Israel for real.

Then they're going to issue a challenge about gathering of Israel and discuss how you can do it briefly, along with an announcement of some organizational changes that will make this possible.

That seems the most logical to me. I posted my predictions before I read any of the others so as not to be influenced.

Update:
I'm pretty ready to accept, like many previous posters, that the church is not receiving any superior revelation at all. It's hard to imagine them doing anything that will be "unforgettable" unless it's the abomination of desolation or the above. If it's some musical numbers or broadcasting from some other location, that is an affront to what is truly unforgettable. It would be astonishing to see them try to pass that off as unforgettable. If that's what I get, I'm going to close this chapter of my life and figure out how to go forward. If I get the above, it will keep dragging on. If it's something truly unforgettable, great. The church has done good things for me, but I don't feel like it does now or that it facilitates me doing good things either.

I would venture to say that the church is not going to produce this unforgettable experience. If people are waiting to have their jaws dropped by some talk or revelation then they will be severely disappointed. I believe this unforgettable experience will come from within coupled with the spirit possibly confirming a powerful testimony to the heart and soul.

IMO anyone looking to be acted upon by the church will come out of the meetings with a sore attitude.

Posted: **January 31st, 2020, 12:48 pm**

MMbelieve wrote: ↑January 31st, 2020, 12:06 pm IMO anyone looking to be acted upon by the church will come out of the meetings with a sore attitude.

Truth.

Posted: **January 31st, 2020, 1:49 pm**

It will probably be unforgettable in much the same way as the snow storm that wasn't.

Posted: **January 31st, 2020, 3:14 pm**

Only the announcement that the lost 116 pages have been found and are being published, and will be included into the Book of Mormon will surprise me.

I expect more church wide goals for the benefit of the "business of the corporation".

Something I would never forget, would be to personally receive a letter from President Nelson urging me to sell all that I have and head to Jackson County.

Even a huge giant announcement like China opening it's borders to missionary work doesn't lay in the realm of "unforgettable".

Posted: **January 31st, 2020, 3:20 pm**

Vision wrote: ↑January 31st, 2020, 8:09 am It will be cancelled because of coronavirus fears

Maybe.... (at least the media is whipping up the panic level because they need something else in the news to overshadow the acquittal of President Trump).

But truth be told, the corona virus is less deadly right now than the regular flu.
And in 1918 the Spanish Influenza pandemic had the vast majority survive being sick.

"Mortality of the Spanish Flu Pandemic. The global mortality rate from the 1918/1919 pandemic is not known, but it is estimated that 10% to 20% of those who were infected died. With about a third of the world population infected, this case-fatality ratio means that 3% to 6% of the entire global population died". which means 97% to 94% of the global population kept on living..

Posted: **January 31st, 2020, 3:25 pm**

I once watch my cat jump like six feet in air to grab two birds, one with each front paw....He pinned them both but let one go while he ate the other.

That was unforgettable to me

Posted: **January 31st, 2020, 5:03 pm**

It's not THAT hard to make it an unforgettable event. All it takes is something that's out of the routine.

Honestly, the announcement to rebuild the Provo Tabernacle into a temple was unforgettable to me. Yeah, it's just a temple. But I get emotional over it, not because of the temple announcement, but because of the symbolism of rising back up out of the ashes. I think everything that happened to that building (the fire, the history, the rebuilding) contains lessons for us.

In some ways we're burning down right now (morally, as a people).

There are other unforgettable moments I can think of too. Just set your expectations properly.

Posted: **January 31st, 2020, 8:23 pm**

I heard they may announce that the garments only need to be worn now while in the temple. Pure speculation though.

Posted: **January 31st, 2020, 8:51 pm**

tdj wrote: ↑January 31st, 2020, 8:23 pm I heard they may announce that the garments only need to be worn now while in the temple. Pure speculation though.

As all the old laws have gone away or been changed into more spiritual manifestations, I can see the garments at some point being unnecessary. Probably not until much later though if they ever are not required. The laws are for those who don’t have it written in their head and heart but once it is, there is no law giver needed anymore. Someday the righteous will no longer be concerned with all these policies, IMO.

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