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gkearney wrote: ↑January 18th, 2020, 9:02 am We need to clarify that this is being done only to inbound passengers from certain areas of central China at this point.

Also this is standard procedure when contagious illnesses break out, we did the same with SARS and MERS in 2002 and 2012. I can recall being screened upon entry to Australia from the United States when the U.S. was having a very bad flu season.

This, folks, is why we have the CDC and the U.S. Public Health Service. In the age of ships they used to quarantine whole vessels, thankfully that is not required any longer. However quarantining persons entering the U.S., or any other nation for that matter, has long been employed by public health authorities. In the United States it dates back to 1798 and the establishment of quarantine hospitals for merchant seamen.

The screaming tabloid like treatment of this in the videos below is really not called for. I mean comparing this to Ebola? Really that is over the top. Talk about using scare tactics. This guy does the very thing he accusing others of engaging in.

SPIRIT wrote: ↑January 18th, 2020, 9:23 am D&C 45
31 And there shall be men standing in that generation, that shall not pass until they shall see an overflowing scourge; for a desolating sickness shall cover the land.

D&C 45:28-31
28 And when the times of the Gentiles is come in, a light shall break forth among them that sit in darkness, and it shall be the fulness of my gospel;

29 BUT THEY RECEIVE IT NOT;
for they perceive not the light, and they turn their hearts from me because of the precepts of men.

30 And in that generation shall the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

31 And there shall be men standing in that generation, that shall not pass until they shall see an overflowing scourge; for a desolating sickness shall cover the land.

SPIRIT wrote: ↑January 18th, 2020, 9:23 am so gkearney, just curious why you always like to downplay everything.
I mean, I know the news likes to hype up everything, but don't you think that it's better to at least know a little bit of what's going on than to think that nothing is ever serious or could ever happen.

gkearney wrote: ↑January 18th, 2020, 2:23 pm

SPIRIT wrote: ↑January 18th, 2020, 9:23 am so gkearney, just curious why you always like to downplay everything.
I mean, I know the news likes to hype up everything, but don't you think that it's better to at least know a little bit of what's going on than to think that nothing is ever serious or could ever happen.

It not that I am downplaying it. Yes, it is useful to know what is going on, I work in the media, remember. The media has reported this quite well without all the histarics that the original videos employed.

What is not useful to hype up every event as it it is the end of the world like is so often done here. Reading these forums we have earthquake predictions, rouge planets, you name it. Only problem is nothing ever comes of these and when I point out for example that saying an earthquake will at some point the the future will strike Salt Lake is not at all the same as predicting a given earthquake in a given time frame, or that a rouge planets would cause the tides to change from their predicted times and level thus giving the whole world proof of its existence or even that public health actions are standard practice I get accused of "downplaying"?

I would note here that it is not the regular media hyping this story, no it is some wing nut with a YouTube Channel doing so.

gkearney wrote: ↑January 18th, 2020, 2:23 pm

SPIRIT wrote: ↑January 18th, 2020, 9:23 am so gkearney, just curious why you always like to downplay everything.
I mean, I know the news likes to hype up everything, but don't you think that it's better to at least know a little bit of what's going on than to think that nothing is ever serious or could ever happen.

It not that I am downplaying it. Yes, it is useful to know what is going on, I work in the media, remember. The media has reported this quite well without all the histarics that the original videos employed.

What is not useful to hype up every event as it it is the end of the world like is so often done here. Reading these forums we have earthquake predictions, rouge planets, you name it. Only problem is nothing ever comes of these and when I point out for example that saying an earthquake will at some point the the future will strike Salt Lake is not at all the same as predicting a given earthquake in a given time frame, or that a rouge planets would cause the tides to change from their predicted times and level thus giving the whole world proof of its existence or even that public health actions are standard practice I get accused of "downplaying"?

I would note here that it is not the regular media hyping this story, no it is some wing nut with a YouTube Channel doing so.

abijah` wrote: ↑January 19th, 2020, 5:44 am

h_p wrote: ↑January 21st, 2020, 7:52 pm What makes this virus so newsworthy? Honest question. I really must be missing something.

The first case in Wuhan was on December 12, 2019. The Chinese authorities sat on this for 4 full weeks! This was a criminal coverup. If they had shut down Wuhan 3 weeks ago, the spread could have been averted.

The so called "fish market" which is claimed to be ground zero; was in fact a warehouse full of stalls of exotic and wild animal merchants with live animals stacked up vertically, and selling for human consumption. These people are apparently INCAPABLE of learning. Why in the hell are we trading with such a corrupt and criminal country?

Quarantine on Wuhan is too damn late. They have lost containment. The window of opportunity closed weeks ago. The Chinese regime is criminally incompetent.

Hospitals in Wuhan are reported to be overflowing, with patients lined up in hallways. The numbers are obviously being under reported. Thanks, China, for exporting your misery. We all look forward to you creating and exporting another variant of SARS in 2-3 years, and again, and again, and again... so you can eat freakin wild animals, because of your cultural arrogance.

China is not a 3rd world country anymore; time to grow the hell up; and get a handle on public health and safety; or be treated as a pariah. All the cheap crap you export is simply not worth the risk; if it comes with the diseases you seem intent on manufacturing and exporting.

These "wet markets" are disease factories. Shut them down!

ChooseTruth wrote: ↑January 21st, 2020, 10:09 pm

h_p wrote: ↑January 21st, 2020, 7:52 pm What makes this virus so newsworthy? Honest question. I really must be missing something.

The corona virus is incredibly common and accounts for the majority of cases of the common cold. Currently, there are 5-6 strains that have been identified with most being mostly harmless. Unfortunately a few strains can be deadly. SARS is one of the deadly strains of corona virus with about a 10% mortality rate. The current strain hitting the news was newly discovered and named after the ar a in China where it developed. So far, it has a 2-3% mortality rate. Therein lies the concern