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Like the automobile industry, which had more than 200 car makers in the 1920s and emerged from the Depression with just a few, Silicon Valley is in for some serious contraction.

Being made redandant from STMicroelectronics in 2003 was the best thing that could have happened to me. I absolutely hated working in the consumer electronics industry, and I was actively seeking a new job anyway.

We all had our pay frozen for a couple of years. I remember going to quarterly meetings where our big boss would show us lots of powerpoints telling us that the industry was struggling. I wonder what it is like now!!! Anyway, they paid me off with a quite a few grand in June 2003, and I sold up and moved to Scotland where I had enough to buy a similar size house for cash. I don't envy those who are still working for ST (or any of the other design houses and fabs). It was a stressful time back in 2003, before we had heard of the 'credit crunch'. I feel sorry for the thousands of innocent bank workers, shop assistants etc who have lost their jobs recently and won't be receiving generous redundancy payments. What a lousy Christmas they must be having. The media is saying that many more shops and businesses are going to go belly up in the New Year.

I reckon real jobs will become rare in the new emerging economy. Most of us will probably be fighting for a handful of menial service sector jobs after 2009.

English Saint wrote:I reckon real jobs will become rare in the new emerging economy. Most of us will probably be fighting for a handful of menial service sector jobs after 2009.

It's interesting to read lately how anti-immigration activists are talking up about how Mexican immigrants are stealing jobs from Americans. Like Americans want to work in poultry factories risking life and limb (literally) cutting up birds. Or working in sweltering heat picking strawberries and beans.

That could be changing, though. In a couple years those could be prized jobs.

[10. Satellite radio
I'm sorry, Howard Stern. It's over. The newly merged Sirius XM Radio simply cannot sustain its losses. The company is already deeply in debt and would need to dramatically increase subscribers over the next six months in order to meet its debt obligations. Unfortunately, new car sales, where a huge percentage of satellite radios are sold, are in the gutter and stand-alone subscriptions are way down.]
This one I’ll disagree with. When the “fairness doctrine” gets through Congress and signed by Pres Obama, where will all of those listening to conservative talk radio go? Satellite radio or short wave. My guess is the big players will go to Sirius XM.
[It's interesting to read lately how anti-immigration activists are talking up about how Mexican immigrants are stealing jobs from Americans. Like Americans want to work in poultry factories risking life and limb (literally) cutting up birds.]

I remember when ICE cleared out those plants of illegals that there was a line blocks long of Americans to fill those jobs. If I remember correctly, that is.

The key will be how to keep the job you have. If the company you work for doesn’t go completely out of business what you have to do is out produce and work harder than anyone else at your job. I am not talking about brown nosing but being the guy that your boss would be an idiot to lay off instead of the other lazy co-workers (unless of course it’s between you and his son-in-law ).

gruden wrote:

English Saint wrote:I reckon real jobs will become rare in the new emerging economy. Most of us will probably be fighting for a handful of menial service sector jobs after 2009.

It's interesting to read lately how anti-immigration activists are talking up about how Mexican immigrants are stealing jobs from Americans. Like Americans want to work in poultry factories risking life and limb (literally) cutting up birds. Or working in sweltering heat picking strawberries and beans.

That could be changing, though. In a couple years those could be prized jobs.

Thats a load of crap. I worked in a slaughter house and I am not a Mexican. As a kid, I picked produce for money one summer.

When touring Sanpete's Turkey Factory in the summer just weeks before the news of the closure, it was about half hispanic worker population. But then again, they are all layed off now. Maybe they will go home.

Hispanics are only taking the jobs that Welfare dependents would have been doing. Get rid of welfare and the illegals will go home.

Can't wait for good men to prevail with America returning to an Agrarian and Manufacturing society. If you think about it, Pert Schiffs quote about 4 asians and one white guy stranded on an island.

Have you seen that guy on youtube, "If I were a terroist" So true, with the economic collapse that is soon approaching, all of our steel plants are gone, all of our substantive jobs have been lost under Bush Clinton Bush NWO reign. They managed to kill America in just 20 short years.

As a kid, I picked produce for money one summer.

You too?

I spent a summer in high school picking watermelons (in AZ). Rode the buses out to the farms with all of the migrant workers and everything.

One thing that may not survive the recession (and liberal rule) is free Internet. The Dimocrats have been trying for years to figure out how to tax the Internet. Those socialist programs are expensive so they will be highly motivated to find new sources of revenues. I suspect they will call it something like the "Fair Use Tax". They will spout all of the benefits that the revenues will be spent on.

It already costs for service, any increase, and I will unplug.