Elders Quorum attendance
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largerthanlife
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Elders Quorum attendance
We have such low turnout in Elders Quorum. 3 to 6 people. Most of the men in our ward have callings in Primary, Young Mens and Bishopric. It seems pointless to have a meeting with so few "Elders". What do you think?
- inho
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If all of the handful of men attending had prepare for the class, there would be a potential for great discussion. Often small groups are better for teaching situation.
However, it is more likely that nobody has prepared and then a small group might be just awkward.
However, it is more likely that nobody has prepared and then a small group might be just awkward.
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19Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 20For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.largerthanlife wrote: ↑December 30th, 2019, 10:41 pm We have such low turnout in Elders Quorum. 3 to 6 people. Most of the men in our ward have callings in Primary, Young Mens and Bishopric. It seems pointless to have a meeting with so few "Elders". What do you think?
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I used to reside in a ward where the Elder's quorum meeting was about that size. In fact I served as the Elder's quorum president in that ward. I thought it was great having a class that small. The lessons and discussions were much more personal and we became very tight nit.largerthanlife wrote: ↑December 30th, 2019, 10:41 pm We have such low turnout in Elders Quorum. 3 to 6 people. Most of the men in our ward have callings in Primary, Young Mens and Bishopric. It seems pointless to have a meeting with so few "Elders". What do you think?
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mahalanobis
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Technically the standard English definition of quorum is the minimum required number of group members to hold the meeting (or some slight variation).
This is why (outside the church) you hear the phrase "do we have a quorum?" before starting a meeting. I suppose the number in this case is 2 or 3, as pointed out above.
Strangely, in the church, we tend to treat the definition like a maximum. Like, at what point is it too many deacons and should be split into two quorums? (I'm not asking that question, I'm saying that you'll see that attitude often. Also, it doesn't bother me, I'm just pointing it out.)
This is why (outside the church) you hear the phrase "do we have a quorum?" before starting a meeting. I suppose the number in this case is 2 or 3, as pointed out above.
Strangely, in the church, we tend to treat the definition like a maximum. Like, at what point is it too many deacons and should be split into two quorums? (I'm not asking that question, I'm saying that you'll see that attitude often. Also, it doesn't bother me, I'm just pointing it out.)
- David13
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We have quite a big group, with plenty of structure, but also controversy and humor.
So I enjoy it.
As to a small group, it's an opportunity to get to know each other better, I'd say. And get to know the new people, all that.
Enjoy it while you can.
dc
So I enjoy it.
As to a small group, it's an opportunity to get to know each other better, I'd say. And get to know the new people, all that.
Enjoy it while you can.
dc
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I always enjoyed attending gospel principles because it was a smaller class with people, usually on the fringe, with real questions who wanted real answers.
Gospel doctrine in every ward from sea to sea has been teacher pet - regurgitate - virtue signaling affair that sucks out my passion for the restored gospel and its power to heal and lift lives.
Gospel doctrine in every ward from sea to sea has been teacher pet - regurgitate - virtue signaling affair that sucks out my passion for the restored gospel and its power to heal and lift lives.
- Robin Hood
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The bishopric counsellors should be in EQ more often than not.largerthanlife wrote: ↑December 30th, 2019, 10:41 pm We have such low turnout in Elders Quorum. 3 to 6 people. Most of the men in our ward have callings in Primary, Young Mens and Bishopric. It seems pointless to have a meeting with so few "Elders". What do you think?
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I thought that they, too, are nowadays with young men.Robin Hood wrote: ↑January 1st, 2020, 8:19 amThe bishopric counsellors should be in EQ more often than not.largerthanlife wrote: ↑December 30th, 2019, 10:41 pm We have such low turnout in Elders Quorum. 3 to 6 people. Most of the men in our ward have callings in Primary, Young Mens and Bishopric. It seems pointless to have a meeting with so few "Elders". What do you think?
- Robin Hood
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If there is such a small EQ there are unlikely to many YM. The bishop and the YM advisors should be sufficient.inho wrote: ↑January 1st, 2020, 8:41 amI thought that they, too, are nowadays with young men.Robin Hood wrote: ↑January 1st, 2020, 8:19 amThe bishopric counsellors should be in EQ more often than not.largerthanlife wrote: ↑December 30th, 2019, 10:41 pm We have such low turnout in Elders Quorum. 3 to 6 people. Most of the men in our ward have callings in Primary, Young Mens and Bishopric. It seems pointless to have a meeting with so few "Elders". What do you think?
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I agree! Somehow some have been tricked into thinking if they can listen to & regurgitate more trivial dogma, they are more advanced than they are if they genuinely admit to struggling with living the basics (as we all do). One time in Gospel Essentials there were just 2 of us, besides the teacher - so I thought he’d just have us go to another class, but no he taught and he was one of the best teachers I’ve ever had in church. I think part of his job was public speaking. So many missed out.hedgehog wrote: ↑January 1st, 2020, 1:29 am I always enjoyed attending gospel principles because it was a smaller class with people, usually on the fringe, with real questions who wanted real answers.
Gospel doctrine in every ward from sea to sea has been teacher pet - regurgitate - virtue signaling affair that sucks out my passion for the restored gospel and its power to heal and lift lives.
Then again, there have been good teachers - who facilitate discussion rather than lecture. And often the teacher makes all the difference.
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largerthanlife
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Bishopric has never come. None of the clerks or executive secretaries come either. Our nursery has two men in it.Robin Hood wrote: ↑January 1st, 2020, 8:19 amThe bishopric counsellors should be in EQ more often than not.largerthanlife wrote: ↑December 30th, 2019, 10:41 pm We have such low turnout in Elders Quorum. 3 to 6 people. Most of the men in our ward have callings in Primary, Young Mens and Bishopric. It seems pointless to have a meeting with so few "Elders". What do you think?
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There is no need for the exec sec or the clerk to miss EQ. I would suggest they're being, umm, creative with their callings.largerthanlife wrote: ↑January 1st, 2020, 4:17 pmBishopric has never come. None of the clerks or executive secretaries come either. Our nursery has two men in it.Robin Hood wrote: ↑January 1st, 2020, 8:19 amThe bishopric counsellors should be in EQ more often than not.largerthanlife wrote: ↑December 30th, 2019, 10:41 pm We have such low turnout in Elders Quorum. 3 to 6 people. Most of the men in our ward have callings in Primary, Young Mens and Bishopric. It seems pointless to have a meeting with so few "Elders". What do you think?
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mahalanobis
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From what I've seen, this behavior is common. It obviously varies from ward to ward though.Robin Hood wrote: ↑January 1st, 2020, 4:21 pmThere is no need for the exec sec or the clerk to miss EQ. I would suggest they're being, umm, creative with their callings.largerthanlife wrote: ↑January 1st, 2020, 4:17 pmBishopric has never come. None of the clerks or executive secretaries come either. Our nursery has two men in it.Robin Hood wrote: ↑January 1st, 2020, 8:19 amThe bishopric counsellors should be in EQ more often than not.largerthanlife wrote: ↑December 30th, 2019, 10:41 pm We have such low turnout in Elders Quorum. 3 to 6 people. Most of the men in our ward have callings in Primary, Young Mens and Bishopric. It seems pointless to have a meeting with so few "Elders". What do you think?
