Porn in eternities

[djinwa]

God sees everything.

We are striving to become gods, so how will we avoid seeing all the sex going on in the worlds we create?

Or can we eliminate the need for such sex, given its dirty and evil nature?

Surely we can figure out a better way to reproduce, or at least reduce the sex drive in men so they are less attracted to women.

Only need sex once per child produced.

Then we wouldn’t have to fight pornography and immodesty and all sorts of perversions.

[cappaccio]

Sex is not dirty or evil. Why would God create a way to reproduce and then command us to multiply and replenish the earth. The adversary is the one that has made sex evil.

[Silas]

God sees everything.

We are striving to become gods, so how will we avoid seeing all the sex going on in the worlds we create?

Or can we eliminate the need for such sex, given its dirty and evil nature?

Surely we can figure out a better way to reproduce, or at least reduce the sex drive in men so they are less attracted to women.

Only need sex once per child produced.

Then we wouldn’t have to fight pornography and immodesty and all sorts of perversions.

Porn isn’t bad because it’s sex. It’s bad because it subverts men’s natural and honorable desire to create life and turns it against them so that it prevents, weakens, and destroys families.

It’s the perversion of the power that is evil not the power itself. In the Eternities we will be building families. Our desires will be properly ordered so that they build us rather than destroy us.

[djinwa]

“Porn isn’t bad because it’s sex. It’s bad because it subverts men’s natural and honorable desire to create life and turns it against them so that it prevents, weakens, and destroys families. “

But God has to see millions of people nude or having sex. Does it ruin Him also?

[tjtax06]

“Porn isn’t bad because it’s sex. It’s bad because it subverts men’s natural and honorable desire to create life and turns it against them so that it prevents, weakens, and destroys families. “

But God has to see millions of people nude or having sex. Does it ruin Him also?

Pornography is sexual material created for purposes of arousal. Father is perfected and therefore is in absolute control of his thoughts and emotions. In reality, pornography doesn't exist for Father.

Pornography isn't really about a person being naked as much as it a state of mind of the viewer. For a man who is lusting after a woman she could be pornography to him even though she is fully clothed. His state of mind is what creates pornography. This is just my opinion though.

[MMbelieve]

Perfect example of the natural man.
We cannot relate our understanding to the understanding and nature of God. He created us in his image. I do not view my children in such ways...and if we wanted to be better people we would respect other humans as our fellow brothers and sisters and stop using them for our selfish desires.
We simply shouldn’t be using others in these ways. We’re all human beings with similar desires and feelings and we’re all somebodies child or parent.

[The Airbender]

God sees everything.

We are striving to become gods, so how will we avoid seeing all the sex going on in the worlds we create?

Or can we eliminate the need for such sex, given its dirty and evil nature?

Surely we can figure out a better way to reproduce, or at least reduce the sex drive in men so they are less attracted to women.

Only need sex once per child produced.

Then we wouldn’t have to fight pornography and immodesty and all sorts of perversions.

Sex is not dirty or evil. If you remove from yourself your desire and attraction for women, you cut yourself off from your life essence. Sex is the most beautiful, divine and powerful act we have. Neither is the man without the woman or the woman without the man.

[The Airbender]

Perfect example of the natural man.
We cannot relate our understanding to the understanding and nature of God. He created us in his image. I do not view my children in such ways...and if we wanted to be better people we would respect other humans as our fellow brothers and sisters and stop using them for our selfish desires.
We simply shouldn’t be using others in these ways. We’re all human beings with similar desires and feelings and we’re all somebodies child or parent.

Exactly. That's the difference. Whether or not we are violating the agency of another human being.

Pornography is evil because it is fake. What you see is not what is happening in reality.

[Dlight]

God has transcended lust and the natural man, He doesn't feel the natural desires of the flesh, he's a perfect man.

So nudity and pornography doesn't effect him or arouse him, in fact if anything it sickens or saddens him to witness how we fail to partake of the higher form of love he must feel for his wife, a love that is more about the unification of souls, an expression of deep affection based on true altruistic spiritual love and creation rather than what many of us experience as nothing more than a lustful sexual act.

It saddens God to watch the repurcussion that comes into the lives of those who live after the manner of sin because wickedness never was happiness and therefore creates the conditions of hell and all suffering, and we cheat ourselves of the greater happiness.

[Doxxen]

God sees everything.

We are striving to become gods, so how will we avoid seeing all the sex going on in the worlds we create?

Or can we eliminate the need for such sex, given its dirty and evil nature?

Surely we can figure out a better way to reproduce, or at least reduce the sex drive in men so they are less attracted to women.

Only need sex once per child produced.

Then we wouldn’t have to fight pornography and immodesty and all sorts of perversions.

So women don't have sex drives for men? Wow that is incredibly sexists saying that is a 1 way direction. If you think sex is dirty and evil you are a sexually repressed sexually abused individual. I'm going to go with science because at least it doesn't tell me to hate my genitals and resent what is completely natural and healthy. If you only have sex just for child bearing that is incredibly sad.

[djinwa]

You can say sex isn’t dirty but 98% of the time that is how it is portrayed.

So basically God does not have any lust.

So we should become that way, as described in a thread here. This wife is actually helping her husband overcome his lustful urges and become more god-like.


viewtopic.php?f=1&t=28709&start=30

“There are cases where this is not an option because one partner or the other refuses. Case in point: I know a couple where the wife has steadfastly refused sex for over ten years. One day, the husband was watching her bend over in her pajamas while she was picking something up off the floor, and he looked down her top. She immediately stood up and yelled at him for being a dirty old man for looking at his own wife’s nakedness. When this man came to me and a friend who is a bishop (not the husband’s bishop) for advice, we recommended the books “And They Were Not Ashamed” by Sr. Laura Brotherson and “The Purity and the Passion” by Wendy Watson. When he recommended either book to his wife, he again got yelled at because he only wanted her to read those books so he could convince her to let him “work off his lustful desires” on her. I recognize that this is a woman in serious need of professional counseling (which she’s never going to get) but it’s not an isolated case. Their marriage continues along, and the husband, now in his 18th year of enforced celibacy honors his marriage through a sense of duty rather than desire. “

[Benaishtart]

God sees everything.

We are striving to become gods, so how will we avoid seeing all the sex going on in the worlds we create?

Or can we eliminate the need for such sex, given its dirty and evil nature?

Surely we can figure out a better way to reproduce, or at least reduce the sex drive in men so they are less attracted to women.

Only need sex once per child produced.

Then we wouldn’t have to fight pornography and immodesty and all sorts of perversions.

I’ll let you in on a little secret. Where God lives is a giant big Urim and Thumim. They see everything!!!! And people who get these rocks will typically see a few different things about themselves off the bat. Some of the common visions people see are the fall, the atonement, historical tragedies, and some personal stuff like their own conception. I’ll just tell you that there’s very mature content involved with these seeings and that it would honestly be pushing the R rating envelope if it was a movie.

Also about making men less attracted to women that’s definitely a big part of Satan’s current agenda. It’s so that less children come to earth.

[captainfearnot]

You can say sex isn’t dirty but 98% of the time that is how it is portrayed.

So basically God does not have any lust.

I suspect that when God watches human beings copulate (or murder one another, or get up to all manner of evil and iniquity) it doesn't defile him any more than it defiles humans to watch animals copulate with (or kill) each other. Or insects. Or plants. Or single-celled organisms. Choose the analogy that you imagine best illustrates the chasm between mankind and Deity.

I don't know if God experiences lust, or what might trigger it. Other gods? Supernovas and black holes? Whatever it is, I'm pretty sure it's not scrawny human beings.

[ajax]

So basically God has watched and will watch every porn movie and clip ever produced?

The all seeing eye indeed.

Or could it be that He doesn't see or watch anything, but man convicts and condemns himself when in his presence?

[Doxxen]

You can say sex isn’t dirty but 98% of the time that is how it is portrayed.

So basically God does not have any lust.

So we should become that way, as described in a thread here. This wife is actually helping her husband overcome his lustful urges and become more god-like.


viewtopic.php?f=1&t=28709&start=30

“There are cases where this is not an option because one partner or the other refuses. Case in point: I know a couple where the wife has steadfastly refused sex for over ten years. One day, the husband was watching her bend over in her pajamas while she was picking something up off the floor, and he looked down her top. She immediately stood up and yelled at him for being a dirty old man for looking at his own wife’s nakedness. When this man came to me and a friend who is a bishop (not the husband’s bishop) for advice, we recommended the books “And They Were Not Ashamed” by Sr. Laura Brotherson and “The Purity and the Passion” by Wendy Watson. When he recommended either book to his wife, he again got yelled at because he only wanted her to read those books so he could convince her to let him “work off his lustful desires” on her. I recognize that this is a woman in serious need of professional counseling (which she’s never going to get) but it’s not an isolated case. Their marriage continues along, and the husband, now in his 18th year of enforced celibacy honors his marriage through a sense of duty rather than desire. “

I seriously can't believe something like this happens. That is a total double standard man hating feminist mentality to say that men are the only one's who lust. That is the biggest lie I have ever heard of on behalf of women. It's a false dichotomy to say that a man can lust after his wife and doesn't want a relationship with his wife is total and utter man hating despicable behavior. Sex drive is a completely normal behavior and if you train a man or woman to suppress their sex drive you are going to cause serious psychological and social harm to that person and any person around them. Training people to hate themselves is so not productive for a healthy life. And also you shouldn't be going to bishops for advice in subjects that they don't have a degree in, you go to a sex counselor, not a bishop. Is that why Mormons teach their kids that's masturbation is bad and try to stop it?

[Juliet]

God invented everything that goes with sexual arousal because He has a plan to use it for His purposes!

I think there was a government sponsored commercial in Sweden about grandma's paying for their married adult children to go on vacation in hopes they would have sex and provide grand babies.

Looking at our reproduction success, I bet God is shaking His head at us wondering if He needed to make the sex drive stronger.

God tries so hard for us to fulfill His purposes and we still find a way to steamroll them and defy Him.

Yes, God sees sex all the time and cheers it on because He wants to send children here to Earth.

Being modest is about doing things the Lord's way. It isn't about never being naked. It's our shame that says 'heaven forbid!'

Are those participating in porn using their sexual energy to create families and eternal relationships? Then it's bad. It isn't being naked or having sex that's bad. It's wasting all that energy that could be put to eternally good use.

[MMbelieve]

God invented everything that goes with sexual arousal because He has a plan to use it for His purposes!

I think there was a government sponsored commercial in Sweden about grandma's paying for their married adult children to go on vacation in hopes they would have sex and provide grand babies.

Looking at our reproduction success, I bet God is shaking His head at us wondering if He needed to make the sex drive stronger.

God tries so hard for us to fulfill His purposes and we still find a way to steamroll them and defy Him.

Yes, God sees sex all the time and cheers it on because He wants to send children here to Earth.

Being modest is about doing things the Lord's way. It isn't about never being naked. It's our shame that says 'heaven forbid!'

Are those participating in porn using their sexual energy to create families and eternal relationships? Then it's bad. It isn't being naked or having sex that's bad. It's wasting all that energy that could be put to eternally good use.

Doubt he’s contemplating that he should have made the sex drive stronger. That’s not even close to the issue.