The Christian Withdrawal Experiment
- gkearney
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The Christian Withdrawal Experiment
Some of you might find this interesting.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... dium=email
There are a ton of towns in the Midwest where something like this could be done by any number of groups.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... dium=email
There are a ton of towns in the Midwest where something like this could be done by any number of groups.
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Re: The Christian Withdrawal Experiment
Looks like a nice place to live.gkearney wrote: ↑December 12th, 2019, 3:48 pm Some of you might find this interesting.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... dium=email
There are a ton of towns in the Midwest where something like this could be done by any number of groups.
Then you have the religion of Woke, which brings this:
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"Cultural sensibilities". That's what they don't have??? Ha, what a joke.
Haven't descended into the cesspool of modern "society" is probably closer to the truth.
dc
Haven't descended into the cesspool of modern "society" is probably closer to the truth.
dc
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Nothing new at all.gkearney wrote: ↑December 12th, 2019, 3:48 pm Some of you might find this interesting.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... dium=email
There are a ton of towns in the Midwest where something like this could be done by any number of groups.
There were many of these separatist groups going back all throughout American history. Some of them are still around, the most visible are the Amish, but there was or is also Amana, etc, many of whom never get and don't' want any publicity.
dc
- captainfearnot
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Sounds good on paper.
But then, so does going to BYU or buying a house in an HOA neighborhood. I'll pass.
But then, so does going to BYU or buying a house in an HOA neighborhood. I'll pass.
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Hey, me too. I'm happy where I am, faults and all.captainfearnot wrote: ↑December 13th, 2019, 10:22 am Sounds good on paper.
But then, so does going to BYU or buying a house in an HOA neighborhood. I'll pass.
dc
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There are tens or hundreds of thousands of members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints who are trying to do this right now. Nice to see we're not alone.gkearney wrote: ↑December 12th, 2019, 3:48 pm Some of you might find this interesting.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... dium=email
There are a ton of towns in the Midwest where something like this could be done by any number of groups.
- gkearney
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Are there such self contained communities like St Mary’s in Kansas. I have visited that town and it is indeed quite remarkable. The school itself is significant. Of course the Catholics have a much more established tradition of religious education than do we.harakim wrote: ↑December 18th, 2019, 11:43 amThere are tens or hundreds of thousands of members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints who are trying to do this right now. Nice to see we're not alone.gkearney wrote: ↑December 12th, 2019, 3:48 pm Some of you might find this interesting.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... dium=email
There are a ton of towns in the Midwest where something like this could be done by any number of groups.
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Thank you for sharing that article. I think that the people who gathered to St. Marys made a wise choice.
Mainstream American society has long since passed the point where you can't participate in most of its customs and still expect to hold on to your family. And Mormons, like most Christians, are generally failing to realize this - they denounce the fornication of Babylon, but have nothing to say about the materialism of Babylon or the sorcery of Babylon, they consume most of the same entertainment media as everyone else, and they allow their children to be education by people who don't share their values.
It is ironic to note that the members of SSPX who are quoted in the article repeatedly talk about wanting to make sure their children go to heaven, whereas in Mormon soteriology, the childrens' salvation would be less of an issue because our scriptures make it clear that if a child grows up under the wrong influences, and goes astray, it is the parents who are in danger of losing their souls.
In conclusion: You win against the system by detaching yourself from the system. Rod Dreher and his followers understand this.
Mainstream American society has long since passed the point where you can't participate in most of its customs and still expect to hold on to your family. And Mormons, like most Christians, are generally failing to realize this - they denounce the fornication of Babylon, but have nothing to say about the materialism of Babylon or the sorcery of Babylon, they consume most of the same entertainment media as everyone else, and they allow their children to be education by people who don't share their values.
It is ironic to note that the members of SSPX who are quoted in the article repeatedly talk about wanting to make sure their children go to heaven, whereas in Mormon soteriology, the childrens' salvation would be less of an issue because our scriptures make it clear that if a child grows up under the wrong influences, and goes astray, it is the parents who are in danger of losing their souls.
In conclusion: You win against the system by detaching yourself from the system. Rod Dreher and his followers understand this.
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I originally was going to say "not yet," but actually, I bet there are communities like this. I know of several that are working towards this point. There are also LDS people participating in intentional communities. I don't know of any completely self-sustaining communities, St. Mary's included. People are working on it, though. As far as education, most LDS people turn to homeschool, I think, instead of a rebranding of public school.gkearney wrote: ↑December 18th, 2019, 3:13 pmAre there such self contained communities like St Mary’s in Kansas. I have visited that town and it is indeed quite remarkable. The school itself is significant. Of course the Catholics have a much more established tradition of religious education than do we.harakim wrote: ↑December 18th, 2019, 11:43 amThere are tens or hundreds of thousands of members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints who are trying to do this right now. Nice to see we're not alone.gkearney wrote: ↑December 12th, 2019, 3:48 pm Some of you might find this interesting.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... dium=email
There are a ton of towns in the Midwest where something like this could be done by any number of groups.
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Re: The Christian Withdrawal Experiment
harakim wrote: ↑December 31st, 2019, 2:59 pmI originally was going to say "not yet," but actually, I bet there are communities like this. I know of several that are working towards this point. There are also LDS people participating in intentional communities. I don't know of any completely self-sustaining communities, St. Mary's included. People are working on it, though. As far as education, most LDS people turn to homeschool, I think, instead of a rebranding of public school.gkearney wrote: ↑December 18th, 2019, 3:13 pmAre there such self contained communities like St Mary’s in Kansas. I have visited that town and it is indeed quite remarkable. The school itself is significant. Of course the Catholics have a much more established tradition of religious education than do we.harakim wrote: ↑December 18th, 2019, 11:43 amThere are tens or hundreds of thousands of members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints who are trying to do this right now. Nice to see we're not alone.gkearney wrote: ↑December 12th, 2019, 3:48 pm Some of you might find this interesting.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... dium=email
There are a ton of towns in the Midwest where something like this could be done by any number of groups.
In the case of St. Marys Kansas the school was an existing Catholic School that until the recent arrivals was under utilized, that is not the case any longer however. The town of St. Marys also has public schools as well. More information can be found at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Mar ... nd_College
