What must change to sustain our future?

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gkearney
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JohnnyL wrote: December 16th, 2019, 10:40 am I feel somewhat safe saying that when the high school student 100 years ago could outperform the top 5-3% of the top students now, money is not the key, never has been, and never will be.
I would point out that 100 years ago (1919) universal secondary education was not the rule, many people, and in particular boys, did not progress beyond the eighth grade at the time. So you have in high schools of the time a system which had weeded out the poor performing students leaving only those academically able students. So the comparison is not really a valid one.

This was so much the case that during both World War I and II the military instituted programs to try and give soldiers and sailors the opportunity to complete their schooling while in the service. True universal secondary education like we have today would not really come into play until after the Second World War.

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JohnnyL wrote: December 16th, 2019, 8:30 am
mudflap wrote: December 16th, 2019, 7:55 am
JohnnyL wrote: December 15th, 2019, 5:56 pm Changes we can make personally, to a great degree:

1. Don't wait too long to get married.

2. Live at home or with relatives.

3. Low-energy, high solar/geothermal/etc., basic houses.

4. More internet work.

5. More emphasis on self-learning/ technical colleges/ etc, online degrees.

6. Christian insurance.

7. Alternative medicine and healing.

8. Gardening, gardening, and farming.

9. Pooling resources, like the Chinese multi-generational family does.

10. No vaccines, least pharmaceuticals.

11. Limited screen, especially for younger children.

12. EMF safety, etc.

13. Exercise, playing, self-defense.

14. ?
14. Get out and stay out of debt. Even a home mortgage is unnecessary.
Big one there! I was thinking of that when I wrote #9, but failed to mention it. The Chinese rarely go into debt--they pay cash for real estate when they can; they all live together and pay off the mortgage, then save up for a big down payment or all the price of the next house, send out the married couple to buy it, then continue to do the same--everyone pays mortgage money to dad and mom until every child has a house, and they continue to do this until every child has a house paid for in cash, no loans, no interest, not "mortgage protection insurance", etc.

With a family of three children, this means they saved, on $200,000 for a house, over $1,000,000 dollars! "Oh, but we can't live with our parents and siblings after we get married!" They've been doing it for a long, long time--that's a lot of money saved.
I could never live with some of my siblings and their spouses. I would have run away. I could go in on a large amount of land and we all build our own places. As long as I didn't have to deal with all the day to day stuff.

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I'm just spitballing here, but what does everyone think of $100 Billion? Would that be enough or just a good start.
That sounds like a lot of change, but the Dakota Access Pipeline's crude oil transport (DAPL) just 3.8 miles upstream from our land is scheduled to create the very first individual Trillionaires on the planet. That's 1,000 x $1,000,000,000 = $1,000,000,000,000.

I'm not absolutely certain money will sustain the future regardless who holds it.

Spiritual and temporal skills may prove more valuable.

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LadyT wrote: December 16th, 2019, 3:31 pm
JohnnyL wrote: December 16th, 2019, 8:30 am
mudflap wrote: December 16th, 2019, 7:55 am
JohnnyL wrote: December 15th, 2019, 5:56 pm Changes we can make personally, to a great degree:

1. Don't wait too long to get married.

2. Live at home or with relatives.

3. Low-energy, high solar/geothermal/etc., basic houses.

4. More internet work.

5. More emphasis on self-learning/ technical colleges/ etc, online degrees.

6. Christian insurance.

7. Alternative medicine and healing.

8. Gardening, gardening, and farming.

9. Pooling resources, like the Chinese multi-generational family does.

10. No vaccines, least pharmaceuticals.

11. Limited screen, especially for younger children.

12. EMF safety, etc.

13. Exercise, playing, self-defense.

14. ?
14. Get out and stay out of debt. Even a home mortgage is unnecessary.
Big one there! I was thinking of that when I wrote #9, but failed to mention it. The Chinese rarely go into debt--they pay cash for real estate when they can; they all live together and pay off the mortgage, then save up for a big down payment or all the price of the next house, send out the married couple to buy it, then continue to do the same--everyone pays mortgage money to dad and mom until every child has a house, and they continue to do this until every child has a house paid for in cash, no loans, no interest, not "mortgage protection insurance", etc.

With a family of three children, this means they saved, on $200,000 for a house, over $1,000,000 dollars! "Oh, but we can't live with our parents and siblings after we get married!" They've been doing it for a long, long time--that's a lot of money saved.
I could never live with some of my siblings and their spouses. I would have run away. I could go in on a large amount of land and we all build our own places. As long as I didn't have to deal with all the day to day stuff.
Even that would work out much better than what most will have/ do. :)

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What must change to sustain our future?

Personal spiritual growth and shedding the natural man; living our life as Jesus has shown us by His wonderful example. Repenting often with a contrite spirit and real intent.

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For me, the hardest challenge is to treat members of The Church with compassion and patience when they choose to be rude and/or indifferent to those who could use encouragement and acceptance at where they are 'right now' in their personal lives.

I have a tendency to lose my love for all mankind - including Church members - when I see unkindness and judgement of others. See the irony there? I'm doing the same thing.

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buffalo_girl wrote: December 31st, 2019, 11:30 am For me, the hardest challenge is to treat members of The Church with compassion and patience when they choose to be rude and/or indifferent to those who could use encouragement and acceptance at where they are 'right now' in their personal lives.

I have a tendency to lose my love for all mankind - including Church members - when I see unkindness and judgement of others. See the irony there? I'm doing the same thing.
Hopefully, there'll be a few people in Zion. ;)

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