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Posted: **November 21st, 2019, 4:09 pm**

https://www.dailywire.com/news/walsh-a- ... benshapiro

NOVEMBER 21ST, 2019
A School Allows Boys Into The Girls Room. Parents Object But Still Send Their Kids To Class. This Is The Problem.
By Matt Walsh

I wrote yesterday about the morally abominable decision by the school board of District 211 in Illinois to allow gender-confused boys into the girls locker room and bathroom.

I linked to a striking video showing the disparate reactions of a biological boy who identifies as transgender and a biological girl after the board’s decision was announced. The boy, Nova Maday, gloats over his victory while showing no regard or concern for the girls whose privacy has just been obliterated. The girl, Julia Burca, tearfully worries that she will now have to get naked every day around boys as she gets changed for swim practice.

As I argued in my piece, only the most deranged sorts of people could possibly watch that footage and feel sympathy for the boy over the girl. All sane and decent people understand that girls deserve privacy and protection when they are getting changed and using the bathroom. Am I implying that everyone on the opposite side from me on this issue lacks sanity and decency? Yes, I certainly am. I will go even further and say that what they support is abject evil, and they are without excuse. There is no good argument for allowing boys into the girls locker room. There is no compelling reason for such a policy. All of the good arguments and compelling reasons belong to the side that seeks to protect young girls from this kind of abuse.

As my piece on this case has gotten a big reaction and been widely circulated, I’ve heard from a number of students at the school. They tell me that the environment has been tense and awkward, and many of the girls are now fearful about their lack of privacy and security. These messages raise an important question: Why the hell are the students even attending class at all? Nearly 500 people showed up at the school board meeting last week, many of them in opposition to the board’s decision. There’s obviously a lot of outrage among the parents of the children at the school. So, again, why are those parents still sending their kids? Why are parents who are (rightly) concerned about their daughters’ safety still choosing to send their daughters into that environment?

This is what I find so endlessly frustrating. The parents in these situations have an immense amount of power. They could put an end to the madness immediately — literally overnight — if they simply got together and agreed to withhold their children from class until the policy is reversed. This would force the school’s hand. They can’t operate without children to teach. They would need to come back to the table and make concessions. This is exactly the strategy that teachers use when they want some kind of institutional change to be made, and generally the tactic works for them. Why don’t parents do the same? If you’re angry and worried that the school is putting your child in jeopardy, the only reasonable, not to mention effective, response is to keep your child home. If every parent who felt the same way did the same, changes would be made in a hurry.

The same applies when boys intrude into girls sports teams. Rather than participating in the farce of a “girls” track meet where boys take home all the medals, why not pull your daughters out, collectively, and refuse to participate until those boys are sent back where they belong? Again, if every parent did this, the school would have no choice but to surrender. Or at least there’s a pretty good chance they surrender. Whereas there is no chance if you obediently go along with the program.

Would it be inconvenient to keep your kid home from school? Yes, sure, you probably have a job to worry about. Are there maybe some risks involved? Yes, I guess the school could send the cops after you if they wanted to play hardball. But if we aren’t willing to take on a little risk and inconvenience for the sake of protecting our children from this lunacy, then what’s the point? Why complain? Why object? Just shut up and do as your told. If you don’t like that plan, then stand up for yourself and your family. Fight back. Do something. Do something, for God’s sake.

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Amen.

Posted: **November 21st, 2019, 7:56 pm**

The girls' fathers otta crash the next school board meeting and beat the hell outta the school board members.

Posted: **November 22nd, 2019, 12:12 am**

EmmaLee, I agree wholeheartedly. When I lived in California, I didn't send my kids to school when they had any events that celebrated homosexuality or anything that I didn't agree with. I taught my kids to speak up and they did. I was connected politically because I was very involved in their schools, in my community and in the city.

In addition, I have always boycotted companies, products, restaurants, etc. if it went against my beliefs. I write letters, send e-mails, letters, faxes, and make phone calls to my government representatives, to companies, etc. to let them know how I feel.

I always shared why I was boycotting so that I could spread the word that we can do something about it. I don't understand how parents will not do more.

It isn't enough to just go to the Board Meetings. Although I did attend the School Board Meetings, I often had to get together with fellow parents to come up with a strategy on how to get the board to do things our way. It works! Is it easy to do? No, of course not. But the sacrifice was worth it.

I wish those parents knew just how much power they have--together. Someone needs to take the lead and get those parents to unite and make a difference. If they don't, they will regret allowing the evil to destroy their daughters.

Elva1045

Posted: **November 23rd, 2019, 1:22 pm**

I was going to start a new thread with this article, but decided it would fit nicely in this thread. I have to wonder what would prompt these 10 year old boys to do these sickening, immoral, and criminal things to these little girls? Rhetorical question, of course. They are obviously watching pornography and are getting their ideas, actions, language, and beliefs from what they are seeing on the screen. The question then becomes - where are 10 year olds getting access to porn? I know it's everywhere and access is easy these days - but do parents not have ANY control over what their 10 year old children do/watch? I find that hard to believe. And if they don't have any control, then they are indeed neglectful parents. It's also entirely possible one or more of these boys are witnessing these things, live, in their own homes - which is even more despicable, but honestly wouldn't surprise me too much.

In the end, the parent's of these young, 10 year old boys, have some culpability here, IMO. 10 is awfully young - they can't drive yet, they are still 100% dependent on their parents for everything, they shouldn't have access to the internet unsupervised (including smart phones), etc. This story made me physically ill. 10 year old boys doing these things to girls out in the open, publicly, at school - just imagine what they'll be doing to girls in another year or two, in less public settings. But some people don't like to blame porn, and even try to make excuses for it, or justify it - lesson its culpability. That is equally sickening. The more I think about it, the more I believe the parents of these boys have at least equal responsibility for what happened to these girls. So yes, again we have parents neglecting their duty.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/10-yr-old ... 270%20days

NOVEMBER 22, 2019
10-year-old charged with a sexual offense in disturbing incident at Maryland elementary school
And parents are angry they weren't informed by the district
MARTIN BUREAU

A 10-year-old boy has been charged with a sexual offense after an assault during recess at a Maryland elementary school.

Charles County Sheriff's Office confirmed the charges of fourth-degree sex offense and second-degree assault against the child.

NBC News 4 spoke to the parents of two of three girls who said they were attacked by three boys at the Gale-Bailey Elementary School.

The incident allegedly occurred on October 29.

Charles County Public Schools said the attack happened as the children were playing tag. One of the boys said sexually inappropriate things to the girls, and also made sexually inappropriate motions.

A father of one of the girls told NBC News that his daughter cries herself to sleep as a result of the assault.

"They told her that they were going to rape her, that they were going to f**k her hard, and then they simulated that over her clothes," he said.

The district said one boy wrapped his arms around one of the girls.

The girls reported the assault to a teacher and an investigation was begun by school officials and a school resource officer.

Some parents said they were upset that they heard about the incident through talking to each other instead of being informed by the district.

"I was very disappointed that the school did not notify us of the incident that took place here," said Marian Toroaka, a parent.

"We just need to know it happened so that we can take the precautions to keep our kids safe," she added.

Posted: **November 23rd, 2019, 1:38 pm**

I am aware of homes where both parents work during the day, and hence cannot supervise their children. Thinking back to 70+ years ago I remember a few of my 9 & 10 year old school mates engaging in that behavior, and it got worse as they got to 14 - 15 - 16 and older. And I also remember certain boy-crazy girls who encouraged that behavior.

Posted: **November 23rd, 2019, 2:10 pm**

lundbaek wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2019, 1:38 pm I am aware of homes where both parents work during the day, and hence cannot supervise their children.

Isn't that neglect then? Leaving a 10 year old child by themselves for any appreciable amount of time is neglect, IMO. Especially in this day and age when they can so easily get into serious trouble in no time at all. 20+ years ago, it may have been alright to leave a 10 year old alone for a short amount of time - but that is not the case today, obviously.

Thinking back to 70+ years ago I remember a few of my 9 & 10 year old school mates engaging in that behavior, and it got worse as they got to 14 - 15 - 16 and older.

Really?! You remember little 9 and 10 year old boys telling little girls that they are going to "rape them and f**k them hard", and then they acted out those very things ON the girls (on top of clothing)?? My goodness. I must have lived a sheltered life growing up and attending public school in Phoenix, Arizona, in the 70's-80's - as I sure don't remember any boys doing such things ever. There were some crude comments in high school, and other such things - but I don't recall any threats of rape, etc. coming from boys of any age in the huge public schools I attended.

And I also remember certain boy-crazy girls who encouraged that behavior.

You remember girls wanting to be threatened with rape, etc.? Because that's what we're talking about here (did you read the article?). We're not talking about silly or snotty behavior - we're talking about threats of sexual assault and physical harm - criminal acts. You must have grown up in a VERY rough area.

Posted: **November 23rd, 2019, 3:15 pm**

I grew up mostly on an island on the East coast about 12 miles N.E. of Boston. Most of my school mates were still reasonable well behaved in 5th grade. But looking back I recall signs of perversion in a few of the boys and girls. By 9th grade, among the ones that showed those symptoms were one boy who in 9th grade attempted to at least molest a younger neighbor girl and was spared incarceration by his widowed mother moving the family to another town, there was one "shotgun marriage", and one girl was raped by the same guy who impregnated a girl. All those kids had "stay-at-home" mothers. None came from single-parent homes. And there's likely much that I was not aware of.

I our family we have a DIL who could stay at home and support her children, but insists on working even though our son earns adequate bucks to support the family. It is obvious our DIL does not like parenting or homemaking. And safe to say that money burns a hole in her purse. A couple of years ago she was running her own business and ran up so much debt that they are in bankruptcy and must pay $1800 a month. Everybody else's fault, of course.

Posted: **November 24th, 2019, 12:16 pm**

Maybe we should have a parent discussion forum!

Posted: **November 24th, 2019, 12:34 pm**

School districts are in FEAR of being sued; unfortunately, the fear goes down if the lawsuit is not politically correct.

Posted: **November 24th, 2019, 2:35 pm**

Jonesy wrote: ↑November 24th, 2019, 12:16 pm Maybe we should have a parent discussion forum!

That's not a bad idea, but it would probably be taken over by those without children giving advice to those of us with children - kind of like whenever a woman starts a female-centric thread on the "Sisters" sub-forum, every thread is taken over by men, lol.

Posted: **November 24th, 2019, 2:36 pm**

lundbaek wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2019, 3:15 pm I grew up mostly on an island on the East coast about 12 miles N.E. of Boston. Most of my school mates were still reasonable well behaved in 5th grade. But looking back I recall signs of perversion in a few of the boys and girls. By 9th grade, among the ones that showed those symptoms were one boy who in 9th grade attempted to at least molest a younger neighbor girl and was spared incarceration by his widowed mother moving the family to another town, there was one "shotgun marriage", and one girl was raped by the same guy who impregnated a girl. All those kids had "stay-at-home" mothers. None came from single-parent homes. And there's likely much that I was not aware of.

I our family we have a DIL who could stay at home and support her children, but insists on working even though our son earns adequate bucks to support the family. It is obvious our DIL does not like parenting or homemaking. And safe to say that money burns a hole in her purse. A couple of years ago she was running her own business and ran up so much debt that they are in bankruptcy and must pay $1800 a month for 5 years. Everybody else's fault, of course.

Posted: **November 24th, 2019, 3:10 pm**

Sometimes you can't stop the blizzard. You have to go inside and start up the fire and keep your family warm and let the outside world freeze. Once the freeze is over, then people will warm up. But as far as this homosexual agenda goes, it may take a generation of getting it wrong before people can conclude that their faith in such principles became a bitter reward.

Posted: **November 24th, 2019, 3:21 pm**

Juliet wrote: ↑November 24th, 2019, 3:10 pm Sometimes you can't stop the blizzard. You have to go inside and start up the fire and keep your family warm and let the outside world freeze.

That's about where my husband and I are at this point - our whole family, actually. We just got word that our adult kids who have been working in the Boise area are moving back here to the state we and our other young adult kids live in. We could not be more thrilled!! We also firmly believe their moving back here is for much greater reasons than the peripheral ones being talked about (if I can put it that way). You are right - the world is about to freeze - and I'm beyond thankful and humbled that our entire family will finally be together again before the blizzard is in full-swing (sorry to be personal, but when I read your post - it hit me like a ton of bricks that that is exactly what is happening to my family, and it's a God-given thing, trust me!).

Once the freeze is over, then people will warm up. But as far as this homosexual agenda goes, it may take a generation of getting it wrong before people can conclude that their faith in such principles became a bitter reward.

Fully agree. I just mourn for all the people (and their innocent loved ones) who will suffer tremendously because of it (and porn, etc. etc.) before the learning takes place.

Posted: **November 24th, 2019, 3:35 pm**

I'm really happy for you, Emmalee.

Posted: **November 27th, 2019, 9:08 am**

Update on the very disturbing story of the 10-year old boy committing a sexual assault -

https://www.theblaze.com/news/elementar ... 270%20days

NOVEMBER 26, 2019
Principal and vice principal removed over disturbing sexual assault incident at Maryland elementary school - "There was no game of tag."
FRED DUFOUR

Parents of children at an elementary school are outraged over a disturbing sexual assault incident, and the vice principal and principal were removed on Tuesday after they protested.

The incident happened at Gale-Bailey Elementary School in Marbury, Maryland.

In the school's version of events, 3 boys were playing tag with 3 girls on the playground when one 10-year-old boy made sexual comments and simulated a sexual act on one of the boys. Another boy wrapped his arms around one girl.

But the father of one of the victims claims that the actual incident was far worse.

"There was no game of tag," said the father, who is unidentified to protect the victim, his daughter.

"These boys jumped off a piece of playground equipment, forcibly forced the girls into a colored tube that they have on the playground. So it was just so far off from what happened and they're trying to cover their backsides plain and simple," he told FOX-5 D.C.

He claimed that the girls had asked a group of teachers for help before the attack, but that their requests were ignored.

He also said that he wasn't informed about the attack until his daughter came home in tears.

Law enforcement officials confirmed that the 10-year-old boy was charged with 4th Degree Sex Offense and 2nd Degree Assault, and removed from the school.

On Monday, outraged parents protested at the school and demanded that school officials be fired over their actions.

On Tuesday, both the vice principal and the principal were replaced, according to an email obtained by FOX-5.

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