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Futuristic AI's Discuss BoM Translation Process

Posted: November 5th, 2019, 1:06 am
by Chip
This is the most surreal church video I've ever seen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKiJOAWNyAk

Re: Futuristic AI's Discuss BoM Translation Process

Posted: November 5th, 2019, 10:32 am
by mes5464
I have no problem with it.

Re: Futuristic AI's Discuss BoM Translation Process

Posted: November 5th, 2019, 1:31 pm
by mudflap
click bait title?

I thought it was going to be actual AI's actually discussing (and getting confused) over the authorship of the BOM.

~disappointed.

Re: Futuristic AI's Discuss BoM Translation Process

Posted: November 5th, 2019, 1:47 pm
by nightlight
Chip wrote: November 5th, 2019, 1:06 am This is the most surreal church video I've ever seen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKiJOAWNyAk
Why?

Lol is it as sureal as Peter pulling money out of a fish's mouth?

I'm confused at your confusion...

Re: Futuristic AI's Discuss BoM Translation Process

Posted: November 5th, 2019, 2:20 pm
by nvr
The urim and thummim and seerstone were just tools or focal points for faith. In the end, Joseph would have developed faith enough to receive revelation without the tools. The translation process wasn't him literally learning reformed Egyptian or Hebrew and translating line by line - he didn't have that education - it was a miraculous revelatory event.

Re: Futuristic AI's Discuss BoM Translation Process

Posted: November 5th, 2019, 3:05 pm
by Chip
Sorry to anyone who finds the thread title misleading. I maintain that they are bloodless AI's programmed to gaslight GenX'ers.

It's the deception that is the problem, not the seer stone, so much. I could spend a lot of time dissecting all the layered madness in that video, but I'm kind of getting past that inclination. People can see for themselves, if they want to. Some things going on are just not, haven't been, and never will be right before God. It doesn't take a General Authority to discern it.

Re: Futuristic AI's Discuss BoM Translation Process

Posted: November 5th, 2019, 4:57 pm
by Kaarno
Chip wrote: November 5th, 2019, 3:05 pm Sorry to anyone who finds the thread title misleading. I maintain that they are bloodless AI's programmed to gaslight GenX'ers.

It's the deception that is the problem, not the seer stone, so much. I could spend a lot of time dissecting all the layered madness in that video, but I'm kind of getting past that inclination. People can see for themselves, if they want to. Some things going on are just not, haven't been, and never will be right before God. It doesn't take a General Authority to discern it.
Please dissect. Granted it seems scripted and the bald dude is a bad actor but besides that, I am not following you.

Re: Futuristic AI's Discuss BoM Translation Process

Posted: November 5th, 2019, 5:31 pm
by nvr
Chip wrote: November 5th, 2019, 3:05 pm Sorry to anyone who finds the thread title misleading. I maintain that they are bloodless AI's programmed to gaslight GenX'ers.

It's the deception that is the problem, not the seer stone, so much. I could spend a lot of time dissecting all the layered madness in that video, but I'm kind of getting past that inclination. People can see for themselves, if they want to. Some things going on are just not, haven't been, and never will be right before God. It doesn't take a General Authority to discern it.
It's the uninterrupted, ceaseless eye contact that gives them the programmed AI vibe.
What they are saying is essentially true - but I think people focus too much on the actual artifacts. Joseph could have been using any random rock or a button or whatever - the key is developing faith to receive revelation for interpreting the scriptural story told. With Abraham, I think the papyrus didn't have to literally be the writings of Abraham, but these would provide the spark and inspiration for Joseph to seek and get the revelation for the book of Abraham.

Re: Futuristic AI's Discuss BoM Translation Process

Posted: November 5th, 2019, 5:53 pm
by nightlight
Chip wrote: November 5th, 2019, 3:05 pm Sorry to anyone who finds the thread title misleading. I maintain that they are bloodless AI's programmed to gaslight GenX'ers.

It's the deception that is the problem, not the seer stone, so much. I could spend a lot of time dissecting all the layered madness in that video, but I'm kind of getting past that inclination. People can see for themselves, if they want to. Some things going on are just not, haven't been, and never will be right before God. It doesn't take a General Authority to discern it.
Seer stones aren't right before God...??? Really???
Caution bro....

as if God doesn't write on rocks and give it to man.....oh wait...that's exactly what happened to Moses.

Careful what you judge as right before god..everything is not as it seems.

Are you the judge of what miracles are possible......?????

And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

5And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. 12And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? 13Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

Peter Preaches to the Crowd

14But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: 15For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. 16But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

19And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

20The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

Re: Futuristic AI's Discuss BoM Translation Process

Posted: November 5th, 2019, 5:55 pm
by nightlight
"Seeing it is but the third hour of the day"

Lolololol ^^^^ :)

Re: Futuristic AI's Discuss BoM Translation Process

Posted: November 18th, 2019, 11:15 pm
by Chip
nightlight wrote: November 5th, 2019, 5:53 pm
Chip wrote: November 5th, 2019, 3:05 pm Sorry to anyone who finds the thread title misleading. I maintain that they are bloodless AI's programmed to gaslight GenX'ers.

It's the deception that is the problem, not the seer stone, so much. I could spend a lot of time dissecting all the layered madness in that video, but I'm kind of getting past that inclination. People can see for themselves, if they want to. Some things going on are just not, haven't been, and never will be right before God. It doesn't take a General Authority to discern it.
Seer stones aren't right before God...??? Really???
Caution bro....

as if God doesn't write on rocks and give it to man.....oh wait...that's exactly what happened to Moses.

Careful what you judge as right before god..everything is not as it seems.

Are you the judge of what miracles are possible......?????

And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

5And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. 12And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? 13Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

Peter Preaches to the Crowd

14But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: 15For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. 16But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

19And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

20The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
I wasn't referring to the seer stone, but how they're pretending that the seer stone is THE THING that people need to get over, when THE REAL ISSUE is that they carried on with the gold plates story for so long, before being forced FROM WITHOUT to acknowledge the seer stone business. God doesn't do stuff like that, but men do, who can never honestly admit that they practiced to deceive people. They'll just let you suppose it was God, somehow, and now the truth has just providentially fallen into our collective lap, so it's time to deal with it. Do any of YOU choose to conduct your dealings with your fellow men like that?

Re: Futuristic AI's Discuss BoM Translation Process

Posted: November 19th, 2019, 6:58 am
by nightlight
Chip wrote: November 18th, 2019, 11:15 pm
nightlight wrote: November 5th, 2019, 5:53 pm
Chip wrote: November 5th, 2019, 3:05 pm Sorry to anyone who finds the thread title misleading. I maintain that they are bloodless AI's programmed to gaslight GenX'ers.

It's the deception that is the problem, not the seer stone, so much. I could spend a lot of time dissecting all the layered madness in that video, but I'm kind of getting past that inclination. People can see for themselves, if they want to. Some things going on are just not, haven't been, and never will be right before God. It doesn't take a General Authority to discern it.
Seer stones aren't right before God...??? Really???
Caution bro....

as if God doesn't write on rocks and give it to man.....oh wait...that's exactly what happened to Moses.

Careful what you judge as right before god..everything is not as it seems.

Are you the judge of what miracles are possible......?????

And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

5And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. 12And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? 13Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

Peter Preaches to the Crowd

14But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: 15For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. 16But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

19And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

20The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
I wasn't referring to the seer stone, but how they're pretending that the seer stone is THE THING that people need to get over, when THE REAL ISSUE is that they carried on with the gold plates story for so long, before being forced FROM WITHOUT to acknowledge the seer stone business. God doesn't do stuff like that, but men do, who can never honestly admit that they practiced to deceive people. They'll just let you suppose it was God, somehow, and now the truth has just providentially fallen into our collective lap, so it's time to deal with it. Do any of YOU choose to conduct your dealings with your fellow men like that?
Lol give me a break. I hope you've never lied, bro.

Think in context of situation... they were a people running for their lives. They probably felt they needed people to cling to eachother...because.....when a group of people are driver and hunted, its natural for them to creat a strict hierarchy among eachother. It's called survival...hence our past shortcomings. They shouldn't have lied but they did, it truly means nothing to me. I know the Book of Mormon is what it claims to be, I know JS is what he claimed to be.

What's your true argument? You threw the baby out with the bath water and now seek to teach others to do same....or am I wrong?

You are operating under a false dichotomy"Men of the church lie.....so....the church is a lie!!!"

Re: Futuristic AI's Discuss BoM Translation Process

Posted: November 19th, 2019, 11:16 am
by oneClimbs
Here is my rendition of the Interpreters with some references.

http://oneclimbs.com/2013/03/18/the-nep ... erpreters/