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I like Chuck Baldwin but he's over dramatic on this point.
I'm sorry you're so pained by the lack of the country in the title. I think I get it. It really bugs me when I read a news story and have a hard time determining where it all went down.Elizabeth wrote: ↑October 21st, 2019, 10:42 pm Title of thread still not changed
As far as I am aware this Forum is not exclusively for Americans.
Lack of knowledge and acknowledgement of any world outside of the US, by many Americans, is tiring, aggravating and annoying to many in the world, including myself.
The following quote shows clearly that it is the United States of America which is being referred to. Obviously, this should be reflected in the title of this thread.
"WORCESTER, Mass. — President M. Russell Ballard urged members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in New England on Sunday evening to “join a new movement” by inviting their neighbors, colleagues and friends on social media to pray for the United States, its leaders and its families.
“Our nation was founded on prayer, it was preserved by prayer and we need prayer again,” said the acting president of the church’s Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. “I plead with you this evening to pray for this country, for our leaders, for our people and for the families that live in this great nation founded by God.”
Unfortunately Trump has been supporting red flag laws. I will likely vote for Trump, but I DO. NOT. LIKE. his support of Red Flag laws.Art Vandelay wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2019, 4:31 pmI like Chuck Baldwin but he's over dramatic on this point.
"We can't make it harder for good, solid, law-abiding citizens to protect themselves. We will always uphold the right to self-defense, and we will always uphold the Second Amendment, we will." -Trump
ori wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2019, 5:02 pmI'm sorry you're so pained by the lack of the country in the title. I think I get it. It really bugs me when I read a news story and have a hard time determining where it all went down.Elizabeth wrote: ↑October 21st, 2019, 10:42 pm Title of thread still not changed
As far as I am aware this Forum is not exclusively for Americans.
Lack of knowledge and acknowledgement of any world outside of the US, by many Americans, is tiring, aggravating and annoying to many in the world, including myself.
The following quote shows clearly that it is the United States of America which is being referred to. Obviously, this should be reflected in the title of this thread.
"WORCESTER, Mass. — President M. Russell Ballard urged members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in New England on Sunday evening to “join a new movement” by inviting their neighbors, colleagues and friends on social media to pray for the United States, its leaders and its families.
“Our nation was founded on prayer, it was preserved by prayer and we need prayer again,” said the acting president of the church’s Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. “I plead with you this evening to pray for this country, for our leaders, for our people and for the families that live in this great nation founded by God.”
Are there not online Australia-centric forums populated primarily by Australians, who fail to call out that all/most of the posts have to do with Australia?
Are there not online UK-centric forums populated primarily by UK citizens, who fail to call out that all/most of the posts have to do with the UK?
Is it not natural that a forum (this one) whose website is served from a server in the U.S. (source: https://check-host.net/ip-info?host=ldsfreedomforum.com ), whose posts are posted primarily by citizens of the U.S. (guessing, but I think it's probably a fairly safe claim to make), has a lot of U.S.-centric content?
I'm asking, because being an American I don't actually know. If "no" is the correct answer to my questions, maybe there is still a specific reason why the behavior you lament is the way it is? I've always wondered why people in other countries track the U.S. in ways that people in the U.S. typically don't ever do in the reverse -- (I don't imagine myself being that interested in the U.S. if I were born, raised, and lived in Kenya, for example) but I suppose it's probably because the U.S. is the most powerful country in the world.
I'm rambling but I guess all of this is to point out: there are reasons people are the way they are. We aren't trying to be rude, or dismissive. Please be patient with us. Some of us can learn to be more globally-friendly, but I guess it's just a fairly innocent cultural thing so please be patient.
Speaking of cultural attitudes about where one lives -- have you spoken to many Texans?
GeeR wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2019, 4:04 pm
In a talk W. Cleon Skousen gave at BYU many years ago, he gave an answer on how to wake-up people to our awful situation, said he:
"And it's a bit tragic because it isn't a question of whether you are a Democrat or Republican. It's going to take both parties to beat this conspiracy [Secret Combination]. I want to tell you it is so big and so well entrenched that we have a problem when we inform students of how serious it is because they go into a state of shock. They say, "What can we do?" and they mean, "When do we meet at the armory?"
"Actually, this is an educational problem. We don't meet at the armory. We can beat this thing by education and exposure."
"The saddest epitaph carved in memory of a vanished liberty, is that it was lost, lost by its possessors who failed to stretch forth a saving hand while yet there was time." Gorge Sutherland
Now is the time to get the word out "while yet there is time.” So send this message to your friends and family members today!
We can get the word out of Donald Trumps’ betrayal to the 2nd amendment by showing his words do not match his actions. He’s a flip-flopper like Mitt Romney! Here he gives lip service to the 2nd amendment like: "We can't make it harder for good, solid, law-abiding citizens to protect themselves. We will always uphold the right to self-defense, and we will always uphold the Second Amendment, we will." –Trumplundbaek wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2019, 5:26 pm Dr.Skousen had it right, I believe.
So how do we get the word out about what is really going on.? How do we educate other LDS members about the secret combinatiions and the new world order conspiracy.?GeeR wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2019, 4:04 pm
In a talk W. Cleon Skousen gave at BYU many years ago, he gave an answer on how to wake-up people to our awful situation, said he:
"And it's a bit tragic because it isn't a question of whether you are a Democrat or Republican. It's going to take both parties to beat this conspiracy [Secret Combination]. I want to tell you it is so big and so well entrenched that we have a problem when we inform students of how serious it is because they go into a state of shock. They say, "What can we do?" and they mean, "When do we meet at the armory?"
"Actually, this is an educational problem. We don't meet at the armory. We can beat this thing by education and exposure."
"The saddest epitaph carved in memory of a vanished liberty, is that it was lost, lost by its possessors who failed to stretch forth a saving hand while yet there was time." Gorge Sutherland
Now is the time to get the word out "while yet there is time.” So send this message to your friends and family members today!
lundbaek wrote: ↑October 21st, 2019, 10:31 am I got the following text from a friend who's daughter lives in Alexandria, VA today and thought it was worth sharing:
"We had stake conf this morning . . . later in the afternoon, we had regional conference with Pres. Ballard and Elder Christopherson broadcast from Boston, Massachusetts. Pres. Ballard asked us to pray for our nation after giving a 'historical colonial America talk' and included Nephi's vision of this happening. He said multiple times pray for the Nation, this country, our leaders, and tell everyone you know to do the same. That this Nation was founded on prayer. That we need to stand boldly for truth. And righteousness. That we need to have leaders like Abraham Lincoln and George Washington - God fearing men . . today's leaders should forsake evil and cleave unto God. Because we are not immune to destruction.
Ask how your ancestors came to this country or if you're immigrants how did the Lord guide your hand to this place?
The second piece was a thought I liked: Finding the purpose of what you (we) need to do with all you (we) have been given. And recognize the Lord's hand in our lives.
He showed a deep respect, admiration and love for his family ancestors and early colonists in history and connection to NE US. It felt deeply personal. And interesting how much he talked about praying for our Nation because it's at a crossroads (I think he said those words). He seemed to be yearning for righteousness in leadership for the direction of the country to get it together under God - like repent ALL you prideful politicians and ask God to lead you to get important work done. "
I hope we all will Pray for our nation - pray hard and tell others to pray.
I think the only way for us as a people to remove the secret combinations is modeled in Alma 46. We would need a modern day title of liberty event unless we get divine intervention.lundbaek wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2019, 9:10 pm I'd like to give at least a partial answer to my earlier question (above): "How do we educate other LDS members about the secret combinations and the new world order conspiracy?"
Latter-day Saints have been warned of "secret combinations" (both singular and multiple) by latter-day prophets and apostles. But as far as I know, only the Prophet Joseph Smith and the ancient prophet Moroni is the only prophets who actually who actually gave us direction in dealing with them. (Ether 8: & D&C 123:12-15 respectively). If I've missed any, please feel free to so advise.
As to our actions, I think President Nelson has urged us to seek diligently personal revelation. And this is certainly one area in which we would do well to seek guidance.
It sounds like Elder Ballard is drinking the "Abraham Lincoln was a good Christian and a conservative President" kool aid.lundbaek wrote: ↑October 21st, 2019, 10:31 am I got the following text from a friend who's daughter lives in Alexandria, VA today and thought it was worth sharing:
"We had stake conf this morning . . . later in the afternoon, we had regional conference with Pres. Ballard and Elder Christopherson broadcast from Boston, Massachusetts. Pres. Ballard asked us to pray for our nation after giving a 'historical colonial America talk' and included Nephi's vision of this happening. He said multiple times pray for the Nation, this country, our leaders, and tell everyone you know to do the same. That this Nation was founded on prayer. That we need to stand boldly for truth. And righteousness. That we need to have leaders like Abraham Lincoln and George Washington - God fearing men . . today's leaders should forsake evil and cleave unto God. Because we are not immune to destruction.
Ask how your ancestors came to this country or if you're immigrants how did the Lord guide your hand to this place?
The second piece was a thought I liked: Finding the purpose of what you (we) need to do with all you (we) have been given. And recognize the Lord's hand in our lives.
He showed a deep respect, admiration and love for his family ancestors and early colonists in history and connection to NE US. It felt deeply personal. And interesting how much he talked about praying for our Nation because it's at a crossroads (I think he said those words). He seemed to be yearning for righteousness in leadership for the direction of the country to get it together under God - like repent ALL you prideful politicians and ask God to lead you to get important work done. "
I hope we all will Pray for our nation - pray hard and tell others to pray.
And replace Trump with???????GeeR wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2019, 7:24 pmWe can get the word out of Donald Trumps’ betrayal to the 2nd amendment by showing his words do not match his actions. He’s a flip-flopper like Mitt Romney! Here he gives lip service to the 2nd amendment like: "We can't make it harder for good, solid, law-abiding citizens to protect themselves. We will always uphold the right to self-defense, and we will always uphold the Second Amendment, we will." –Trumplundbaek wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2019, 5:26 pm Dr.Skousen had it right, I believe.
So how do we get the word out about what is really going on.? How do we educate other LDS members about the secret combinatiions and the new world order conspiracy.?GeeR wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2019, 4:04 pm
In a talk W. Cleon Skousen gave at BYU many years ago, he gave an answer on how to wake-up people to our awful situation, said he:
"And it's a bit tragic because it isn't a question of whether you are a Democrat or Republican. It's going to take both parties to beat this conspiracy [Secret Combination]. I want to tell you it is so big and so well entrenched that we have a problem when we inform students of how serious it is because they go into a state of shock. They say, "What can we do?" and they mean, "When do we meet at the armory?"
"Actually, this is an educational problem. We don't meet at the armory. We can beat this thing by education and exposure."
"The saddest epitaph carved in memory of a vanished liberty, is that it was lost, lost by its possessors who failed to stretch forth a saving hand while yet there was time." Gorge Sutherland
Now is the time to get the word out "while yet there is time.” So send this message to your friends and family members today!
And here his actions:
First of all Trump nominated William Barr for Attorney General replacing Jeff Sessions. Barr went on record under oath supporting gun confiscation, said he: “I think we need to push along the ERPOs [gun confiscation] so that we have these ‘Red Flag’ laws to supplement the use of background checks [gun registration] ... this is the single most important thing I think we can do in the gun control area...”
-- Attorney General nominee William Barr, 1/15/19
William Barr was in charge of overseeing the execution of American citizens at Ruby Ridge.
Trump scolded Republican congressmen for wanting to include national reciprocity for concealed carry and instead supported the Joe Manchin (D-WV)/Pat Toomey (R-PA) gun control bill. This bill will outlaw the private sale of firearms at gun shows and the private sale of firearms period.
This is the exact same universal background check legislation that was proposed by Barack Obama in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook shootings in 2013. And it is the very same bill that was defeated by the DEMOCRAT Senate that same year.
Trump also wants to raise the age for all gun purchases to 21, add “mental health” restrictions to firearm background checks, and bolstering the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. He will also back the STOP School Violence Act, which gives the Justice Department grants for preventing school violence (whatever the heck that means) and get rid of “bump stocks” and other firearm “modifiers.” Trump said that bump stocks “will be gone shortly.”
But Donald Trump took the cake in the disdain for constitutional government department when he told lawmakers that guns should be confiscated from people without any due process.
The Hill reports: “President Trump on Wednesday voiced support for confiscating guns from certain individuals deemed to be dangerous, even if it violates due process rights.
‘I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,’ Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.
“‘Take the guns first, go through due process second,’ Trump said.
“Trump was responding to comments from Vice President Pence that families and local law enforcement should have more tools to report potentially dangerous individuals with weapons.
“‘Allow due process so no one’s rights are trampled, but the ability to go to court, obtain an order and then collect not only the firearms but any weapons,’ Pence said.
"‘Or, Mike, take the firearms first, and then go to court,’ Trump responded.”
I agree with Chuck Baldwin when he said: “Donald Trump is not only a traitor to the Second Amendment; he is a traitor to the U.S. Constitution, republican government, and every sacred principle enshrined in our Bill of Rights.
And if the NRA, conservatives, Christians, Republicans, and, yes, Trump supporters, do not get off of their butts (and snap out of their hypnotic love affair with who they think Trump is) and start SCREAMING their opposition to these measures, Trump and the GOP Congress are going to pass the most egregious gun control laws in history--laws that no Democrat administration or Congress could ever hope to pass.”
Yes, get the word out that Trump is a flip-flop and that the 2nd amendment is the thread hanging from the U.S. Constitution of which the Prophet Joseph Smith prophesied of. Once the second amendment is trashed all Americans rights mentioned in the Constitution will fall one after another in succession like dominos.
Send out this information via e-mail, twitter and facebook to family and friends and ask them to send out this information to their family and friends—help make it to go viral. Tell them that they are fulfilling the scriptural injunction in the Doctrine and Covenants.
"Therefore, that we should waste and wear out our lives in bringing to light all the hidden things of darkness, wherein we know them; and they are truly manifest from heaven—
These should then be attended to with great earnestness.
Let no man count them as small things; for there is much which lieth in futurity, pertaining to the saints, which depends upon these things.
You know, brethren, that a very large ship is benefited very much by a very small helm in the time of a storm, by being kept workways with the wind and the waves.
Therefore, dearly beloved brethren, let us cheerfully do all things that lie in our power; and then may we stand still, with the utmost assurance, to see the salvation of God, and for his arm to be revealed."
D&C 123:13-17
It seems fairly obvious that the leaders, most members, the Deseret News, et al, would have preferred Hillary Clinton to have won in 2016. Such is the state of things today, sadly. In the end it doesn't really matter who occupies the White House, as the toilet on this heaven-sent experiment in freedom and liberty was irrevocably flushed decades ago. All prophesied in the scriptures, so shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. Do what you can for your families, and focus on the Savior and the joy only he can bring.
This all happened within a day's drive of the US border.The forces that emerged were in the literal sense awesome and awful. Heavy weaponry that would be familiar on any Iraqi, Syrian, or Yemeni battlefield was brought to bear. More and worse: custom-built armored vehicles, designed and built to make a Sahel-warfare technical look like an amateur’s weekend kit job, were rolled out for their combat debut. Most critically, all this hardware was manned by men with qualities the Mexican Army largely lacks: training, tactical proficiency, and motivation.
Then the coup de grace: as the Chapo sons’ forces engaged in direct combat with their own national military, kill squads went into action across Culiacán, slaughtering the families of soldiers engaged in the streets.
"We must also be concerned at recent official expressions that would narrow the field of activities protected by the free exercise of religion. Thus, when President Obama used the words freedom of worship instead of free exercise of religion, a writer for the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty sounded this warning:
Thank you for that. It's good to know one of them gets it.Art Vandelay wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 9:48 am*snip*
transcript is here-
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... University
This video may be recent, but the actions and equipment are not new to the cartels. It has been this way for at least a couple of decades.h_p wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 8:14 am After seeing what's been happening in Culiacan Mexico recently, I'm praying for the Mexican people. The drug cartels just showed their true power to the world. They're literally a modern-day Gadianton robber band, complete with armored vehicles, .50 caliber machine guns, anti-tank weapons and a complete lack of human decency.
Vision wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 7:24 amAnd replace Trump with???????GeeR wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2019, 7:24 pmWe can get the word out of Donald Trumps’ betrayal to the 2nd amendment by showing his words do not match his actions. He’s a flip-flopper like Mitt Romney! Here he gives lip service to the 2nd amendment like: "We can't make it harder for good, solid, law-abiding citizens to protect themselves. We will always uphold the right to self-defense, and we will always uphold the Second Amendment, we will." –Trumplundbaek wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2019, 5:26 pm Dr.Skousen had it right, I believe.
Chuck Baldwin! He ran once before in 2008 but didn't have name recognition. The only way to beat Trump as far as I can see is to write in Chuck Baldwin on the ballot. I think Trump can be defeated if word gets out and goes viral that his word doesn’t match his actions—and his actions suggest that he is out to do away with the 2nd amendment.GeeR wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2019, 4:04 pm
In a talk W. Cleon Skousen gave at BYU many years ago, he gave an answer on how to wake-up people to our awful situation, said he:
"And it's a bit tragic because it isn't a question of whether you are a Democrat or Republican. It's going to take both parties to beat this conspiracy [Secret Combination]. I want to tell you it is so big and so well entrenched that we have a problem when we inform students of how serious it is because they go into a state of shock. They say, "What can we do?" and they mean, "When do we meet at the armory?"
"Actually, this is an educational problem. We don't meet at the armory. We can beat this thing by education and exposure."
"The saddest epitaph carved in memory of a vanished liberty, is that it was lost, lost by its possessors who failed to stretch forth a saving hand while yet there was time." Gorge Sutherland
Now is the time to get the word out "while yet there is time.” So send this message to your friends and family members today!
I was outraged when I saw this video by Pastor Chuck Baldwin on Trump. If I was outraged because I'm a lover of the U.S. Constitution and enjoy what limited freedoms I have under its umbrella, I'm not about to roll over and just say "Oh well, such is politics." I was manipulated and tricked by Trump so I'm not about to let him get away with duping me and jeopardizing my life and the lives of my family--we have to speak up on such an important subject. We have to get the word out.
I'm taking it personal and everybody else in America that was duped by him should take it personal and send a strong message that such trickery will not be tolerated. All people who love their Constitutional rights and freedoms should be outraged and desire to be educated on the merits of Pastor Chuck Baldwin so they can send back to the criminals in Washington that their day is coming when "the slaves will rise up against their [Gadianton] masters." (D&C 87:4)
So how do we get the word out about what is really going on.? How do we educate other LDS members about the secret combinatiions and the new world order conspiracy.?
And here his actions:
First of all Trump nominated William Barr for Attorney General replacing Jeff Sessions. Barr went on record under oath supporting gun confiscation, said he: “I think we need to push along the ERPOs [gun confiscation] so that we have these ‘Red Flag’ laws to supplement the use of background checks [gun registration] ... this is the single most important thing I think we can do in the gun control area...”
-- Attorney General nominee William Barr, 1/15/19
William Barr was in charge of overseeing the execution of American citizens at Ruby Ridge.
Trump scolded Republican congressmen for wanting to include national reciprocity for concealed carry and instead supported the Joe Manchin (D-WV)/Pat Toomey (R-PA) gun control bill. This bill will outlaw the private sale of firearms at gun shows and the private sale of firearms period.
This is the exact same universal background check legislation that was proposed by Barack Obama in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook shootings in 2013. And it is the very same bill that was defeated by the DEMOCRAT Senate that same year.
Trump also wants to raise the age for all gun purchases to 21, add “mental health” restrictions to firearm background checks, and bolstering the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. He will also back the STOP School Violence Act, which gives the Justice Department grants for preventing school violence (whatever the heck that means) and get rid of “bump stocks” and other firearm “modifiers.” Trump said that bump stocks “will be gone shortly.”
But Donald Trump took the cake in the disdain for constitutional government department when he told lawmakers that guns should be confiscated from people without any due process.
The Hill reports: “President Trump on Wednesday voiced support for confiscating guns from certain individuals deemed to be dangerous, even if it violates due process rights.
‘I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,’ Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.
“‘Take the guns first, go through due process second,’ Trump said.
“Trump was responding to comments from Vice President Pence that families and local law enforcement should have more tools to report potentially dangerous individuals with weapons.
“‘Allow due process so no one’s rights are trampled, but the ability to go to court, obtain an order and then collect not only the firearms but any weapons,’ Pence said.
"‘Or, Mike, take the firearms first, and then go to court,’ Trump responded.”
I agree with Chuck Baldwin when he said: “Donald Trump is not only a traitor to the Second Amendment; he is a traitor to the U.S. Constitution, republican government, and every sacred principle enshrined in our Bill of Rights.
And if the NRA, conservatives, Christians, Republicans, and, yes, Trump supporters, do not get off of their butts (and snap out of their hypnotic love affair with who they think Trump is) and start SCREAMING their opposition to these measures, Trump and the GOP Congress are going to pass the most egregious gun control laws in history--laws that no Democrat administration or Congress could ever hope to pass.”
Yes, get the word out that Trump is a flip-flop and that the 2nd amendment is the thread hanging from the U.S. Constitution of which the Prophet Joseph Smith prophesied of. Once the second amendment is trashed all Americans rights mentioned in the Constitution will fall one after another in succession like dominos.
Send out this information via e-mail, twitter and facebook to family and friends and ask them to send out this information to their family and friends—help make it to go viral. Tell them that they are fulfilling the scriptural injunction in the Doctrine and Covenants.
"Therefore, that we should waste and wear out our lives in bringing to light all the hidden things of darkness, wherein we know them; and they are truly manifest from heaven—
These should then be attended to with great earnestness.
Let no man count them as small things; for there is much which lieth in futurity, pertaining to the saints, which depends upon these things.
You know, brethren, that a very large ship is benefited very much by a very small helm in the time of a storm, by being kept workways with the wind and the waves.
Therefore, dearly beloved brethren, let us cheerfully do all things that lie in our power; and then may we stand still, with the utmost assurance, to see the salvation of God, and for his arm to be revealed."
D&C 123:13-17
GeeR wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 12:18 pm Chuck Baldwin! He ran once before in 2008 but didn't have name recognition. The only way to beat Trump as far as I can see is to write in Chuck Baldwin on the ballot. I think Trump can be defeated if word gets out and goes viral that his word doesn’t match his actions—and his actions suggest that he is out to do away with the 2nd amendment.
I was outraged when I saw this video by Pastor Chuck Baldwin on Trump. If I was outraged because I'm a lover of the U.S. Constitution and enjoy what limited freedoms I have under its umbrella, I'm not about to roll over and just say "Oh well, such is politics." I was manipulated and tricked by Trump so I'm not about to let him get away with duping me and jeopardizing my life and the lives of my family--we have to speak up on such an important subject. We have to get the word out.
I'm taking it personal and everybody else in America that was duped by him should take it personal and send a strong message that such trickery will not be tolerated. All people who love their Constitutional rights and freedoms should be outraged and desire to be educated on the merits of Pastor Chuck Baldwin so they can send back to the criminals in Washington that their day is coming when "the slaves will rise up against their [Gadianton] masters." (D&C 87:4)
Oh yes, I’m familiar with Dr. Carol Quigley's book Hope and Tragedy but don't leave God out of the picture who can perform miracles.Vision wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 12:39 pmGeeR wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 12:18 pm Chuck Baldwin! He ran once before in 2008 but didn't have name recognition. The only way to beat Trump as far as I can see is to write in Chuck Baldwin on the ballot. I think Trump can be defeated if word gets out and goes viral that his word doesn’t match his actions—and his actions suggest that he is out to do away with the 2nd amendment.
I was outraged when I saw this video by Pastor Chuck Baldwin on Trump. If I was outraged because I'm a lover of the U.S. Constitution and enjoy what limited freedoms I have under its umbrella, I'm not about to roll over and just say "Oh well, such is politics." I was manipulated and tricked by Trump so I'm not about to let him get away with duping me and jeopardizing my life and the lives of my family--we have to speak up on such an important subject. We have to get the word out.
I'm taking it personal and everybody else in America that was duped by him should take it personal and send a strong message that such trickery will not be tolerated. All people who love their Constitutional rights and freedoms should be outraged and desire to be educated on the merits of Pastor Chuck Baldwin so they can send back to the criminals in Washington that their day is coming when "the slaves will rise up against their [Gadianton] masters." (D&C 87:4)
You know the system is rigged in favor of the two parties right?
Although, now that I think about it, Oaks doesn't get it either. Far from. When he attacked Kentucky County Clerk Kim Davis for obeying her conscience, her Christian faith, and the scriptures, for not issuing "marriage" licenses to gays. Shame on Oaks. Perfect example of the leaders speaking out of both sides of their mouths. Prop 8 in 2008 - then in 2011 the Oaks talk you posted above - then in 2015, condemning Davis for doing what was 100% right and good and correct - then in 2017, his flaming BYU-H speech. Methinks the Church/Oaks flip-flops more than even Mitt, and that's saying something.EmmaLee wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 11:23 amThank you for that. It's good to know one of them gets it.Art Vandelay wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 9:48 am*snip*
transcript is here-
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... University
Any idea if he’s clued in like Carter was about OTEC ?GeeR wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 12:18 pm Chuck Baldwin! He ran once before in 2008 but didn't have name recognition. The only way to beat Trump as far as I can see is to write in Chuck Baldwin on the ballot. I think Trump can be defeated if word gets out and goes viral that his word doesn’t match his actions—and his actions suggest that he is out to do away with the 2nd amendment.
I was outraged when I saw this video by Pastor Chuck Baldwin on Trump. If I was outraged because I'm a lover of the U.S. Constitution and enjoy what limited freedoms I have under its umbrella, I'm not about to roll over and just say "Oh well, such is politics." I was manipulated and tricked by Trump so I'm not about to let him get away with duping me and jeopardizing my life and the lives of my family--we have to speak up on such an important subject. We have to get the word out.
I'm taking it personal and everybody else in America that was duped by him should take it personal and send a strong message that such trickery will not be tolerated. All people who love their Constitutional rights and freedoms should be outraged and desire to be educated on the merits of Pastor Chuck Baldwin so they can send back to the criminals in Washington that their day is coming when "the slaves will rise up against their [Gadianton] masters." (D&C 87:4)