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Posted: **October 1st, 2019, 8:40 am**

Point 1. Revelation 13:1-10 is tied, by language and time, to Daniel 7:2-8,17,19-21,23-25.

Daniel, looking in time from his present:

saw (vison/dream) - Daniel 7:1,2,5,6,7,9,11,13,21
Sea - Daniel 7:2,3
1,260 - Daniel 7:25
war - Daniel 7:21
saints - Daniel 7:18,21,22,25,27
books - Daniel 7:10
angels - Daniel 7:10,13,16
God (Ancient of days; Father) - Daniel 7:9,13,18,22,25,27
Son of man (Jesus; Lamb) - Daniel 7:13,14
peoples, nations, languages - Daniel 7:14,23,27
worship (times and laws of God) - Daniel 7:25
Lion - Daniel 7:4
Bear - Daniel 7:5
Leopard - Daniel 7:6
a Dreadful terrible beast - Daniel 7:7-8
seven heads [1 Lion, 1 Bear, 4 Leopard, 1 Beast] - Daniel 7:4-8,11,12,17,19,23
ten horns - Daniel 7:7-8,20,24
kingdom (kings have kingdoms, dominions, thrones, and wear crowns) - Daniel 7:4,5,6,7,8,9,12,14,17,18,22,23,24,26,27
a mouth speaking great things, the great words, mouth that spake very great things, speak great words against the most High - Daniel 7:8,11,20,25
little horn (with the mouth (and eyes of man, thus head) speaking and warring) - Daniel 7:8,11,20,21,24,25
killed - Daniel 7:11,26

John, looking in time from his present (which also covers the past):

saw (vison/dream) - Revelation 13:1,2,3
Sea - Revelation 13:1
1,260 - Revelation 13:5
war - Revelation 13:4,7
saints - Revelation 13:6,7,10
book - Revelation 13:8
angels - Revelation 13:7
God - Revelation 13:6
Lamb (Jesus) - Revelation 13:8
peoples, nations, languages - Revelation 13:3,4,7,8
worship (times and laws of God) - Revelation 13:4,8
a beast - Revelation 13:1,2,3,4
body of a leopard - Revelation 13:2
feet of a bear - Revelation 13:2
mouth of a lion - Revelation 13:2
seven heads - Revelation 13:1
ten horns - Revelation 13:1
kingdom (kings have kingdoms, dominions, thrones, and wear crowns) - Revelation 13:1,2,7
mouth speaking great things and blasphemies - Revelation 13:1,5,6
one of its heads (with the mouth (being a head, has eyes) speaking and warring) - Revelation 13:3,5,6,7
killed - Revelation 13:10

Posted: **October 1st, 2019, 10:40 am**

fountainsofwaters wrote: ↑October 1st, 2019, 8:40 am Point 1. Revelation 13:1-10 is tied, by language and time, to Daniel 7:2-8,17,19-21,23-25.

Daniel, looking in time from his present:

saw (vison/dream) - Daniel 7:1,2,5,6,7,9,11,13,21
Sea - Daniel 7:2,3
1,260 - Daniel 7:25
war - Daniel 7:21
saints - Daniel 7:18,21,22,25,27
books - Daniel 7:10
angels - Daniel 7:10,13,16
God (Ancient of days; Father) - Daniel 7:9,13,18,22,25,27
Son of man (Jesus; Lamb) - Daniel 7:13,14
peoples, nations, languages - Daniel 7:14,23,27
worship (times and laws of God) - Daniel 7:25
Lion - Daniel 7:4
Bear - Daniel 7:5
Leopard - Daniel 7:6
a Dreadful terrible beast - Daniel 7:7-8
seven heads [1 Lion, 1 Bear, 4 Leopard, 1 Beast] - Daniel 7:4-8,11,12,17,19,23
ten horns - Daniel 7:7-8,20,24
kingdom (kings have kingdoms, dominions, thrones, and wear crowns) - Daniel 7:4,5,6,7,8,9,12,14,17,18,22,23,24,26,27
a mouth speaking great things, the great words, mouth that spake very great things, speak great words against the most High - Daniel 7:8,11,20,25
little horn (with the mouth (and eyes of man, thus head) speaking and warring) - Daniel 7:8,11,20,21,24,25
killed - Daniel 7:11,26

John, looking in time from his present (which also covers the past):

saw (vison/dream) - Revelation 13:1,2,3
Sea - Revelation 13:1
1,260 - Revelation 13:5
war - Revelation 13:4,7
saints - Revelation 13:6,7,10
book - Revelation 13:8
angels - Revelation 13:7
God - Revelation 13:6
Lamb (Jesus) - Revelation 13:8
peoples, nations, languages - Revelation 13:3,4,7,8
worship (times and laws of God) - Revelation 13:4,8
a beast - Revelation 13:1,2,3,4
body of a leopard - Revelation 13:2
feet of a bear - Revelation 13:2
mouth of a lion - Revelation 13:2
seven heads - Revelation 13:1
ten horns - Revelation 13:1
kingdom (kings have kingdoms, dominions, thrones, and wear crowns) - Revelation 13:1,2,7
mouth speaking great things and blasphemies - Revelation 13:1,5,6
one of its heads (with the mouth (being a head, has eyes) speaking and warring) - Revelation 13:3,5,6,7
killed - Revelation 13:10

What have you learned or come to know about the conclusion you have formed?

Posted: **October 1st, 2019, 10:48 am**

Matchmaker wrote: ↑October 1st, 2019, 10:40 amWhat have you learned or come to know about the conclusion you have formed?

Jehovah Elohiym sees the end from the beginning, is very orderly, and that history is repeating itself, and there have been events past, which were merely a type in their natural locality to that which is taking place now spiritually and globally, as per 1 Corinthians 15:44-46. Daniel and John are brothers, even separated by some 550 (est.) years of time. And yet, even still, I am relative to them. God has told us these things that we might know the true God.

Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

Joh_13:19 Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am he.
Joh_14:29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.

The God which is true, is able to perfectly declare the future.

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