LDS Freedom Forum

drtanner wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2019, 10:57 pm

Robin Hood wrote: ↑September 30th, 2019, 4:45 pm This business about the youth of today having been held in reserve and this generation being valiant and righteous in the pre-existence erc, is exactly what my generation was told 40+ years ago.
I suspect the current youth will make a similar observation when their grandchildren are told the same.

Or perhaps one of these generations will live up to what they have been told because they "act as if"

Interesting thought from President Kimball I believe you liked that hints to something like this

“I’ve known people who have been promised in their patriarchal blessings that they would live to see the temple built and some of them are dying and haven’t seen the temple built. Do you know why? In my estimation, the Lord’s time table is directed a good deal by us. We speed up the clock or we slow the hands down and we turn them back by our activities or our procrastinations. And do you know why I think people who are actually promised that they would live to see the temple built are dying before the completion of the temple? Because we haven’t converted the Indians in large enough numbers; never shall we go to Jackson County until we have converted and brought into this church great numbers of Lamanites. Now you just as well set that down as a basic fact.”–From a copy of the December 1963 talk obtained from President Kimball’s secretary as quoted in Book of Mormon Student Manual (Salt Lake City: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 2nd ed., 1981), 427-28

Robin Hood wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2019, 11:16 pm

drtanner wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2019, 10:57 pm

Robin Hood wrote: ↑September 30th, 2019, 4:45 pm This business about the youth of today having been held in reserve and this generation being valiant and righteous in the pre-existence erc, is exactly what my generation was told 40+ years ago.
I suspect the current youth will make a similar observation when their grandchildren are told the same.

Or perhaps one of these generations will live up to what they have been told because they "act as if"

Interesting thought from President Kimball I believe you liked that hints to something like this

“I’ve known people who have been promised in their patriarchal blessings that they would live to see the temple built and some of them are dying and haven’t seen the temple built. Do you know why? In my estimation, the Lord’s time table is directed a good deal by us. We speed up the clock or we slow the hands down and we turn them back by our activities or our procrastinations. And do you know why I think people who are actually promised that they would live to see the temple built are dying before the completion of the temple? Because we haven’t converted the Indians in large enough numbers; never shall we go to Jackson County until we have converted and brought into this church great numbers of Lamanites. Now you just as well set that down as a basic fact.”–From a copy of the December 1963 talk obtained from President Kimball’s secretary as quoted in Book of Mormon Student Manual (Salt Lake City: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 2nd ed., 1981), 427-28

We don't have many Lamanites here in England, so it's over to you guys.

The only experience I have was when I visited Cardston for my son's wedding. Cardston is bordered by the Blood tribe reservation. Many Lamanites would hang around town all day doing nothing. Because no alcohol is sold in the town the natives use hairspray to get high. As a result of this and other anti-social behaviour the locals, nearly all LDS, have an extremely negative attitude towards them.
This will have to change, but I don't know how.