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GODHEAD x CLASSIC TRINITY ?.

Presentation of ideas in the form of allegory: A mode of expression or interpretation that consists in representing thoughts, ideas, qualities in figurative form.
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Figuratively we associate a GOD which is an allegorical form of "TREE". It could be the representation of an OLIVE TREE. This TREE could be the TREE that is not the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil."

But yes, symbolically it is a more precious TREE: “the TREE OF LIFE” that provides ETERNAL LIFE. When they sinned, they had forbidden the way that led to such an extraordinary tree, and guards stood in the way with a flaming sword. Allegorically such an important "tree" would allow Adam and Eve to attain immortality, becoming equal with God, but in "sin," unclean. And they would be condemned for trying to become as holy, divinely evil, as the God of this world, equal to SATAN: Evil Gods.

So they could not even “touch” that tree, as it should not bear fruit. From all the fruit trees of the Garden of Eden, they could eat except the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. If the tree of life could bear fruit, accidentally Adam and Eve could have eaten from the fruit of the "forbidden" tree. Symbolically we can assume that such a special TREE was the representation of Divinity, Divine Oneness, which we are forbidden to take, let alone eat from it. It is forbidden and kept prohibited by guards.

We can assume that Adam, being a Gardener, went close to this TREE of LIFE, as in his work activity. Symbolically the TREE was the symbolic representation of God, fixed in the Garden, with its own roots, trunk and crown, which characterizes to be TREE = God.
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We see this depiction of Adam next to the "GOD TREE" to which he could be "grafted" accidentally into the TREE by touching it, for example.
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Suppose Adam was seeing the Profile of Tree, and notes that when he walks to the front of the tree (90 degrees turn to the front of the TREE), he actually sees that it is “one TREE” but is formed with THREE distinct TREES, 3 GOD, which are distinct, but are inseparably united. He is seeing 3 GOD who is actually "one God." See that the sap (DIVINITY) of any tree can circulate freely along with all two other trees, from roots to trunks and treetops, including all BRANCHES graphited = we. WE GOOD BRANCHES are grafted to the Tree, allegorically.

Looking more closely, Adam sees that a TREE is PRIMORDIAL, prior to the 2 SON TREES = GOD. The PRIMORDIAL Tree is GODFATHER and the other two trees, flanking, are MINOR and are also GOD, named SON and HOLY SPIRIT (Ghost). Thus we have the GODHEAD allegorically, which form one LIFE TREE, ONE GOD, one DIVINITY. He, the only TREE of LIFE, presides over all creation. It is made by the Divine Unit common to all of them.

The sap is the power of divinity. As all the sap circulates freely throughout the trees, they are one. They are a symbolism of the same POWER of divinity, one supreme PRIESTHOOD and their equal powers in the 3 deities, distinct and interdependent beings, in solidarity forever and ever. This is what we call GODHEAD, 3 DIVINE beings who act as ONE DIVINE BEING (one TREE), with all the attributes of FATHER, SON, and HOLY SPIRIT: one DIVINE, SUPREME one DIVINITY priesthood ( Divine Sap in the 3 Gods).

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GODHEAD Mormon concept is not from the trinity of 3 free and independent GODs


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Initially we were linked to the HEAVENLY FATHER, FATHER TREE, initially all as good BRANCHES (all brothers in pre-existence). The "wicked, rebellious, sick sprigs, God removed them from the TREE and heaped them on the ground and then took them to BURN (HELL). THE GOOD BRANCHES (all of us who went through mortality), who were united to the FATHER (in pre-existence) we were plucked and "grafted" to the SON TREE, which acts as a parent to us and sustains us.

Diseased branches, which fall from the SON tree, and go to the "ground", repent of the diseases (sins) are again grafted onto the "SON" TREE and are nourished and bear fruit, like the other good twigs. The sick branches that refuse heal, the remission of sins, are heaped together for "burning" along with the other evil branches that have fallen from the Father Tree, the primordial head of the Tree of Life, and in "divine unity" with the two divine trees, each one God.

There is no Trinity of 3 Independent Gods, they are inseparably united and form one God, one Tree of Life: Divine Oneness. They are sympathetic and interdependent, chaired by TREE FATHER: GODHEAD of DIVINE UNITY. All allegorically.

Editing this after the fact...

Umm... I'm confused. What are you trying to get at here? Most of us here that are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS are actually non-trinitarian Christians.

Are you asserting the truth of a Trinitarian Christian theology or another point entirely?

Edited because it is forgotten

John Tavner wrote: ↑September 24th, 2019, 4:56 pm

Durzan wrote: ↑September 24th, 2019, 3:58 pm You do realize that there is such a thing as non-trinitarian Christians... right?

Puts on Mod Hat

Oh, and by the way, This kind of post can easily be seen as trolling/baiting, because I seem to recall at least one time where someone thought it would be funny to troll us by posting stuff like this.

I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt, as I've seen and had some pretty good discussions with non-members who've come here to preach to us, but if there's even a hint of that or if things get heated in here, this thread is getting locked.

Got it?

Besides, people only post in threads if they are interested in what people are saying inside that thread. Posts like this don't often interest most of the regular forum members, so it might be a moot point to give you a heads up about this in the first place.

/Mod Hat

Come on man, this post wasn't even necessary. You basically begin with sarcasm "You do realize... don't you?" followed up by a comment that you don't really trust what he is saying or why he is saying it but won't shut it down just because he hasn't attacked/trolled anyone yet and you aren't sure if he is or not Then to top it off you tell him his post probably isn't interesting to most people.

My apologies to you and the OP. My initial impression was that he was asserting that the trinitarian doctrine is true and that our beliefs our outright false. Since that appeared to be the case, and we've had issues with trolls making similar posts in the past, I was preemptively responding to a potential issue ahead of time and trying to let him know that I got my eye on him. The comment about people not being interested in threads like this was supposed to imply that most were avoiding topics that have been used to spark trouble in the past,

Upon closer inspection and rereading the OP, it appears that I may have been just a bit too rash in my initial assumptions, in addition to being a bit harsh with my response.

However, this thread does seem like it might be more appropriate and possibly gain more traction in either the Gospel Discussions forum or the Heretic forum.

Also edited my initial post to be much more appropriate to the circumstances.

No worries, brother! I love your humility in this - it is a great attribute

God bless you, Durzan and I sincerely hope the Lord blesses you in your efforts to write music

John Tavner wrote: ↑September 24th, 2019, 6:03 pm No worries, brother! I love your humility in this - it is a great attribute

God bless you, Durzan and I sincerely hope the Lord blesses you in your efforts to write music

Thanks!

SO the Mormon contention is that there are 3 gods? Are they related to each other? If they are co-eternal then they would seem to be unrelated. If together they co-mingle, then that would seem to demonstrate that they are 3 units working as one essence. Isn't one essence what is meant by a triune GOD?

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