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Re: Are we in a countdown to something big?
Posted: September 18th, 2019, 3:49 pm
by Art Vandelay
justme wrote: ↑September 18th, 2019, 2:02 pm
The play "Saturday's Warrior" is approaching its 50th birthday. That is several generations.
The 1973 version was prophetic. The 2016 version is the real thing
Re: Are we in a countdown to something big?
Posted: September 18th, 2019, 4:04 pm
by MMbelieve
Mindfields wrote: ↑September 18th, 2019, 11:15 am
I found President Nelson's comment to students yesterday to be both interesting and revealing, he said:
"Truth number one: You are sons and daughters of God.
You already know this. You have sung about it ever since you were toddlers. But let me clarify a distinguishing characteristic about your identity. You are the children whom God chose to be part of His battalion during this great climax in the longstanding battle between good and evil—between truth and error. I would not be surprised if, when the veil is lifted in the next life, we learn that you actually pled with our Heavenly Father to be reserved for now. I would not be surprised to learn that premortally, you loved the Lord so much that you promised to defend His name and gospel during this world’s tumultuous winding-up scenes. One thing is certain: You are of the House of Israel and you have been sent here to help gather God’s elect."
So he says "You are the children whom God chose to be part of His battalion during this great climax in the longstanding battle between good and evil—between truth and error." So it appears that as President Nelson see it, we are already in the "climax" and the BYU students are among those "whom God chose" to be a part of it.
He also says "you promised to defend His name and gospel during this world’s tumultuous winding-up scenes." ..."tumultuous winding-up scenes"... don't think you can interpret that any other way than a reference to the events of the second coming.
These concepts have been used on every generation since Joseph Smith. They just repackage, rephrase, or just copy what some previous church leader said and every few years drag it out and present it as new. This concept is non scriptural and is just a mechanism to control the current generation. If I'm mistaken please enlighten me.
Every single generation can't be the so called "chosen generation".
Well technically they are chosen for that generation they are in. So everyone can be a chosen generation as long as God was always deciding these things. In heaven - to God, he can sit for lunch and then it will be time. So maybe its God who keeps talking like its so close because to him it always has been.
People long before 1820 believed they could be the chosen generation. I take it as a desire to be around for the second coming and a desire to have the savior back on the earth.
Re: Are we in a countdown to something big?
Posted: September 18th, 2019, 8:53 pm
by Bronco73idi
friendsofthe wrote: ↑September 18th, 2019, 8:12 am
Verily, I say unto you, that the day of vexation and vengeance is nigh at the doors of this nation, when wicked, ungodly and daring men will rise up in wrath and might, and go forth in anger, like as the dust is driven by a terrible wind; and they will be the means of the destruction of the government and cause the death and misery of many souls; but the faithful among my people shall be preserved in holy places during all these tribulations
I like this prophecy, it fits all of my spirit led research to a T. “blood flowing through the streets” would be next. Imho, The abomination of desolation is after the quake that all the earth will know about.
Do you have a source?
Re: Are we in a countdown to something big?
Posted: September 20th, 2019, 9:44 am
by friendsofthe
Bronco73idi wrote: ↑September 18th, 2019, 8:53 pm
friendsofthe wrote: ↑September 18th, 2019, 8:12 am
Verily, I say unto you, that the day of vexation and vengeance is nigh at the doors of this nation, when wicked, ungodly and daring men will rise up in wrath and might, and go forth in anger, like as the dust is driven by a terrible wind; and they will be the means of the destruction of the government and cause the death and misery of many souls; but the faithful among my people shall be preserved in holy places during all these tribulations
I like this prophecy, it fits all of my spirit led research to a T. “blood flowing through the streets” would be next. Imho, The abomination of desolation is after the quake that all the earth will know about.
Do you have a source?
Verily, I say unto you, that the day of vexation and vengeance is nigh at the doors of this nation, when wicked, ungodly and daring men will rise up in wrath and might, and go forth in anger, like as the dust is driven by a terrible wind; and they will be the means of the destruction of the government and cause the death and misery of many souls; but the faithful among my people shall be preserved in holy places during all these tribulations. (Letter from W.W. Phelps to Brigham Young, dated August 12, 1861, Joseph Smith Collection, Church Historians Office.)