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El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 3rd, 2019, 1:26 pm
by Lizzy60
Have any of you heard about Antifa claiming that they are planning on "shooting up" El Paso. I heard some stuff, but I don't remember the details. I also don't know if this shooting is Antifa, or someone else, but there is at least one suspect alive, and 18 dead, more injured. Update: multiple suspects arrested.
The world has gone stark raving mad.
https://www.ktsm.com/news/breaking-poss ... ista-mall/
More craziness -- a guy on Fox News is already talking about how to stop things like this in the future. Door-locking mechanisms, like prisons have, used when a shooting starts. Stupidity.
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 3rd, 2019, 2:28 pm
by marc
My hometown. Weird to see this, but then it's everywhere. Incidentally, this happened in a shopping mall.
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 3rd, 2019, 2:37 pm
by Lizzy60
marc wrote: ↑August 3rd, 2019, 2:28 pm
My hometown. Weird to see this, but then it's everywhere. Incidentally, this happened in a shopping mall.
It was a Walmart anchor store of a shopping mall. The shooter entered Walmart directly from the street, and did all the shooting in Walmart, making his way from the front to the back of the store. That's why some accounts are saying its a mall, and some are saying its Walmart.
At least that what witness accounts are saying on Fox News.
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 3rd, 2019, 2:42 pm
by marc
Oh, ok. Must be a new Wal Mart there. My parents go there often to stretch their legs. They were about a mile away having breakfast when they saw all kinds of stuff happening. They didn't know what was happening until they went home and saw it on the news.
Eye witness videos
Posted: August 3rd, 2019, 3:16 pm
by Silver Pie
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 3rd, 2019, 3:19 pm
by Silver Pie
For anyone interested in reading the link in the op, scroll down to get the first news, then scroll up to read each update.
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 3rd, 2019, 3:44 pm
by Silver Pie
And, again, it's a young man (21 years old). It seems like a lot of them are young. He started shooting people outside, then once he was inside he went aisle by aisle.
Are we the only country where our ordinary citizens decide to massacre a bunch of people? I know there are some governments that massacre their own people, but I don't know of any other country as violent as ours when it comes to individual citizens taking down as many random strangers as it can for no good reason.
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 3rd, 2019, 3:51 pm
by Silver Pie
At least 19 people killed and 40 injured
Posted: August 3rd, 2019, 3:59 pm
by Silver Pie
What we know so far:
The shooting took place in a Walmart and around the nearby Cielo Vista Mall in El Paso.
Police received their first calls on the incident slightly past 10 a.m. local time.
At least 19 people were killed and 40 injured.
One male suspect is in custody, along with a second person whose suspected role in the shooting was not immediately known.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ac ... g-n1039001
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 3rd, 2019, 4:16 pm
by gkearney
Silver Pie wrote: ↑August 3rd, 2019, 3:44 pm
And, again, it's a young man (21 years old). It seems like a lot of them are young. He started shooting people outside, then once he was inside he went aisle by aisle.
Are we the only country where our ordinary citizens decide to massacre a bunch of people? I know there are some governments that massacre their own people, but I don't know of any other country as violent as ours when it comes to individual citizens taking down as many random strangers as it can for no good reason.
Don’t worry about it Silver Pie, this is the LDSFF, someone will be along shortly to tell us this is all a hoax that everyone there were actors and no one was really killed at all.
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 3rd, 2019, 4:24 pm
by kittycat51
gkearney wrote: ↑August 3rd, 2019, 4:16 pm
Silver Pie wrote: ↑August 3rd, 2019, 3:44 pm
And, again, it's a young man (21 years old). It seems like a lot of them are young. He started shooting people outside, then once he was inside he went aisle by aisle.
Are we the only country where our ordinary citizens decide to massacre a bunch of people? I know there are some governments that massacre their own people, but I don't know of any other country as violent as ours when it comes to individual citizens taking down as many random strangers as it can for no good reason.
Don’t worry about it Silver Pie, this is the LDSFF, someone will be along shortly to tell us this is all a hoax that everyone there were actors and no one was really killed at all.
Only in America
(U.S. that is)
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 4th, 2019, 2:33 am
by righteousrepublic
There may not have been so many people killed had other people in the store been open carrying, and would have killed the murderer as if he were a mad dog. But no, everyone had to wait for the police, minutes after it was all over with. This is how good it is to have police. They show up a day late and a dollar short. And by the time the dust settles, they will have made the shooter look a hero.
It may also be another excuse for politicians to take away all guns. Remember, guns kill, not people using a gun. Guns can fire all on their own. A gun in an innocent man's hand is a weapon of mass destruction because it can shoot at others at will.
The shooter only had to enter the store and the gun did the rest. Mighty strange how that works.
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 4th, 2019, 2:51 am
by Elizabeth
Elizabeth wrote: ↑August 3rd, 2019, 11:50 pm Patrick Crusius surrendered to police as officers closed in on him, he was taken into custody without incident, the 21 year old is from Allen, Texas, a Dallas suburb some 1,046 kilometres east of El Paso.
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 4th, 2019, 2:55 am
by Elizabeth
Suspect and 9 others dead, at least 16 wounded at or near Ned Peppers Bar on East Fifth Street in the city of Dayton’s Oregon District.
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 4th, 2019, 2:57 am
by nvr
https://twitter.com/DestroyPolitics/sta ... 8230194177
Reporting what this one witness said - all black with a mask, yet the provided surveillance shows he was dressed differently w/ no mask.
I'm not sure what the story is and why some witnesses are saying they saw
3 or 4 gunmen
Also, you can
see for yourself,
how as of April 2019, the raised parking lot planter looks different, no stop sign and painted zone is white vs yellow in latest 2019 google maps images.
As expected guy's like Beto and other democrat president candidates were ready to grandstand and quickly call for gun control.
How much death came shortly after other governments banned guns - Mao, Hitler, Stalin, all took guns, and destruction followed.
It seems people are intent with shaping this guy's image as well:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/0 ... epublican/
Apparently, the reporter who got initial photos of suspect from police reported that there was a second shooter whom police shot & killed
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/0 ... ly-closed/
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 4th, 2019, 4:37 am
by eddie
gkearney wrote: ↑August 3rd, 2019, 4:16 pm
Silver Pie wrote: ↑August 3rd, 2019, 3:44 pm
And, again, it's a young man (21 years old). It seems like a lot of them are young. He started shooting people outside, then once he was inside he went aisle by aisle.
Are we the only country where our ordinary citizens decide to massacre a bunch of people? I know there are some governments that massacre their own people, but I don't know of any other country as violent as ours when it comes to individual citizens taking down as many random strangers as it can for no good reason.
Don’t worry about it Silver Pie, this is the LDSFF, someone will be along shortly to tell us this is all a hoax that everyone there were actors and no one was really killed at all.
I knew it! haha
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 4th, 2019, 9:42 am
by JK4Woods
Silver Pie wrote: ↑August 3rd, 2019, 3:44 pm
And, again, it's a young man (21 years old). It seems like a lot of them are young. He started shooting people outside, then once he was inside he went aisle by aisle.
Are we the only country where our ordinary citizens decide to massacre a bunch of people? I know there are some governments that massacre their own people, but I don't know of any other country as violent as ours when it comes to individual citizens taking down as many random strangers as it can for no good reason.
There was that Norweigan guy who who shot 147 people on that island.
And the Japanese group who took swords an killed twenty some commuters at a Tokyo subway station.
A bunch of night club bombings over the years in all sorts of places.
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 4th, 2019, 10:38 am
by Elizabeth
Just 30 seconds after he fired his first shots, Betts was killed by police patrolling the area.
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 4th, 2019, 11:04 am
by Juliet
A CIA document dated 10 Feb 1954 [4] describes an experiment on the creation of unsuspecting assassins: "Miss [deleted] was then instructed (having expressed a fear of firearms) that she would use every method at her disposal to awaken Miss [deleted] (now in a deep hypnotic sleep) and failing this, she would pick up a pistol and fire it at Miss [deleted]. She was instructed that she would not hesitate to "kill." Miss [deleted] carried out these suggestions including firing the (unloaded) gun at [deleted]. After proper suggestions were made, both were awakened. Miss [deleted] expressed absolute denial that the foregoing sequence had happened." BB 36, 37
https://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrol
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 4th, 2019, 11:04 am
by Elizabeth
Elizabeth wrote: ↑August 4th, 2019, 10:46 am
The mass shooter in Dayton, Ohio identified by police as 24-year-old Connor Betts, of Bellbrook, Ohio. Betts was wearing a hoodie with the quote "No heart to fear, no soul to steal." from a hateful and vengeful song called Ramirez by The Acacia Strain, a metalcore band.
The patches he’s wearing in an identifying picture are from a known satanist apparel company. One of them reads “against all gods”.
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 4th, 2019, 11:10 am
by Elizabeth
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 4th, 2019, 11:35 am
by Elizabeth
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 4th, 2019, 11:55 am
by Elizabeth
Law enforcement officials confirmed the shooters sister, Megan Betts, 22, was among the nine victims.
Elizabeth wrote: ↑August 4th, 2019, 10:46 am
The mass shooter in Dayton, Ohio identified by police as 24-year-old Connor Betts, of Bellbrook, Ohio. Betts was wearing a hoodie with the quote "No heart to fear, no soul to steal." from a hateful and vengeful song called Ramirez by The Acacia Strain, a metalcore band.
The patches he’s wearing in an identifying picture are from a known satanist apparel company. One of them reads “against all gods”.
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 4th, 2019, 12:17 pm
by mahalanobis
JK4Woods wrote: ↑August 4th, 2019, 9:42 am
Silver Pie wrote: ↑August 3rd, 2019, 3:44 pm
And, again, it's a young man (21 years old). It seems like a lot of them are young. He started shooting people outside, then once he was inside he went aisle by aisle.
Are we the only country where our ordinary citizens decide to massacre a bunch of people? I know there are some governments that massacre their own people, but I don't know of any other country as violent as ours when it comes to individual citizens taking down as many random strangers as it can for no good reason.
There was that Norweigan guy who who shot 147 people on that island.
And the Japanese group who took swords an killed twenty some commuters at a Tokyo subway station.
A bunch of night club bombings over the years in all sorts of places.
These shootings are tragic, no doubt. While tragic, compare it to what the cartels do to people. Those murders don't count as "mass shootings" by strict definition, but it's scary stuff. Look up the Joe Rogan podcast with the ex-cop from Mexico. You'll never hear about it because the media have no narrative to push. Guns are already banned in Mexico (which coincidentally exacerbates the cartel problem - cartel folks are the only ones with guns and the only places that the cartels were successfully shut down was in towns where the citizens are armed with illegal AKs).
EDIT:
Look up Jose Mireles. He was a doctor in southern CA (I'm assuming was a
legal immigrant) originally from Michoacan Mexico. After some kidnappings by the cartels in his hometown (human trafficking), he moved back home and took on the cartels. He sent them "messages" via YouTube. They armed up (illegally) with AKs. They set up checkpoints and patrolled the streets, all in jeans and pickup trucks. This guy is legit. But the story never made the news. You have to actively search it to ever hear about this guy. He's like Batman mixed with Zorro.
EDIT 2:
115,000 deaths in Mexico from organized crime homicides 2007 – 2018. Only 12,000 of those were cartel members. That death toll includes 395 military servicemen killed (and 137 missing) and
4,020 Federal, State, and Municipal Police
killed. The rest civilians. Yikes.
(All original sources are listed on the Wikipedia page for the Mexican drug war).
How many of those deaths would have been prevented if citizens armed up like Mireles did? How many deaths have been caused by the banning of guns in Mexico? We can't say for sure, but I don't want to gamble with those odds.
Re: El Paso Walmart shooting
Posted: August 4th, 2019, 12:21 pm
by Lizzy60
JK4Woods wrote: ↑August 4th, 2019, 9:42 am
Silver Pie wrote: ↑August 3rd, 2019, 3:44 pm
And, again, it's a young man (21 years old). It seems like a lot of them are young. He started shooting people outside, then once he was inside he went aisle by aisle.
Are we the only country where our ordinary citizens decide to massacre a bunch of people? I know there are some governments that massacre their own people, but I don't know of any other country as violent as ours when it comes to individual citizens taking down as many random strangers as it can for no good reason.
There was that Norweigan guy who who shot 147 people on that island.
And the Japanese group who took swords an killed twenty some commuters at a Tokyo subway station.
A bunch of night club bombings over the years in all sorts of places.
Christians are being killed daily in Muslim countries, and blacks are killing whites daily in South Africa. Nary a word about these killings here in the US, because they don't fit the pro-Muslim, anti-white, anti-Christian bias of the American mainstream media.
