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How many Millennials are really leaving the LDS Church?

Posted: August 2nd, 2019, 5:01 pm
by kirtland r.m.
One is one too many.
Religion News Service. How many Millennial's are really leaving the LDS Church?
https://religionnews.com/2019/03/27/how ... ds-church/

Grounded, Rooted, Established, Settled(1981).

Indeed it is in the context of such pleasing but challenging growth that the theme for today will be addressed—from the words of Paul and Peter, “grounded, rooted, established, and settled.” This is a vital objective for all members of the Church, but especially for your generation because of the special circumstances which will confront you. In fact, you may be the first generation in Church history, because of lamentably changing conditions in the world, who will be asked to believe and to behave “because of the word” and not circumstances. In varying degrees, you will not have the same affirmative influence of societal institutions which once strongly supported the family and principles such as chastity and fidelity. Those supporting influences, in many respects, will, unfortunately fall away like so much scaffolding. Then we will see who stands, both on holy ground and on holy principles!

Jesus described some of these realities and the casualties of conversion and retention thusly:

Some [seeds] fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:

And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. [Matthew 13:5–6]https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/neal-a-m ... d-settled/

That from 1981, very prophetic. Thanks Elder Maxwell, surely the world is now even more full of "special circumstances which will confront you". The father of all lies is hardening hearts, and damaging spirits.

Re: How many Millennials are really leaving the LDS Church?

Posted: August 3rd, 2019, 4:37 pm
by Michael Sherwin
kirtland r.m. wrote: August 2nd, 2019, 5:01 pm One is one too many.
Religion News Service. How many Millennial's are really leaving the LDS Church?
https://religionnews.com/2019/03/27/how ... ds-church/

Grounded, Rooted, Established, Settled(1981).

Indeed it is in the context of such pleasing but challenging growth that the theme for today will be addressed—from the words of Paul and Peter, “grounded, rooted, established, and settled.” This is a vital objective for all members of the Church, but especially for your generation because of the special circumstances which will confront you. In fact, you may be the first generation in Church history, because of lamentably changing conditions in the world, who will be asked to believe and to behave “because of the word” and not circumstances. In varying degrees, you will not have the same affirmative influence of societal institutions which once strongly supported the family and principles such as chastity and fidelity. Those supporting influences, in many respects, will, unfortunately fall away like so much scaffolding. Then we will see who stands, both on holy ground and on holy principles!

Jesus described some of these realities and the casualties of conversion and retention thusly:

Some [seeds] fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:

And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. [Matthew 13:5–6]https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/neal-a-m ... d-settled/

That from 1981, very prophetic. Thanks Elder Maxwell, surely the world is now even more full of "special circumstances which will confront you". The father of all lies is hardening hearts, and damaging spirits.
It is not helpful to use scripture out of context for one's own purposes. The seed spoken of in Matthew being sown is this seed.

1Corinthians 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

1Corinthians 15:36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

1Corinthians 15:37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:

1Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.


This "seed" is an actual extant "spirit material" that we must have within each of us for us to be resurrected. I have posted so many times on this but no one will hear me. This is the seed of the woman, the Christ within, the kingdom of God within. ONE MUST HAVE A SEED TO BE RESURRECTED. NO SEED, NO RESURRECTION. If one has no seed then they are a tare planted by the Devil and will be burnt. They are the godless as they have nothing of God within meaning that they do not have the kingdom within.

2Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

Why can't anyone see this and talk about what the "seed" is, correctly? 🤔