Doc wrote: ↑July 25th, 2019, 12:57 am
I AM wrote: ↑July 24th, 2019, 10:52 pm
Durzan wrote: ↑July 24th, 2019, 12:38 am
His next major move will be to do the unthinkable to the church... to break it.
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actually
I think that's the Lord's next move.
The Lord uses him The" King of Assyria" (
His left hand)
against the church (
The Drunkards of Ephraim )
The" King of Assyria" will hurl "The Drunkards of Ephraim" to the ground !
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The
" King of Assyria " !
Isaiah exposes the follies of the "Drunkards of Ephraim! "
Isaiah 28
Ephraim and its prophets reap disaster for being delusional and for rejecting divine revelation.
http://www.isaiahexplained.com/28#commentary
Isaiah 28 audio Avraham Gileadi
http://www.isaiahexplained.com/legacy/M ... aiah28.mp3
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Woe to the garlands of glory
of the drunkards of Ephraim!
Their crowning splendor has become as fading wreaths
on the heads of the opulent overcome with wine.
Chapters 28-31, which form a didactic unit comprising Part VI of Isaiah’s Seven-Part Structure (Isaiah 28-31; 55-59),
each commence with a “woe” or covenant curse.
Ephraim’s chief sins of pride and drunkenness catch up with Israel’s birthright tribe in Jehovah’s Day of Judgment. Instead of acknowledging current inconvenient truths,
the people of Ephraim look back on past glories earned in more righteous times as if they still apply today. Ephraim’s self-deception, stemming from intoxication with “wine” at the highest levels, compounds the hard times that lie ahead (v 7; Isaiah 56:10-12).
"Isaiah's prophecy concerning Ephraim consists mostly of censure.
Ephraim lives in the past, acting as if former glories were current ones: “Woe to the garlands of glory of the drunkards of Ephraim!
Their crowning splendor has become as fading wreaths on the heads of the opulent overcome with wine” (Isaiah 28:1).
The king of Assyria—a new Flood (Isaiah 8:7–8)—will invade Ephraim’s land:
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“My Lord has in store one mighty and strong: as a ravaging hailstorm sweeping down, or like an inundating deluge of mighty waters,
he will hurl them to the ground by his hand.
The proud garlands of the drunkards of Ephraim shall be trodden underfoot”(Isaiah 28:2–3)."
The imagery of “a ravaging hailstorm sweeping down” and of “an inundating deluge of mighty waters” identifies the king of Assyria/Babylon and his alliance of aggressor nations (Isaiah 8:7-8; 17:12; 18:2).
A second “one mighty and strong” in the Book of Isaiah is Jehovah’s servant, who makes an end of him at the last. Although Jehovah provides a refuge for a repentant remnant of his people against the storms of their enemies (Isaiah 4:6; 25:4-5; 57:13),
he empowers the archtyrant—Jehovah’s (left) hand—over “the drunkards of Ephraim” to cast their illustriousness to the ground (cf. vv 1, 3).(Bold & Italics mine)
Isaiah 28
22 Jehovah will smite Egypt, and by smiting heal it: they will turn back to Jehovah, and he will respond to their pleas and heal them.
Although it is Jehovah who smites the wicked—both his own people and the nations (Isaiah 9:13; 27:7-8; 60:10)—he uses the king of Assyria/Babylon as his instrument (Isaiah 5:25; 10:20; 14:6).
Jehovah’s intent, however, is to cause the wicked to “turn back” to him—to “repent” and “return”—so that he may heal them. He heals them when at last they “see with their eyes and hear with their ears, understand in their heart, and repent, and are healed” (Isaiah 6:10; cf. 58:1-8).
Too often, however, only when wickedness results in covenant curses, does such healing occur (Isaiah 26:16; 27:4-5; 54:7-8).
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The Drunkards of Ephraim
Isaiah 28:
quote
"First we must note here that Isaiah is speaking to "the drunkards of Ephraim”.
There is no question that the Latter-Day Saints refer to themselves as “Ephraim” and there is no question that the Church teaches that the very next chapter of Isaiah (chapter 29) refers to our day or the coming forth of the Church, and the Book of Mormon. Therefore, it would seem quite logical that Isaiah 28 would also refer to Ephraim of our day."
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I find it absurd that some, (the "all is well in Zion" crowd )
can say that Isaiah 28 has nothing to do with the church,
while the church itself says that Isaiah 29 does. AMAZING !
"First we must note here that Isaiah is speaking to "the drunkards of Ephraim”.
There is no question that the Latter-Day Saints refer to themselves as “Ephraim” and there is no question that the Church teaches that the very next chapter of Isaiah (chapter 29) refers to our day or the coming forth of the Church, and the Book of Mormon. Therefore, it would seem quite logical that Isaiah 28 would also refer to Ephraim of our day."
taken from: LDS Seminary Student Study Guide
"Isaiah 29 is one place in the Bible where the Book of Mormon is referred to, even though it is not mentioned by name.
As you read this chapter, look for prophecies of the coming forth of the Book of Mormon and the impact this book will have on the world."
If you want a big wake up call please read and study the 28th chapter of Isaiah,
it will reveal that every word applies to our church in these days
and to no other people.
Isaiah cites that this people would be given "precept upon precept;
precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little and there a little."
These identical words, were used by the Prophet Joseph Smith among his closing instructions
to the latter day saints, warning us to go forward not backward. D.C.128:21-22 ; 2Nephi 28:30
Isaiah 28:13 "But the word of the Lord was unto them
precept upon precept, precept upon precept;
line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little;
that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken,
and snared, and taken."
We are still satisfied with the ABC portions of the gospel.
We will not accept the meat portions of the gospel.
Isaiah 28:
9 Whom shall he give instruction?
Whom shall he enlighten with revelation?
Weanlings weaned from milk,those just taken from the breast?
10 For it is but line upon line, line upon line,precept upon precept,
precept upon precept;a trifle here, a trifle there.
This is what I’m getting at...so God won’t force or persuade the Assyrian to come against us, but He will allow it to happen. God essentially planned for this to happen since the beginning. If Satan could read and understand prophecy, wouldn’t he try to alter the series of events in order to hope for a different outcome in the end? It leads me to believe Satan is somehow restricted from knowing/understanding prophecy...imagine anytime Satan tries to look at Isaiah, the words get blurred out lol.
The point is, we are told to look at the state of the fig tree to determine the season. With enough practice and personal revelation, I feel like you can start to anticipate the way the adversary manipulates the flow of events in our country. By us knowing where we are at, the ultimate end point, and the prophecies leading toward that day, we can paint an accurate roadmap.
I feel like I have a good idea of the timing and sequence of events that will befall Zion and our country. It makes me sad and excited at the same time...but I always have the thought in the back of my mind, “what if Satan wanted to really mess with our minds and go easy on the world for another 1000 years?” It’s not like Satan can die of old age...so why not try to extend his tyrannical reign and allow humans to be lukewarm? I know his ambition, his hate, his pride, etc...so I feel there is some evidence that suggests that It is plausible that Satan cannot see, hear, or understand prophecy/God’s plan.
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sounds like you read the scriptures - and therefore
have a pretty good idea of what's going down.
you could say God will allow,
but He DID give us a choice,
and we chose to worship our own God , not Him,
(just like before when the Lord tried to get the Saints to establish Zion) ***
and I believe because of our iniquity and rebellious unrepentant attitude,
we have forced the Lord's hand, and He will bring down
His wrath and judgments on us - the U.S. LIKE NEVER BEFORE.
as far as
"Satan cannot see, hear, or understand prophecy/God’s plan"
I think he can,
and knows and understands everything;
(remember in the pre-existence - he was an "angel of God who
was in authority in the presence of God" D&C 76:25)
and he HAS, and continues to try to deceive, change
and subvert God's plan for his own selfish, evil, desires
of power and glory; like he did in the pre-existence .
but remember - no matter what Satan tries to do -
GOD IS IN CONTROL - not Satan.
And EVERYTHING WILL happen as He wills it.
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Ezra T. Benson
has said that we were under condemnation
for treating the Book of Mormon lightly.
“If the early Saints were rebuked for treating
the Book of Mormon lightly, are we under any less
condemnation if we do the same?”
(in Conference Report, Oct. 1986, 4;
or Ensign, Nov. 1986, 4–5).
D&C 84:
54 And your minds in times past have been darkened
because of unbelief, and because you have treated
lightly the things you have received—
55 Which vanity and unbelief have brought the
whole church under condemnation.
56 And this condemnation resteth upon
the children of Zion, even all.
57 And they shall remain under this condemnation
until they repent and remember the new covenant,
even the Book of Mormon and the former
commandments which I have given them,
not only to say, but to do according to
that which I have written—
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Doctrine and Covenants
Section 101:
6 Behold, I say unto you, there were jarrings,
and contentions, and envyings, and strifes,
and lustful and covetous desires among them;
therefore by these things they polluted their inheritances.
D&C 105:
2 "Behold, I say unto you, were it not for the transgressions of my people, speaking concerning the church and not individuals, they might have been redeemed even now.
3 But behold, they have not learned to be obedient to the things which I required at their hands, but are full of all manner of evil, and do not impart of their substance, as becometh saints, to the poor and afflicted among them;
4 And are not united according to the union required by the law of the celestial kingdom;
5 And Zion cannot be built up unless it is by the principles of the law of the celestial kingdom; otherwise I cannot receive her unto myself.
6 And my people must needs be chastened until they learn obedience, if it must needs be, by the things which they suffer."
For this the Lord said that Zion would have to "wait for a little season"
D&C 105:
9 Therefore, in consequence of the transgressions of my people, it is expedient in me that mine elders should
wait for a little season for the redemption of Zion—
