The Approaching Storm

[mike_rumble]

It seems like every movie now needs to include a "positive" depiction of
two homosexuals showing "affection" for one another. It would be hard for
anyone to convince me that it is not by design.

I like movies that promise a somewhat mystical experience, so today I
chose to watch two movies. The first was called 'The Sword of Trust' and
was about a family with a connection to an antique sword. Not 10 minutes
into the movie viewers are shown two homosexual women kissing. The next
movie was called 'Above the Shadows' and was a story about a woman who is
invisible first to her family and then to others. Got just more than 50%
of the way through when two homosexual men were shown in a traditional
man/woman kind of situation, and of course the main character of the movie
smiles at them to show that it was all good.

This subtle indoctrination by the media aimed at convincing us (especially
the under 20's) that homosexual relationships are acceptable behaviour goes
on all the time now. Doesn't matter whether it's a drama, a comedy or it's
fantasy or science fiction; it has to have that few minutes of same-sex
activity. Every new movie has it, and every new TV series has it.

I know in my heart that we are fighting a losing battle here. The Prophets
spoke of these latter days when good would be called evil and evil would be
called good. Who would have thought it was going to come upon us so very
fast, in only the space of a single generation or less. Just extrapolate in
to the next 20 years and you'll have no problem believing that a terrible
persecution of Believers is just around the corner.

If it was just believers against the media where we can just sit quietly
and not be bothered by anyone, that might be okay. But it will be a time of
brothers against brothers, sons against fathers, daughters aganst mothers
even to the destruction of families which to now have remained strong and
undevided.

I am worn down, but undefeated.
I look forward, with expectation to the quick return of our Lord and
Master, Jesus Christ who will set up his true Kingdom on this sick planet.
But first has to come persecution and tribulation.
Are we really prepared for it?

[eddie]

Sometimes I pick up my grandaughter from school, the things she tells me that she has learned is unbelieveable. She told me one day that we have to accept the gay lifestyle. I have to debrief her and explain that we don't have to accept anything. We have our own beliefs and nobody should try and change that. We don't persecute them but we don't have to accept it. Morals and beliefs should be taught at home, reading writing and arithmatic at school.

[EmmaLee]

Well said, Mike. The only thing I would add is that it is not subtle - it is very much overt and becoming more so with each day. It is everywhere - we are saturated with it, and it is all by design and very intentional. Good is evil - evil is good - the scriptures are fulfilled right before our eyes (which is horrifying and exciting all at the same time).

[mike_rumble]

Kind of like the metaphor of watching a train wreck. You know it's going to be bad, but you can't turn away.
Horrified at the depravity and the cruelty, but excited by how it shows forth that we are in those last days before the return of our Lord.
Hold fast to the Truth once delivered to the Saints. His coming is near, even at the door. I truely believe this.

[gangbusters]

My kids are only 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, but I am trying my best to teach them that marriage is ONE MAN AND A WOMAN. We have the Proclamation prominently displayed in our home, and I am constantly trying to instill in them the joys of motherhood and fatherhood.

I often ask, if my kids live to be old men and women (70, 80 y/o) what in the hades will this world look like then?? This might sound dumb, but I literally pray for the Lord to return. I plead with him to, and sometimes I even get emotional in doing so. I honestly urge everyone who feels like mike_rumble and similarly minded people to do the same. It might not hasten the day, but we need to make our voices heard.

[concierge]

My kids are only 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, but I am trying my best to teach them that marriage is ONE MAN AND A WOMAN. We have the Proclamation prominently displayed in our home, and I am constantly trying to instill in them the joys of motherhood and fatherhood.

I often ask, if my kids live to be old men and women (70, 80 y/o) what in the hades will this world look like then?? This might sound dumb, but I literally pray for the Lord to return. I plead with him to, and sometimes I even get emotional in doing so. I honestly urge everyone who feels like mike_rumble and similarly minded people to do the same. It might not hasten the day, but we need to make our voices heard.

When I was a kid I remember some saying that iirc came from an apostle or prophet that Christ would come when the saints begged Him to.... Now maybe that was a rumour, but I know more and more people who are doing the above.

[gangbusters]

My kids are only 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, but I am trying my best to teach them that marriage is ONE MAN AND A WOMAN. We have the Proclamation prominently displayed in our home, and I am constantly trying to instill in them the joys of motherhood and fatherhood.

I often ask, if my kids live to be old men and women (70, 80 y/o) what in the hades will this world look like then?? This might sound dumb, but I literally pray for the Lord to return. I plead with him to, and sometimes I even get emotional in doing so. I honestly urge everyone who feels like mike_rumble and similarly minded people to do the same. It might not hasten the day, but we need to make our voices heard.

When I was a kid I remember some saying that iirc came from an apostle or prophet that Christ would come when the saints begged Him to.... Now maybe that was a rumour, but I know more and more people who are doing the above.

I remember hearing something like that somewhere, not sure where. I was going to mention that. Thing is, right now, the vast majority of the membership (maybe that's too harsh, but much of it) is blissfully indifferent to anything going on. So that makes me think if it's THAT bad, then it's going to get way worse in order to wake us all up.

[BeNotDeceived]

Kind of like the metaphor of watching a train wreck. You know it's going to be bad, but you can't turn away.
Horrified at the depravity and the cruelty, but excited by how it shows forth that we are in those last days before the return of our Lord.
Hold fast to the Truth once delivered to the Saints. His coming is near, even at the door. I truely believe this.

Everybody remembers the day Moses parted the Red Sea, but tend to forget the forty years he wandered lost in the desert. About 5 of 7 more years of prosperity, then the SHTF BIG TIME, if eclipse synchronicity and experimental outcome continues to holds true to a Type and Shadow, from times past.

So it goes.

[Lizzy60]

I also truly believe that the day of His second coming is near. I also know that He desires for us to pray every day that this blessed day will come SOON.

This event is probably in the top 3 events of planet Earth, and also of this eternity. We have waited eons of time for this day. Why would anyone say that they hope it doesn't come very soon, because they aren't ready? We've had plenty of time -- including our pre-Earth existence.

Please, Lord Jesus, hasten the day!!!!

[jsk]

My gut feeling is that as bad as things are now, they will have to get a whole lot worse before the Lord comes again. Of course I have no special knowledge or insight...but that’s my feeling.

[friendsofthe]

My kids are only 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, but I am trying my best to teach them that marriage is ONE MAN AND A WOMAN. We have the Proclamation prominently displayed in our home, and I am constantly trying to instill in them the joys of motherhood and fatherhood.

I often ask, if my kids live to be old men and women (70, 80 y/o) what in the hades will this world look like then?? This might sound dumb, but I literally pray for the Lord to return. I plead with him to, and sometimes I even get emotional in doing so. I honestly urge everyone who feels like mike_rumble and similarly minded people to do the same. It might not hasten the day, but we need to make our voices heard.

When I was a kid I remember some saying that iirc came from an apostle or prophet that Christ would come when the saints begged Him to.... Now maybe that was a rumour, but I know more and more people who are doing the above.

Perhaps it would help to know that the saints praying for the Lord's coming is scriptural, in D&C 133 we read:

36 And now, verily saith the Lord, that these things might be known among you, O inhabitants of the earth, I have sent forth mine angel flying through the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel, who hath appeared unto some and hath committed it unto man, who shall appear unto many that dwell on the earth.
37 And this gospel shall be preached unto every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people.
38 And the servants of God shall go forth, saying with a loud voice: Fear God and give glory to him, for the hour of his judgment is come;
39 And worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters—
40 Calling upon the name of the Lord day and night, saying: O that thou wouldst rend the heavens, that thou wouldst come down, that the mountains might flow down at thy presence.
41 And it shall be answered upon their heads; for the presence of the Lord shall be as the melting fire that burneth, and as the fire which causeth the waters to boil.
42 O Lord, thou shalt come down to make thy name known to thine adversaries, and all nations shall tremble at thy presence—
43 When thou doest terrible things, things they look not for;
44 Yea, when thou comest down, and the mountains flow down at thy presence, thou shalt meet him who rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, who remembereth thee in thy ways.
45 For since the beginning of the world have not men heard nor perceived by the ear, neither hath any eye seen, O God, besides thee, how great things thou hast prepared for him that waiteth for thee.

It surely won't be long now... as President Nelson said in 2018, "Wait till next year and then the next year... it's going to be exciting"! And what is the antecedent of "it's"? I think it is exactly what he spoke about in April conference in 2018 when he said, "Our Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ, will perform some of His mightiest works between now and when He comes again. We will see miraculous indications that God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, preside over this Church in majesty and glory." Sound like Adam Ondi Ahman? I think so too!!!

Free book download... www.thebridegroomcometh.net/book

[I AM]

My gut feeling is that as bad as things are now, they will have to get a whole lot worse before the Lord comes again. Of course I have no special knowledge or insight...but that’s my feeling.

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ya, they WILL have to get a whole lot worse, with the 7 years of tribulation period
before the return of the Lord - which I believe will begin any time now -
which the last half (3 1/2 years) being the worst -
referred to by Jesus as “the great tribulation”..

https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 90#p947390

[Rwp]

Sometimes I pick up my grandaughter from school, the things she tells me that she has learned is unbelieveable. She told me one day that we have to accept the gay lifestyle. I have to debrief her and explain that we don't have to accept anything. We have our own beliefs and nobody should try and change that. We don't persecute them but we don't have to accept it. Morals and beliefs should be taught at home, reading writing and arithmatic at school.

Just out of curiosity, what State do you live in and how old is she? My husband and I want to homeschool but, I, truthfully feel overwhelmed. But my daughter and almost every kids we know it seems is becoming sexually deviant and confused about morals. Or suicidal.

[justme]

My kids are only 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, but I am trying my best to teach them that marriage is ONE MAN AND A WOMAN. We have the Proclamation prominently displayed in our home, and I am constantly trying to instill in them the joys of motherhood and fatherhood.

I often ask, if my kids live to be old men and women (70, 80 y/o) what in the hades will this world look like then?? This might sound dumb, but I literally pray for the Lord to return. I plead with him to, and sometimes I even get emotional in doing so. I honestly urge everyone who feels like mike_rumble and similarly minded people to do the same. It might not hasten the day, but we need to make our voices heard.

So honest and sincere question Gangbuster. What do you if one of your children turns out to be gay? I know some earnestly believe that kids are not born that way, but that just doesn't seem to be the reality. It can happen in the best of families regardless of their upbringing.

[I AM]

My kids are only 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, but I am trying my best to teach them that marriage is ONE MAN AND A WOMAN. We have the Proclamation prominently displayed in our home, and I am constantly trying to instill in them the joys of motherhood and fatherhood.

I often ask, if my kids live to be old men and women (70, 80 y/o) what in the hades will this world look like then?? This might sound dumb, but I literally pray for the Lord to return. I plead with him to, and sometimes I even get emotional in doing so. I honestly urge everyone who feels like mike_rumble and similarly minded people to do the same. It might not hasten the day, but we need to make our voices heard.

When I was a kid I remember some saying that iirc came from an apostle or prophet that Christ would come when the saints begged Him to.... Now maybe that was a rumour, but I know more and more people who are doing the above.

Perhaps it would help to know that the saints praying for the Lord's coming is scriptural, in D&C 133 we read:

36 And now, verily saith the Lord, that these things might be known among you, O inhabitants of the earth, I have sent forth mine angel flying through the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel, who hath appeared unto some and hath committed it unto man, who shall appear unto many that dwell on the earth.
37 And this gospel shall be preached unto every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people.
38 And the servants of God shall go forth, saying with a loud voice: Fear God and give glory to him, for the hour of his judgment is come;
39 And worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters—
40 Calling upon the name of the Lord day and night, saying: O that thou wouldst rend the heavens, that thou wouldst come down, that the mountains might flow down at thy presence.
41 And it shall be answered upon their heads; for the presence of the Lord shall be as the melting fire that burneth, and as the fire which causeth the waters to boil.
42 O Lord, thou shalt come down to make thy name known to thine adversaries, and all nations shall tremble at thy presence—
43 When thou doest terrible things, things they look not for;
44 Yea, when thou comest down, and the mountains flow down at thy presence, thou shalt meet him who rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, who remembereth thee in thy ways.
45 For since the beginning of the world have not men heard nor perceived by the ear, neither hath any eye seen, O God, besides thee, how great things thou hast prepared for him that waiteth for thee.

It surely won't be long now... as President Nelson said in 2018, "Wait till next year and then the next year... it's going to be exciting"! And what is the antecedent of "it's"? I think it is exactly what he spoke about in April conference in 2018 when he said, "Our Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ, will perform some of His mightiest works between now and when He comes again. We will see miraculous indications that God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, preside over this Church in majesty and glory." Sound like Adam Ondi Ahman? I think so too!!!

Free book download... www.thebridegroomcometh.net/book

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wishful thinking ?
I really wish members would read their scriptures more.

and I think we've had this discussion before
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... ar#p901254

ya, I can't "wait tell next year", with the times of the Gentiles being fulfilled
and the judgments come down on the church due to their apostasy, along with all the Gentiles in the U.S.
and the saints are taken captive and put in bondage for their idolatry. (see scriptures at bottom)
Idolatry always has resulted in captivity.

I think you have it a little bit backwards on who's who, and the reversal, and WHO the Lord
will be favoring, with the gospel being taken from us and going back to the House of Israel.
We had our chance.
The gospel and the power and authority is now
going back to the House of Israel

*** "I will bring the fulness of my gospel from among them."

3 Nephi 16:10,11,12
10 And thus commandeth the Father that I should say unto you: At that day when the Gentiles shall sin against my gospel, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, and shall be lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations, and above all the people of the whole earth, and shall be filled with all manner of lyings, and of deceits, and of mischiefs, and all manner of hypocrisy, and murders, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, and of secret abominations; and if they shall do all those things, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, behold, saith the Father,
I will bring the fulness of my gospel from among them.

11 And then will I remember my covenant which I have made unto my people, O house of Israel, and I will bring my gospel unto them.
12 And I will show unto thee, O house of Israel, that the Gentiles shall not have power over you; but I will remember my covenant unto you, O house of Israel, and ye shall come unto the knowledge of the fulness of my gospel.


Again, I think you're a little mixed up about your interpretation of Isaiah 54.
The 2 woman (one righteous, the other wicked), in the scripture below represent (1) the Lord's ancient covenant people -the House of Israel, which the Lord is now turning back to and the gospel going back to,
and (2) "the the other wicked wife currently married, whom Jehovah now rejects for her unfaithfulness:" represents the church and our apostasy which I've outlined in red.


Isaiah 54

1 Sing, O barren woman who did not give birth;
break into jubilant song, you who were not in labor.
The children of the deserted wife
shall outnumber those of the espoused, says Jehovah.

Isaiah’s depicting Jehovah’s people as two cities, one righteous, the other wicked, has a parallel in two women or wives, one faithful, the other unfaithful. The imagery of a woman who typifies Jehovah’s covenant relationship with his people thus divides into that of two women: (1) “a wife married in youth only to be rejected” for her unfaithfulness, but whom Jehovah now remarries (vv 5-6); and (2) the wife currently married, whom Jehovah now rejects for her unfaithfulness: “Surely by sinning you sold yourselves; because of your crimes is your mother cast off” (Isaiah 50:1; cf. 1:21; 57:3-13).


*** A reversal of circumstances takes place when the natural lineages of Jehovah’s people who anciently rejected their covenant Lord renew their relationship with him—while, at the same time, the assimilated lineages of his people who displaced them now reject him through their idolatries (Isaiah 42:17; 44:15; 45:20; 46:1-2). In the millennial age of peace, the “children” or “sons” (banim) who are born to the remarried spouse—a chief covenant blessing—far exceed those of the spouse who is cast off. She who was “barren” during the intervening centuries has cause to rejoice (Isaiah 49:20-22).

2 Expand the site of your tent;
extend the canopies of your dwellings.
Do not hold back; lengthen your cords
and strengthen your stakes.
3 For you shall spread abroad
to the right and to the left;
your offspring shall dispossess the nations
and resettle the desolate cities.

In the millennial age of peace, promised lands—a second chief covenant blessing—consist not only of the ones Jehovah promised Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob but also others of his people who lived as righteously as they did. As all promised lands are covenant blessings, and as Jehovah gave Abraham the land stretching from the Euphrates to the Nile (Genesis 15:18), additional promised lands follow the same pattern. When blessing his son Joseph, Jacob could thus declare, “The blessings of your father have exceeded the blessings of my progenitors to the utmost bounds of the primeval hills” (Genesis 49:26).

Although the Zion/Jerusalem category of Jehovah’s people inherits promised lands conditionally, as Israel did anciently—conditional on keeping the terms of the Sinai covenant—the son/servant category and levels higher inherit promised lands unconditionally. The Woman Zion, whom Jehovah marries, inherits the place Zion to which she returns (Isaiah 35:10; 51:11; 60:8-9), where Jehovah protects her in his Day of Judgment (Isaiah 4:5-6; 14:32; 46:13) and where he comes to reign (Isaiah 52:8; 59:20; 62:11). From there, however, she spreads abroad and inherits the lands of her oppressors.

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Are you ready for the reenactment of Egypt ?
These things are sad, but TRUE !
We WILL be in bondage.

This scripture clearly shows that we (the saints) will be taken captive for
"time and times and the dividing of time" - or 3 and a half years.
and proves that we will be in bondage - just as D&C 103:17 says we will.
Daniel 7:21
21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand
until a time and times and the dividing of time.

D&C 103

15 "Behold, I say unto you, the redemption of Zion must needs come by power;
16 Therefore, I will raise up unto my people a man, who shall lead them like as Moses led the children of Israel.
17 For ye are the children of Israel, and of the seed of Abraham, and ye must needs be led out of bondage by power, and with a stretched-out arm.
18 And as your fathers were led at the first, even so shall the redemption of Zion be."

[Rwp]

My husband and I feel so weary raising our children in these days. We could not imagine 10 years ago the world looking as it does now. We also pray for the Lord's return. I used to pray for more time. Now I just feel like there is no going back from where the world has gone so the faster He gets here, the better. Though, truthfully, I understand it will get terribly worse. And that's a very sad thought.

[gangbusters]

My kids are only 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, but I am trying my best to teach them that marriage is ONE MAN AND A WOMAN. We have the Proclamation prominently displayed in our home, and I am constantly trying to instill in them the joys of motherhood and fatherhood.

I often ask, if my kids live to be old men and women (70, 80 y/o) what in the hades will this world look like then?? This might sound dumb, but I literally pray for the Lord to return. I plead with him to, and sometimes I even get emotional in doing so. I honestly urge everyone who feels like mike_rumble and similarly minded people to do the same. It might not hasten the day, but we need to make our voices heard.

So honest and sincere question Gangbuster. What do you if one of your children turns out to be gay? I know some earnestly believe that kids are not born that way, but that just doesn't seem to be the reality. It can happen in the best of families regardless of their upbringing.

I’ve wondered many times what I’d do. I’d love him of course, but I’d tell him that such conduct is against God’s law. And I sure as heck wouldn’t forsake my covenants just because my son is gay and couldn’t get married in the temple because of his sinful actions like many have.

[Original_Intent]

As big of an issue as this is, and not to be dismissive of it at all....

There is a storm approaching that this will just be a dust devil compared to a hurricane.

I've been feeling like "5 more years, at most" since 1992. We are being allowed to ripen in iniquity to an extent that I did not expect.

We are already to the point that I don't even think repentance on a large scale is even possible - just the cleansing by fire.

[oneClimbs]

Teach doctrines and principles. The lifeblood of pop culture is the fad. What is popular now will be rejected for a new toy later. Doctrine and principles remain constant, it's important to show that.

[I AM]

My kids are only 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, but I am trying my best to teach them that marriage is ONE MAN AND A WOMAN. We have the Proclamation prominently displayed in our home, and I am constantly trying to instill in them the joys of motherhood and fatherhood.

I often ask, if my kids live to be old men and women (70, 80 y/o) what in the hades will this world look like then?? This might sound dumb, but I literally pray for the Lord to return. I plead with him to, and sometimes I even get emotional in doing so. I honestly urge everyone who feels like mike_rumble and similarly minded people to do the same. It might not hasten the day, but we need to make our voices heard.

When I was a kid I remember some saying that iirc came from an apostle or prophet that Christ would come when the saints begged Him to.... Now maybe that was a rumour, but I know more and more people who are doing the above.

Perhaps it would help to know that the saints praying for the Lord's coming is scriptural, in D&C 133 we read:

36 And now, verily saith the Lord, that these things might be known among you, O inhabitants of the earth, I have sent forth mine angel flying through the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel, who hath appeared unto some and hath committed it unto man, who shall appear unto many that dwell on the earth.
37 And this gospel shall be preached unto every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people.
38 And the servants of God shall go forth, saying with a loud voice: Fear God and give glory to him, for the hour of his judgment is come;
39 And worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters—
40 Calling upon the name of the Lord day and night, saying: O that thou wouldst rend the heavens, that thou wouldst come down, that the mountains might flow down at thy presence.
41 And it shall be answered upon their heads; for the presence of the Lord shall be as the melting fire that burneth, and as the fire which causeth the waters to boil.
42 O Lord, thou shalt come down to make thy name known to thine adversaries, and all nations shall tremble at thy presence—
43 When thou doest terrible things, things they look not for;
44 Yea, when thou comest down, and the mountains flow down at thy presence, thou shalt meet him who rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, who remembereth thee in thy ways.
45 For since the beginning of the world have not men heard nor perceived by the ear, neither hath any eye seen, O God, besides thee, how great things thou hast prepared for him that waiteth for thee.

It surely won't be long now... as President Nelson said in 2018, "Wait till next year and then the next year... it's going to be exciting"! And what is the antecedent of "it's"? I think it is exactly what he spoke about in April conference in 2018 when he said, "Our Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ, will perform some of His mightiest works between now and when He comes again. We will see miraculous indications that God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, preside over this Church in majesty and glory." Sound like Adam Ondi Ahman? I think so too!!!

Free book download... www.thebridegroomcometh.net/book

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wishful thinking ?
I really wish members would read their scriptures more.

and I think we've had this discussion before
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... ar#p901254

ya, I can't "wait tell next year", with the times of the Gentiles being fulfilled
and the judgments come down on the church due to their apostasy, along with all the Gentiles in the U.S.
and the saints are taken captive and put in bondage for their idolatry. (see scriptures at bottom)
Idolatry always has resulted in captivity.

I think you have it a little bit backwards on who's who, and the reversal, and WHO the Lord
will be favoring, with the gospel being taken from us and going back to the House of Israel.
We had our chance.
The gospel and the power and authority is now
going back to the House of Israel

*** "I will bring the fulness of my gospel from among them."

3 Nephi 16:10,11,12
10 And thus commandeth the Father that I should say unto you: At that day when the Gentiles shall sin against my gospel, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, and shall be lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations, and above all the people of the whole earth, and shall be filled with all manner of lyings, and of deceits, and of mischiefs, and all manner of hypocrisy, and murders, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, and of secret abominations; and if they shall do all those things, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, behold, saith the Father,
I will bring the fulness of my gospel from among them.

11 And then will I remember my covenant which I have made unto my people, O house of Israel, and I will bring my gospel unto them.
12 And I will show unto thee, O house of Israel, that the Gentiles shall not have power over you; but I will remember my covenant unto you, O house of Israel, and ye shall come unto the knowledge of the fulness of my gospel.


Again, I think you're a little mixed up about your interpretation of Isaiah 54.
The 2 woman (one righteous, the other wicked), in the scripture below represent (1) the Lord's ancient covenant people -the House of Israel, which the Lord is now turning back to and the gospel going back to,
and (2) "the the other wicked wife currently married, whom Jehovah now rejects for her unfaithfulness:" represents the church and our apostasy which I've outlined in red.


Isaiah 54

1 Sing, O barren woman who did not give birth;
break into jubilant song, you who were not in labor.
The children of the deserted wife
shall outnumber those of the espoused, says Jehovah.

Isaiah’s depicting Jehovah’s people as two cities, one righteous, the other wicked, has a parallel in two women or wives, one faithful, the other unfaithful. The imagery of a woman who typifies Jehovah’s covenant relationship with his people thus divides into that of two women: (1) “a wife married in youth only to be rejected” for her unfaithfulness, but whom Jehovah now remarries (vv 5-6); and (2) the wife currently married, whom Jehovah now rejects for her unfaithfulness: “Surely by sinning you sold yourselves; because of your crimes is your mother cast off” (Isaiah 50:1; cf. 1:21; 57:3-13).


*** A reversal of circumstances takes place when the natural lineages of Jehovah’s people who anciently rejected their covenant Lord renew their relationship with him—while, at the same time, the assimilated lineages of his people who displaced them now reject him through their idolatries (Isaiah 42:17; 44:15; 45:20; 46:1-2). In the millennial age of peace, the “children” or “sons” (banim) who are born to the remarried spouse—a chief covenant blessing—far exceed those of the spouse who is cast off. She who was “barren” during the intervening centuries has cause to rejoice (Isaiah 49:20-22).

2 Expand the site of your tent;
extend the canopies of your dwellings.
Do not hold back; lengthen your cords
and strengthen your stakes.
3 For you shall spread abroad
to the right and to the left;
your offspring shall dispossess the nations
and resettle the desolate cities.

In the millennial age of peace, promised lands—a second chief covenant blessing—consist not only of the ones Jehovah promised Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob but also others of his people who lived as righteously as they did. As all promised lands are covenant blessings, and as Jehovah gave Abraham the land stretching from the Euphrates to the Nile (Genesis 15:18), additional promised lands follow the same pattern. When blessing his son Joseph, Jacob could thus declare, “The blessings of your father have exceeded the blessings of my progenitors to the utmost bounds of the primeval hills” (Genesis 49:26).

Although the Zion/Jerusalem category of Jehovah’s people inherits promised lands conditionally, as Israel did anciently—conditional on keeping the terms of the Sinai covenant—the son/servant category and levels higher inherit promised lands unconditionally. The Woman Zion, whom Jehovah marries, inherits the place Zion to which she returns (Isaiah 35:10; 51:11; 60:8-9), where Jehovah protects her in his Day of Judgment (Isaiah 4:5-6; 14:32; 46:13) and where he comes to reign (Isaiah 52:8; 59:20; 62:11). From there, however, she spreads abroad and inherits the lands of her oppressors.

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Are you ready for the reenactment of Egypt ?
These things are sad, but TRUE !
We WILL be in bondage.

This scripture clearly shows that we (the saints) will be taken captive for
"time and times and the dividing of time" - or 3 and a half years.
and proves that we will be in bondage - just as D&C 103:17 says we will.
Daniel 7:21
21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand
until a time and times and the dividing of time.

D&C 103

15 "Behold, I say unto you, the redemption of Zion must needs come by power;
16 Therefore, I will raise up unto my people a man, who shall lead them like as Moses led the children of Israel.
17 For ye are the children of Israel, and of the seed of Abraham, and ye must needs be led out of bondage by power, and with a stretched-out arm.
18 And as your fathers were led at the first, even so shall the redemption of Zion be."

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interesting what this guy says - being a Christian,
not being a member or knowing our scriptures.

BECAUSE YE TURNED NOT
- July 17, 2019
2 Chronicles 36:16
But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the Lord arose against his people, till there was no remedy.

Transcript:
Because ye turned NOT back to Me, I will bring about the Four Judgments very quickly. (This refers to the Four Judgments the Lord told me that are coming upon America - the Season of Hurricanes, Season of Earthquakes/Volcanoes, Season of Great Waves, and Invasion.)

I have placed My king in the office of the president to bring about the judgments on this Nation. Just as I put king after king in Israel, they REFUSED TO REPENT and follow after My statutes, so has this nation been given every chance to repent, BUT WILL NOT.

Oh, you say, but SOME of the people ARE REPENTING, and yes, they are and I hear them. But My People who are called by My Name (Christians) will NOT humble themselves and TURN from their evil ways!

So it was with My People in Israel. It was NOT UNTIL they went into CAPTIVITY or were SLAIN by the sword that they TURNED from their ways! My Bride is full of sin and does NOT want to TURN and run from sin! Instead, My Bride LOVES the sin and embraces it!!

WOE to the people of America!! WOE to My Bride in America, for the testing will begin in My house first!!

I will tear down ALL the altars of sin to other gods! I will destroy the buildings that men worship! I will slay ALL those who have brought shame on My Name!

The false teachers and preachers who rob from the people and Me to live in lavish mansions will be as beggars on the street! They will perish as Jezebel perished! False prophets and seers that spout lies will burn with fire, for they neither see or hear Me, but say they do and use My Name in vain!

WOE to the people who sit each week and listen to the lies and think they are holy! I will bring these judgments upon them to test them. Many will perish for lack of faith. Many will perish for lack of knowledge, for they NEVER read My Word, but trust in the words of the false teachers and do NOT trust Me!

My son, My anger is kindled against this boasting Nation who do not hear! ONLY MY REMNANT HEAR My voice and write as you do, as not to forget what I have said. My judgment is being poured out as I speak to you.

My son, I repent for the anger that I have spoken of - the Judgments I have decreed cannot be stopped. P eople are praying and asking Me to remove the storms, to stop the Judgments, but I do not hear them. They should be REPENTING for the sin they are in and the sin of this wretched Nation!!

My son, just as you had to use a stronger chemical to rid your pets of parasites, I too have to use stronger methods to get a stiff-necked people to repent!! (This is referring to our pets that got fleas, and at first we used a safer, all natural treatment on them. It worked pretty good, but didn't get rid of the fleas, so we then had to apply a stronger chemical method.)

As I said before, REPENTANCE ALWAYS COMES WITH CAPTIVITY - THE LAST JUDGMENT.

Just as I moved Babylon to capture Israel, true repentance came in time, but many perished in the process, as many will perish now.

My son, I know this is a hard saying today, and I see your tears as you write this. (The Lord has given me many visions of the coming judgments, death and destruction, and I was weeping because I have seen and know of the unbelievable horrors that are coming upon the sleeping Church and the people in this nation.)

But My Word is true. Those that seek Me, find Me. If you abide in Me, I will abide in you. Continue seeking Me with ALL your heart, and I will come in and sup with you.

I love you so very much!
Amen.
Messiah Jesus

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"And upon my house shall it begin"
D&C 112:24-26
24 Behold, vengeance cometh speedily upon the inhabitants of the earth, a day of wrath, a day of burning, a day of desolation, of weeping, of mourning, and of lamentation; and as a whirlwind it shall come upon all the face of the earth, saith the Lord.

25 And upon my house shall it begin, and from my house shall it go forth, saith the Lord;

26 First among those among you, saith the Lord, who have professed to know my name and have not known me, and have blasphemed against me in the midst of my house, saith the Lord.
(This blasphemy includes false doctrines.)

[eddie]

Sometimes I pick up my grandaughter from school, the things she tells me that she has learned is unbelieveable. She told me one day that we have to accept the gay lifestyle. I have to debrief her and explain that we don't have to accept anything. We have our own beliefs and nobody should try and change that. We don't persecute them but we don't have to accept it. Morals and beliefs should be taught at home, reading writing and arithmatic at school.

Just out of curiosity, what State do you live in and how old is she? My husband and I want to homeschool but, I, truthfully feel overwhelmed. But my daughter and almost every kids we know it seems is becoming sexually deviant and confused about morals. Or suicidal.

Home schooling is very difficult and you must be a disciplinarian. If you cannot set firm boundaries, don't try. However, we did it for a couple of years some time ago, and when the children were older we let them attend public school, which wasn't quite so bad at that time. If my children were young again, I don't know if I could let them go to public school, but I can't convince the parents of my grandchildren to home school. The age of accountability is 8, I would definitely keep them home till then.
Don't set yourself up for failure, if you are overwhelmed home school might push you over the edge.

[Dave62]

Sometimes I pick up my grandaughter from school, the things she tells me that she has learned is unbelieveable. She told me one day that we have to accept the gay lifestyle. I have to debrief her and explain that we don't have to accept anything. We have our own beliefs and nobody should try and change that. We don't persecute them but we don't have to accept it. Morals and beliefs should be taught at home, reading writing and arithmatic at school.

Just out of curiosity, what State do you live in and how old is she? My husband and I want to homeschool but, I, truthfully feel overwhelmed. But my daughter and almost every kids we know it seems is becoming sexually deviant and confused about morals. Or suicidal.

Home schooling is very difficult and you must be a disciplinarian. If you cannot set firm boundaries, don't try. However, we did it for a couple of years some time ago, and when the children were older we let them attend public school, which wasn't quite so bad at that time. If my children were young again, I don't know if I could let them go to public school, but I can't convince the parents of my grandchildren to home school. The age of accountability is 8, I would definitely keep them home till then.
Don't set yourself up for failure, if you are overwhelmed home school might push you over the edge.

I am a high school teacher in Australia. I home schooled both of my children through high school while my wife supported us financially. It was very, very hard and takes a lot of commitment and effort. But for us, I think it was worth it. My son is an officer in the Australian Army and my daughter is a high school teacher; both with firm testimonies of Jesus, and so I can say with hindsight that homeschooling possible had something to do with our success. Faced with the prospect of raising children now (heaven forbid!) I would probably do it again.

[rimbauer.peter]

Amidst evil, Christlessness, immorality, faithlessness can we really show our faith and steadfastness. Holding onto the rod, the continuous influence of the Holy Ghost and the sure word of Christ will tell us what to do and will help us to overcome. If you do this, you are my kinda people and I can also rely on you to build up spiritual and physical Zion.

[simpleton]

Sometimes I pick up my grandaughter from school, the things she tells me that she has learned is unbelieveable. She told me one day that we have to accept the gay lifestyle. I have to debrief her and explain that we don't have to accept anything. (this is just as sick as it gets)
We have our own beliefs and nobody should try and change that. We don't persecute them but we don't have to accept it. Morals and beliefs should be taught at home, reading writing and arithmatic at school.

Just out of curiosity, what State do you live in and how old is she? My husband and I want to homeschool but, I, truthfully feel overwhelmed. But my daughter and almost every kids we know it seems is becoming sexually deviant and confused about morals. Or suicidal.

Home schooling is very difficult and you must be a disciplinarian. If you cannot set firm boundaries, don't try. However, we did it for a couple of years some time ago, and when the children were older we let them attend public school, which wasn't quite so bad at that time. If my children were young again, I don't know if I could let them go to public school, but I can't convince the parents of my grandchildren to home school. The age of accountability is 8, I would definitely keep them home till then.
Don't set yourself up for failure, if you are overwhelmed home school might push you over the edge.

We will, or I suppose most parents would, fight to the death to protect our children from a molester, a killer, a bully etc, pretty much keep them from any physical harm if at all possible. But, isn't it actually astounding, that we will turn our precious children over to the devil himself, or devils in human form, to teach and train them into debauchery, sodomy, pedophilia, teach them transgender is an option, into gays and lesbians, into worshiping sports and sport stars, we let all of this ungodly music influence them,( for that matter we've all gone through it and have been brain fried dried, ourselves ) we give them the tv remote control to fry their brains, we let them play violent, bloody, sexual video games, we train them to excell one above another in all aspects of life. Then as they get older we send them off to crapville colleges/university's to completely finish frying their brains, because, well we did it also.
We as parents, and our parents and our parents parents are going to answer to God Himself for these things. God entrusted our children to us to teach and train in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. But what do we do? We teach the corporate rules and laws and regulations of the "systemic church".
Let's just be honest with ourselves and with our way of life and with our B.S. self righteous mentality. We, as LDS, as a whole, are a miserable failure. Our lights do not shine at all, ( as a whole that is, as an institution. There are a few scattered here and there that are the " humble, contrite, without guile, honest, meek, lowly followers of The Son). But we as a whole are a disgrace to the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Why do we insist on sending our kids to hell? Why do we have this unquenchable lust after the glory of this world? Why do we need to excell in everything, or anything worldly. Why do we consume our lives continually striving to receive the approval of Babylon. We as a whole, as a Church as a corporate institution, have gone out of our way, to join hands with Babylon, the devil and all hell. It's like we can't do it fast enough. The PR department of the church, (along with most other departments) have joined hands with the devil himself. You cannot compromise the Gospel of The Glorious Son. Yet we have completely. Or just about completely. If we have not completely, we are sure on the fast moving train to hell with no brakes.
It is depressing to read the above comments about picking up our children from school and try and "detox" their innocent brains from the toxic drool that emits from our public schools and teachers.
Again, we will fight to the death to protect the physical well being of our children, yet let those wicked bastards teach our children their damnable filthy sodomy and that filthy transgender garbage. And then to cap it off, the bastards will charge you, as a parent, for denying your children the "right" to be gay or transgender or any other ungodly wicked adulterated twisted perversion.
I say pull your kids the hell out of their ungodly institutions. And yesterday!. Quit crying the baby blues about how hard it is. You think it's hard to homeschool? Just imagine yourself at the judgement bar of God Almighty, looking at your spiritually dead, spiritually brain fried sodomite children. And you having to answer for their sins. And you will have to. Because you neglected to protect that which most precious above all, their souls!!!!!
Awake!! Awake!! Oh Isreal...
It actually pains me to think of the sick perverted corruptions we are teaching our children by substitution. You my friends, are completely responsible for the spiritual welfare of your children. ( and when I say you, that finger is pointed at me directly also) I would not send my worst enemy to public school. I did send my kids for a year to public schools some years ago , and it was a big mistake.
I'll just relay what God told an LDS father that adamantly refused to let his concerned wife homeschool their precious innocent children. And it ought to be shouted from the rooftops, so let's shout it out here: IF YOUR CHILDREN NEVER LEARNED ANOTHER THING, THEY WOULD BE BETTER OFF AT HOME WITH THEIR MOTHER. And that my friends is coming from your God and my God.
I, am not against "education" , but I am against us frying our children spiritually. Brigham Young was adamantly against the "federally free" public school system. That is literally designed to take your children away from you, And it was from the beginning. Historically, in Utah, in the late 1800,s the Presbyterian church built/ opened 90 "free" schools there. With the explicit intent to turn our children against Mormonism. Or least take our precious little "nits" and turn them into corrupted "lice"
As they figured that they can't beat Mormonism out if us, but, they sure can corrupt the Mormonism within us. As also the Federal Government. And look and behold, here we are today, fully corrupted. But we brought it upon ourselves with our unsatiated desire for the things and lifestyle and glory of Babylon.
And I dont want to hear about how "president Nielson" is spreading the good word. The only word he is spreading is more corporate PR political correctness, and a polluted version of the gospel. Yes you read correctly " A polluted corrupted version of the Gospel", and that is the reason why our children, our brothers and sisters, our parents, our aunts, uncles, grandparents grandchildren, friends and enemies are turning into sodomites, transgenders, pedophiles, molesters, businessmen, doctors, Lawyers, etc.
Now some most definitely will howl their heads off at, how dare I say such things "against the Lords anointed". But I say, a truly anointed Prophet/Shepard that is in tune with God Almighty would not suffer the filthy sodomites/ transgenders/soul destroyers to hold hands with and corrupt our precious children.
But there is a bigger evil lurking. And that is the fact that we have suffered ourselves to be corrupted from within, and that is a direct cause or curse if you will of our rejection of the Truth, and our rejection of, and eliminating or corrupting the fullness of the Gospel. And sorry to say it starts at the top. The shepard's are responsible for protecting the precious flock. But now we are told by preaching and example to strike hands with the perverts, to help celebrate their " uniqueness" to by kind to them " as Jesus would do". Yet the good books clearly point out that we should be completely separate from Babylon and its demonic influences. And even I myself am not, just so you do not think I am " looking for a following" or trying to set myself up. I am a nobody at all, just a pile of worthless corrupted flesh, a sinner, that has much to repent of, a nobody nothing, less than the dust of the earth.
Let me post Apostle Paul again for what it is worth as it completely fits us very depressingly, eerily correct. And maybe perchance some few might open their eyes of understanding and turn around.
Roman's 1:

Romans 1 King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)

3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;

10 Making request, if by any means now at length I might have a prosperous journey by the will of God to come unto you.

11 For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;

12 That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me.

13 Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles.

14 I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise.

15 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Read it over again as many times as necessary, without a prejudice mind, have your mind like a white piece of paper ready for the Master to indelibly print upon that paper what He is very clearly saying. And also as you read it, apply it to us, as if we are those people. Which actually we are, or at the very least we are guilty of the same as they were back then. But as truth is eternal, and as the rejection of truth, throughout eternity, has the same consequences or curses, you can see what is transpiring right amidst us here and now in Mormondom. And what may we ask is that? Let mormon society and our churches speak for themselves. And the voices I hear, is that sodomy, LGBTQ, transgender is running rampant. I say it is because that we, as Apostle Paul very clearly points out, have rejected the Truth and have twisted it and perverted it and have rejected the fullness thereof. And because of it, we as a religious people. that are supposed to have our light shine, have instead rejected what has been in conflict with the world. And so, because of it we are literally being cursed, we as in all of our families to greater or lesser degrees are being cursed with a "Reprobate spirit" or rather reprobate spirits, legions of them, and I am sorry but to coddle them like The president on down through the lowliest of priesthood does
And there you have it, the specific reason why homosexuality/ lesbians and transgenders and perverts and child molesters and all other misc corruptions are affecting us.
"To your tents oh Isreal"....

Ok, I've ranted enough for one time. But there is plenty more in the recesses of my twisted mind. I do not intend to offend but to hopefully touch some soul, but by no means for any glory at all to me. Look to God, not to corrupted man. And may God have mercy upon us in our very lost and fallen and sick corrupted state.

Once again worth repeating and will be an ongoing continual comment, : GET YOUR PRECIOUS CHILDREN THE HELL OUT OF THE PUBLIC PORNOGRAPHIC PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM. An ounce of prevention is worth an eternity of spiritual cure.
If you want a place of refuge from this eminent coming storm, seek and ye shall find, but it will not be in Babylon by no means.
I really feel like the very powers of hell are gathering their thick dark clouds and chains tightly around us.
PM if you want to truly escape from Babylon.

[simpleton]

Amidst evil, Christlessness, immorality, faithlessness can we really show our faith and steadfastness. Holding onto the rod, the continuous influence of the Holy Ghost and the sure word of Christ will tell us what to do and will help us to overcome. If you do this, you are my kinda people and I can also rely on you to build up spiritual and physical Zion.

That rod as we all know, is the word of God, but the leading powers that be have corrupted it. Actually they have been replacing it with " the corporate word/agenda" and are polluting the "Holy words of Christ" and are substituting political correctness for the words of Christ, or if you will, making "political correctness" the words of Christ. And it is caused by our truly "not" loving Christ but yet living to bask in our pride with a hollow empty shell of a religion that we think will take us to the celestial kingdom, and put His name and marble statues all over it.
We are exactly like the Pharisees, Sadducees, and members back in Christs day before the pentecost. Although, I should say that there are promises that there will be a repentant remnant. Which I think will also be along very similar lines as unto the converted people that were converted by the Apostles after the Crucifixion. ...
And I believe that is yet to transpire in the near future.