What is the half hour of silence?

[friendsofthe]

The half-hour of silence begins at the opening of the seventh seal. This will be when the Lord makes His first appearance to his saints as the Bridegroom. I believe that President Nelson made reference to this very near-future even when he said:

"Our Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ, will perform some of His mightiest works between now and when He comes again. We will see miraculous indications that God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, preside over this Church in majesty and glory."

It should be obvious to all that Jesus Christ will "preside" again when he receives back various keys as we read in Daniel:

13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom.

So it appears that President Nelson has adopted the McConkie model of the Second Coming where the events of Adam Ondi Ahman are considered a prelude to the Second Coming rather than the first appearance as it is in the Benson model...

[righteousrepublic]

The half-hour of silence begins at the opening of the seventh seal. This will be when the Lord makes His first appearance to his saints as the Bridegroom. I believe that President Nelson made reference to this very near-future even when he said:

"Our Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ, will perform some of His mightiest works between now and when He comes again. We will see miraculous indications that God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, preside over this Church in majesty and glory."

It should be obvious to all that Jesus Christ will "preside" again when he receives back various keys as we read in Daniel:

13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom.

So it appears that President Nelson has adopted the McConkie model of the Second Coming where the events of Adam Ondi Ahman are considered a prelude to the Second Coming rather than the first appearance as it is in the Benson model...

Read D&C 88:86-110 This is about as chronological as it can get. Once the seventh seal is opened there will be a massive, world wide earthquake making the earth reel to and fro and so forth, ...then comes the half hour of silence, followed by the sun being darkened at Christ's coming. This is how I read it anyway. What do you think?

I do strongly believe that we have not entered into the half hour of silence because the severity of the calamities listed have not occurred yet. Why we haven't even had the two witnesses go to Jerusalem and be killed in the streets and then rise after three days.

[friendsofthe]

The half-hour of silence begins at the opening of the seventh seal. This will be when the Lord makes His first appearance to his saints as the Bridegroom. I believe that President Nelson made reference to this very near-future even when he said:

"Our Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ, will perform some of His mightiest works between now and when He comes again. We will see miraculous indications that God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, preside over this Church in majesty and glory."

It should be obvious to all that Jesus Christ will "preside" again when he receives back various keys as we read in Daniel:

13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom.

So it appears that President Nelson has adopted the McConkie model of the Second Coming where the events of Adam Ondi Ahman are considered a prelude to the Second Coming rather than the first appearance as it is in the Benson model...

Read D&C 88:86-110 This is about as chronological as it can get. Once the seventh seal is opened there will be a massive, world wide earthquake making the earth reel to and fro and so forth, ...then comes the half hour of silence, followed by the sun being darkened at Christ's coming. This is how I read it anyway. What do you think?

I do strongly believe that we have not entered into the half hour of silence because the severity of the calamities listed have not occurred yet. Why we haven't even had the two witnesses go to Jerusalem and be killed in the streets and then rise after three days.

You are correct, it's all very chronological. Here's how I see it, we start reading with D&C 88:86

86 Abide ye in the liberty wherewith ye are made free; entangle not yourselves in sin, but let your hands be clean, until the Lord comes.
87 For not many days hence and the earth shall tremble and reel to and fro as a drunken man; and the sun shall hide his face, and shall refuse to give light; and the moon shall be bathed in blood; and the stars shall become exceedingly angry, and shall cast themselves down as a fig that falleth from off a fig tree.
88 And after your testimony cometh wrath and indignation upon the people.
89 For after your testimony cometh the testimony of earthquakes, that shall cause groanings in the midst of her, and men shall fall upon the ground and shall not be able to stand.
90 And also cometh the testimony of the voice of thunderings, and the voice of lightnings, and the voice of tempests, and the voice of the waves of the sea heaving themselves beyond their bounds.
91 And all things shall be in commotion; and surely, men’s hearts shall fail them; for fear shall come upon all people.
92 And angels shall fly through the midst of heaven, crying with a loud voice, sounding the trump of God, saying: Prepare ye, prepare ye, O inhabitants of the earth; for the judgment of our God is come. Behold, and lo, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
93 And immediately there shall appear a great sign in heaven, and all people shall see it together.
94 And another angel shall sound his trump, saying: That great church, the mother of abominations, that made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, that persecuteth the saints of God, that shed their blood—she who sitteth upon many waters, and upon the islands of the sea—behold, she is the tares of the earth; she is bound in bundles; her bands are made strong, no man can loose them; therefore, she is ready to be burned. And he shall sound his trump both long and loud, and all nations shall hear it.

Everything from verse 86 through 94 are sixth seal events. The great earthquake along with the sun being darkened and the moon turned to blood is given us in Rev. 6:12 which is all in the sixth seal. In verse 92 the angels say "Behold, and lo, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him." This is an invitation to go to where Christ will come as the Bridegroom which will be Adam Ondi Ahman. And when we get there what happens? Answer: Verse 93 happens... "And immediately there shall appear a great sign in heaven, and all people shall see it together." This will be the Sign of the Son of Man. So everything to this point, until Christ comes is the sixth seal.

And what happens when Christ comes and the seventh seal is opened? Answer: The half-hour of silence. So you have a 21-year leap forward here, it's still chronological but these verses don't give any details about the events of the half-hour of silence. And what happens at the end of the half-hour of silence? Answer: The Lord's third appearance... This is when he shall "complete the salvation of man, and judge all things, and shall redeem all things" as we are told in D&C 77:12. The Lord's appearance mentioned in D&C 77:12 and D&C 88:95 are one and the same, His third appearance... after the half-hour of silence.

95 And there shall be silence in heaven for the space of half an hour; and immediately after shall the curtain of heaven be unfolded, as a scroll is unfolded after it is rolled up, and the face of the Lord shall be unveiled;

[righteousrepublic]

The half-hour of silence begins at the opening of the seventh seal. This will be when the Lord makes His first appearance to his saints as the Bridegroom. I believe that President Nelson made reference to this very near-future even when he said:

"Our Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ, will perform some of His mightiest works between now and when He comes again. We will see miraculous indications that God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, preside over this Church in majesty and glory."

It should be obvious to all that Jesus Christ will "preside" again when he receives back various keys as we read in Daniel:

13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom.

So it appears that President Nelson has adopted the McConkie model of the Second Coming where the events of Adam Ondi Ahman are considered a prelude to the Second Coming rather than the first appearance as it is in the Benson model...

Read D&C 88:86-110 This is about as chronological as it can get. Once the seventh seal is opened there will be a massive, world wide earthquake making the earth reel to and fro and so forth, ...then comes the half hour of silence, followed by the sun being darkened at Christ's coming. This is how I read it anyway. What do you think?

I do strongly believe that we have not entered into the half hour of silence because the severity of the calamities listed have not occurred yet. Why we haven't even had the two witnesses go to Jerusalem and be killed in the streets and then rise after three days.

You are correct, it's all very chronological. Here's how I see it, we start reading with D&C 88:86

86 Abide ye in the liberty wherewith ye are made free; entangle not yourselves in sin, but let your hands be clean, until the Lord comes.
87 For not many days hence and the earth shall tremble and reel to and fro as a drunken man; and the sun shall hide his face, and shall refuse to give light; and the moon shall be bathed in blood; and the stars shall become exceedingly angry, and shall cast themselves down as a fig that falleth from off a fig tree.
88 And after your testimony cometh wrath and indignation upon the people.
89 For after your testimony cometh the testimony of earthquakes, that shall cause groanings in the midst of her, and men shall fall upon the ground and shall not be able to stand.
90 And also cometh the testimony of the voice of thunderings, and the voice of lightnings, and the voice of tempests, and the voice of the waves of the sea heaving themselves beyond their bounds.
91 And all things shall be in commotion; and surely, men’s hearts shall fail them; for fear shall come upon all people.
92 And angels shall fly through the midst of heaven, crying with a loud voice, sounding the trump of God, saying: Prepare ye, prepare ye, O inhabitants of the earth; for the judgment of our God is come. Behold, and lo, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
93 And immediately there shall appear a great sign in heaven, and all people shall see it together.
94 And another angel shall sound his trump, saying: That great church, the mother of abominations, that made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, that persecuteth the saints of God, that shed their blood—she who sitteth upon many waters, and upon the islands of the sea—behold, she is the tares of the earth; she is bound in bundles; her bands are made strong, no man can loose them; therefore, she is ready to be burned. And he shall sound his trump both long and loud, and all nations shall hear it.

Everything from verse 86 through 94 are sixth seal events. The great earthquake along with the sun being darkened and the moon turned to blood is given us in Rev. 6:12 which is all in the sixth seal. In verse 92 the angels say "Behold, and lo, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him." This is an invitation to go to where Christ will come as the Bridegroom which will be Adam Ondi Ahman. And when we get there what happens? Answer: Verse 93 happens... "And immediately there shall appear a great sign in heaven, and all people shall see it together." This will be the Sign of the Son of Man. So everything to this point, until Christ comes is the sixth seal.

And what happens when Christ comes and the seventh seal is opened? Answer: The half-hour of silence. So you have a 21-year leap forward here, it's still chronological but these verses don't give any details about the events of the half-hour of silence. And what happens at the end of the half-hour of silence? Answer: The Lord's third appearance... This is when he shall "complete the salvation of man, and judge all things, and shall redeem all things" as we are told in D&C 77:12. The Lord's appearance mentioned in D&C 77:12 and D&C 88:95 are one and the same, His third appearance... after the half-hour of silence.

95 And there shall be silence in heaven for the space of half an hour; and immediately after shall the curtain of heaven be unfolded, as a scroll is unfolded after it is rolled up, and the face of the Lord shall be unveiled;

I see the sun darkened, the moon turned to blood and the stars falling after the half our of silence, just prior to his coming down in the clouds. Why? D&C 133

46 And it shall be said: Who is this that cometh down from God in heaven with dyed garments; yea, from the regions which are not known, clothed in his glorious apparel, traveling in the greatness of his strength?

47 And he shall say: I am he who spake in righteousness, mighty to save.

48 And the Lord shall be red in his apparel, and his garments like him that treadeth in the wine-vat.

49 And so great shall be the glory of his presence that the sun shall hide his face in shame, and the moon shall withhold its light, and the stars shall be hurled from their places.

50 And his voice shall be heard: I have trodden the wine-press alone, and have brought judgment upon all people; and none were with me;

51 And I have trampled them in my fury, and I did tread upon them in mine anger, and their blood have I sprinkled upon my garments, and stained all my raiment; for this was the day of vengeance which was in my heart.

56 And the graves of the saints shall be opened; and they shall come forth and stand on the right hand of the Lamb, when he shall stand upon Mount Zion, and upon the holy city, the New Jerusalem; and they shall sing the song of the Lamb, day and night forever and ever.

Isaiah 13
10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.

12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.

13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.

Joel 2:10
Amos 5:18

D&C 45
42 And before the day of the Lord shall come, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon be turned into blood, and the stars fall from heaven.

Which leads back to D&C 88:87 But D&C 133:46-51, 56 defines these events in more detail, because it is explained as to why and how the sun, moon and stars do what they do, IMO.

And all this is right after the half hour of silence.

[Eulate]

8000 years? Jesus showed up in the meridian of time, yes, but you have to count the Millennium and thus you have 8000 years. If the prophet said that the time is running out I don't think we have as much as ten more years. Two or three years is something different though.

[friendsofthe]

The half-hour of silence begins at the opening of the seventh seal. This will be when the Lord makes His first appearance to his saints as the Bridegroom. I believe that President Nelson made reference to this very near-future even when he said:



It should be obvious to all that Jesus Christ will "preside" again when he receives back various keys as we read in Daniel:



So it appears that President Nelson has adopted the McConkie model of the Second Coming where the events of Adam Ondi Ahman are considered a prelude to the Second Coming rather than the first appearance as it is in the Benson model...

Read D&C 88:86-110 This is about as chronological as it can get. Once the seventh seal is opened there will be a massive, world wide earthquake making the earth reel to and fro and so forth, ...then comes the half hour of silence, followed by the sun being darkened at Christ's coming. This is how I read it anyway. What do you think?

I do strongly believe that we have not entered into the half hour of silence because the severity of the calamities listed have not occurred yet. Why we haven't even had the two witnesses go to Jerusalem and be killed in the streets and then rise after three days.

You are correct, it's all very chronological. Here's how I see it, we start reading with D&C 88:86

86 Abide ye in the liberty wherewith ye are made free; entangle not yourselves in sin, but let your hands be clean, until the Lord comes.
87 For not many days hence and the earth shall tremble and reel to and fro as a drunken man; and the sun shall hide his face, and shall refuse to give light; and the moon shall be bathed in blood; and the stars shall become exceedingly angry, and shall cast themselves down as a fig that falleth from off a fig tree.
88 And after your testimony cometh wrath and indignation upon the people.
89 For after your testimony cometh the testimony of earthquakes, that shall cause groanings in the midst of her, and men shall fall upon the ground and shall not be able to stand.
90 And also cometh the testimony of the voice of thunderings, and the voice of lightnings, and the voice of tempests, and the voice of the waves of the sea heaving themselves beyond their bounds.
91 And all things shall be in commotion; and surely, men’s hearts shall fail them; for fear shall come upon all people.
92 And angels shall fly through the midst of heaven, crying with a loud voice, sounding the trump of God, saying: Prepare ye, prepare ye, O inhabitants of the earth; for the judgment of our God is come. Behold, and lo, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
93 And immediately there shall appear a great sign in heaven, and all people shall see it together.
94 And another angel shall sound his trump, saying: That great church, the mother of abominations, that made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, that persecuteth the saints of God, that shed their blood—she who sitteth upon many waters, and upon the islands of the sea—behold, she is the tares of the earth; she is bound in bundles; her bands are made strong, no man can loose them; therefore, she is ready to be burned. And he shall sound his trump both long and loud, and all nations shall hear it.

Everything from verse 86 through 94 are sixth seal events. The great earthquake along with the sun being darkened and the moon turned to blood is given us in Rev. 6:12 which is all in the sixth seal. In verse 92 the angels say "Behold, and lo, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him." This is an invitation to go to where Christ will come as the Bridegroom which will be Adam Ondi Ahman. And when we get there what happens? Answer: Verse 93 happens... "And immediately there shall appear a great sign in heaven, and all people shall see it together." This will be the Sign of the Son of Man. So everything to this point, until Christ comes is the sixth seal.

And what happens when Christ comes and the seventh seal is opened? Answer: The half-hour of silence. So you have a 21-year leap forward here, it's still chronological but these verses don't give any details about the events of the half-hour of silence. And what happens at the end of the half-hour of silence? Answer: The Lord's third appearance... This is when he shall "complete the salvation of man, and judge all things, and shall redeem all things" as we are told in D&C 77:12. The Lord's appearance mentioned in D&C 77:12 and D&C 88:95 are one and the same, His third appearance... after the half-hour of silence.

95 And there shall be silence in heaven for the space of half an hour; and immediately after shall the curtain of heaven be unfolded, as a scroll is unfolded after it is rolled up, and the face of the Lord shall be unveiled;

I see the sun darkened, the moon turned to blood and the stars falling after the half our of silence, just prior to his coming down in the clouds. Why? D&C 133

46 And it shall be said: Who is this that cometh down from God in heaven with dyed garments; yea, from the regions which are not known, clothed in his glorious apparel, traveling in the greatness of his strength?

47 And he shall say: I am he who spake in righteousness, mighty to save.

48 And the Lord shall be red in his apparel, and his garments like him that treadeth in the wine-vat.

49 And so great shall be the glory of his presence that the sun shall hide his face in shame, and the moon shall withhold its light, and the stars shall be hurled from their places.

50 And his voice shall be heard: I have trodden the wine-press alone, and have brought judgment upon all people; and none were with me;

51 And I have trampled them in my fury, and I did tread upon them in mine anger, and their blood have I sprinkled upon my garments, and stained all my raiment; for this was the day of vengeance which was in my heart.

56 And the graves of the saints shall be opened; and they shall come forth and stand on the right hand of the Lamb, when he shall stand upon Mount Zion, and upon the holy city, the New Jerusalem; and they shall sing the song of the Lamb, day and night forever and ever.

Isaiah 13
10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.

12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.

13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.

Joel 2:10
Amos 5:18

D&C 45
42 And before the day of the Lord shall come, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon be turned into blood, and the stars fall from heaven.

Which leads back to D&C 88:87 But D&C 133:46-51, 56 defines these events in more detail, because it is explained as to why and how the sun, moon and stars do what they do, IMO.

And all this is right after the half hour of silence.

D&C 133, Isaiah 13 and D&C 45 all work very well if you are talking about the Lord's first appearance when He comes to the saints at Adam Ondi Ahman but how and where do you work in His appearance to the Jews and His third appearance?

From my perspective it goes like this:
1- Christ appears to the saints at AOA and the half hour of silence begins.
2- Christ appears to the Jews 7 years into the half hour of silence.
3- His third appearance, at the end of the half hour of silence is what D&C 88:95 is talking about. "And there shall be silence in heaven for the space of half an hour; and immediately after shall the curtain of heaven be unfolded, as a scroll is unfolded after it is rolled up, and the face of the Lord shall be unveiled"

[righteousrepublic]

D&C 133, Isaiah 13 and D&C 45 all work very well if you are talking about the Lord's first appearance when He comes to the saints at Adam Ondi Ahman but how and where do you work in His appearance to the Jews and His third appearance?

From my perspective it goes like this:
1- Christ appears to the saints at AOA and the half hour of silence begins.
2- Christ appears to the Jews 7 years into the half hour of silence.
3- His third appearance, at the end of the half hour of silence is what D&C 88:95 is talking about. "And there shall be silence in heaven for the space of half an hour; and immediately after shall the curtain of heaven be unfolded, as a scroll is unfolded after it is rolled up, and the face of the Lord shall be unveiled"

I conclude that when Christ comes the first and second times, he does it in a more secretive fashion as far as the world is concerned, without harsh judgement.

The third time, however, is when he comes wearing red apparel in great power and glory in a day the whole world will be involved, with fierce anger and judgement. This is also the time when all the righteous will be raised up to greet him as he descends. This includes the resurrection of the dead (this is the first resurrection) and those living, all being raised to meet him in the air. When he appears, the sun, moon and stars will shake and do as described in scripture.

D&C 88:95-97
95 And there shall be silence in heaven for the space of half an hour; and immediately after shall the curtain of heaven be unfolded, as a scroll is unfolded after it is rolled up, and the face of the Lord shall be unveiled;

96 And the saints that are upon the earth, who are alive, shall be quickened and be caught up to meet him.

97 And they who have slept in their graves shall come forth, for their graves shall be opened; and they also shall be caught up to meet him in the midst of the pillar of heaven

D&C 29:9-21
9 For the hour is nigh and the day soon at hand when the earth is ripe; and all the proud and they that do wickedly shall be as stubble; and I will burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts, that wickedness shall not be upon the earth;

10 For the hour is nigh, and that which was spoken by mine apostles must be fulfilled; for as they spoke so shall it come to pass;

11 For I will reveal myself from heaven with power and great glory, with all the hosts thereof, and dwell in righteousness with men on earth a thousand years, and the wicked shall not stand.

12 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, and it hath gone forth in a firm decree, by the will of the Father, that mine apostles, the Twelve which were with me in my ministry at Jerusalem, shall stand at my right hand at the day of my coming in a pillar of fire, being clothed with robes of righteousness, with crowns upon their heads, in glory even as I am, to judge the whole house of Israel, even as many as have loved me and kept my commandments, and none else.

13 For a trump shall sound both long and loud, even as upon Mount Sinai, and all the earth shall quake, and they shall come forth—yea, even the dead which died in me, to receive a crown of righteousness, and to be clothed upon, even as I am, to be with me, that we may be one.

14 But, behold, I say unto you that before this great day shall come the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall be turned into blood, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and there shall be greater signs in heaven above and in the earth beneath;

15 And there shall be weeping and wailing among the hosts of men;

16 And there shall be a great hailstorm sent forth to destroy the crops of the earth.

17 And it shall come to pass, because of the wickedness of the world, that I will take vengeance upon the wicked, for they will not repent; for the cup of mine indignation is full; for behold, my blood shall not cleanse them if they hear me not.

18 Wherefore, I the Lord God will send forth flies upon the face of the earth, which shall take hold of the inhabitants thereof, and shall eat their flesh, and shall cause maggots to come in upon them;

19 And their tongues shall be stayed that they shall not utter against me; and their flesh shall fall from off their bones, and their eyes from their sockets;

20 And it shall come to pass that the beasts of the forest and the fowls of the air shall devour them up.

21 And the great and abominable church, which is the whore of all the earth, shall be cast down by devouring fire, according as it is spoken by the mouth of Ezekiel the prophet, who spoke of these things, which have not come to pass but surely must, as I live, for abominations shall not reign.

D&C 43:18
18 For the day cometh that the Lord shall utter his voice out of heaven; the heavens shall shake and the earth shall tremble, and the trump of God shall sound both long and loud, and shall say to the sleeping nations: Ye saints arise and live; ye sinners stay and sleep until I shall call again.

D&D 45:45
45 But before the arm of the Lord shall fall, an angel shall sound his trump, and the saints that have slept shall come forth to meet me in the cloud.

[friendsofthe]

D&C 133, Isaiah 13 and D&C 45 all work very well if you are talking about the Lord's first appearance when He comes to the saints at Adam Ondi Ahman but how and where do you work in His appearance to the Jews and His third appearance?

From my perspective it goes like this:
1- Christ appears to the saints at AOA and the half hour of silence begins.
2- Christ appears to the Jews 7 years into the half hour of silence.
3- His third appearance, at the end of the half hour of silence is what D&C 88:95 is talking about. "And there shall be silence in heaven for the space of half an hour; and immediately after shall the curtain of heaven be unfolded, as a scroll is unfolded after it is rolled up, and the face of the Lord shall be unveiled"

I conclude that when Christ comes the first and second times, he does it in a more secretive fashion as far as the world is concerned, without harsh judgement.

The third time, however, is when he comes wearing red apparel in great power and glory in a day the whole world will be involved, with fierce anger and judgement. This is also the time when all the righteous will be raised up to greet him as he descends. This includes the resurrection of the dead (this is the first resurrection) and those living, all being raised to meet him in the air. When he appears, the sun, moon and stars will shake and do as described in scripture.

D&C 88:95-97
95 And there shall be silence in heaven for the space of half an hour; and immediately after shall the curtain of heaven be unfolded, as a scroll is unfolded after it is rolled up, and the face of the Lord shall be unveiled;

96 And the saints that are upon the earth, who are alive, shall be quickened and be caught up to meet him.

97 And they who have slept in their graves shall come forth, for their graves shall be opened; and they also shall be caught up to meet him in the midst of the pillar of heaven

D&C 29:9-21
9 For the hour is nigh and the day soon at hand when the earth is ripe; and all the proud and they that do wickedly shall be as stubble; and I will burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts, that wickedness shall not be upon the earth;

10 For the hour is nigh, and that which was spoken by mine apostles must be fulfilled; for as they spoke so shall it come to pass;

11 For I will reveal myself from heaven with power and great glory, with all the hosts thereof, and dwell in righteousness with men on earth a thousand years, and the wicked shall not stand.

12 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, and it hath gone forth in a firm decree, by the will of the Father, that mine apostles, the Twelve which were with me in my ministry at Jerusalem, shall stand at my right hand at the day of my coming in a pillar of fire, being clothed with robes of righteousness, with crowns upon their heads, in glory even as I am, to judge the whole house of Israel, even as many as have loved me and kept my commandments, and none else.

13 For a trump shall sound both long and loud, even as upon Mount Sinai, and all the earth shall quake, and they shall come forth—yea, even the dead which died in me, to receive a crown of righteousness, and to be clothed upon, even as I am, to be with me, that we may be one.

14 But, behold, I say unto you that before this great day shall come the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall be turned into blood, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and there shall be greater signs in heaven above and in the earth beneath;

15 And there shall be weeping and wailing among the hosts of men;

16 And there shall be a great hailstorm sent forth to destroy the crops of the earth.

17 And it shall come to pass, because of the wickedness of the world, that I will take vengeance upon the wicked, for they will not repent; for the cup of mine indignation is full; for behold, my blood shall not cleanse them if they hear me not.

18 Wherefore, I the Lord God will send forth flies upon the face of the earth, which shall take hold of the inhabitants thereof, and shall eat their flesh, and shall cause maggots to come in upon them;

19 And their tongues shall be stayed that they shall not utter against me; and their flesh shall fall from off their bones, and their eyes from their sockets;

20 And it shall come to pass that the beasts of the forest and the fowls of the air shall devour them up.

21 And the great and abominable church, which is the whore of all the earth, shall be cast down by devouring fire, according as it is spoken by the mouth of Ezekiel the prophet, who spoke of these things, which have not come to pass but surely must, as I live, for abominations shall not reign.

D&C 43:18
18 For the day cometh that the Lord shall utter his voice out of heaven; the heavens shall shake and the earth shall tremble, and the trump of God shall sound both long and loud, and shall say to the sleeping nations: Ye saints arise and live; ye sinners stay and sleep until I shall call again.

D&D 45:45
45 But before the arm of the Lord shall fall, an angel shall sound his trump, and the saints that have slept shall come forth to meet me in the cloud.

I don't think there is any way you and I are going to come to an agreement where the sequence of events is concerned but let me ask you this... how long till Christ appears at Adam Ondi Ahman? My answer to that question is contained in my book... www.thebridegroomcometh.net/book. It's a free pdf.

[righteousrepublic]

I don't think there is any way you and I are going to come to an agreement where the sequence of events is concerned but let me ask you this... how long till Christ appears at Adam Ondi Ahman? My answer to that question is contained in my book... www.thebridegroomcometh.net/book. It's a free pdf.

So this is what it's all about, a book? Others on this forum have written books as well. All reasoning flies out the window when a book gets thrown into the mix. Once a book gets out there, everything written in it has to be true and spot on or one's credibility flies out the window, correct. And the conversation always ends up one-sided. I only sense a fashion of ostentation when this occurs. A scriptural based book doesn't always make things true unless written wholly by the guidance of the Holy Ghost. It only peaks the interest of those curious enough to read it, yet any reader may find fault with those claims written therein, right? Then what?
I stand by my assertions of when Christ comes in his glory, no matter how many books are out there saying otherwise. Frankly, I have little interest as to when Christ comes to Adam-ondi-Ahman. We don't know very much about it, so I, for one, will not speculate, theorize or anything else in trying to know exactly what it's all about in an attempt to write about it. It won't change a thing concerning my salvation. But the coming of the Lord in his glory and majesty does. I want to be one of those people that is raised to greet him in the air. Too me, this is my heart's desire.

So you are correct, we will never fully agree, and I'm perfectly fine with that. You may consider me as being out in left field...and I'm fine with that also. We all have our belief system, and our own ideas on what any one scripture means. This is okay, too.

Good luck with your own selected journey. You may be absolutely right, but then again, you may not.

[BeNotDeceived]

While I can second the praise of Br. Skousen with terms such as "celebrated" and "scholar", where exactly does he suppose that it begins in 2020-2021?

... Is it in that thread about what we might expect in the next 25 years? I'm having issues opening the link for some reason.

The passage of days, months, and years are observable, whereas other time units are fractions or multiples of these three.

In said thread I explained that “half an hour” is common language for a time interval of 22.5 to 45 minutes. Less than 22.5 minutes would be spoken of as a quarter hour, and an interval exceeding 45 minutes would likely be described as an hour.

Some scriptures add an “About” qualifier and others state “The space of half an hour” without the qualifier. But 22.5 - 45 minute understanding is based on the language without the qualifier.

Significant digits and scientific notation are terms and modern conventions, that properly applied may eliminate ambiguity, but minus these modern conventions, it is folly to assume halfAnHour == 30.0 minutes.

Interesting too, is there are three observable time intervals based on the Sun or Moon acting upon the Earth amidst a plethora of stars.

[James Paul]

About 20.9 years of bliss.

What do you mean, "bliss"? Can you elaborate?

BLISS is a small town in Idaho.

[DesertWonderer2]

...how long till Christ appears at Adam Ondi Ahman? My answer to that question is contained in my book... www.thebridegroomcometh.net/book. It's a free pdf.
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Can you just please tell us and end the suspense?

[BeNotDeceived]

Earth as Liahona.
click to enlarge

There’s a thread and image showing stuff only made viewable by modern technology, in effect reading it, much like a scroll of times past.

Interesting the ones occurring on March 30th are exactly 19 years apart.

Likely the elliptical orbit of the Earth around the Sun introduces some variation, but about the space of half an hour works well in many cases to describe the adjusted interval, except for 6.5 years from eclipses in 2017 & 2024, but that accommodates two financial quarters needed to establish a period of prosperity, that as in times past is likely to continue for a period of 7yrs.

The three astronomical objects must all interact to cause this cyclic reoccurrence, that also tracks an exact 4 dimensional path that intersects the Earths surface at specific places and at specific times. Only recently have we had the technology to accurately visualize these things, much like unraveling the Earth as a scroll.

[thestock]

My brain literally hurts from all the time I've spent over the years pondering this very thing and doing all the math and looking at all the major events of history and speculating on when/if/how this stuff is to go down.

Ultimately, it brought me into depression. I dont think God intends for people to go through such mental gymnastics to understand his word. He delights in plainness, does He not? Now I just maintain a positive outlook and give everyone the benefit of the doubt that they are truly doing the best they can and if the sky falls, so be it......that is why you live a wholesome life. You deal with what you can control and you have faith that the things you can't control will work out or be for some benefit.....

[righteousrepublic]

My brain literally hurts from all the time I've spent over the years pondering this very thing and doing all the math and looking at all the major events of history and speculating on when/if/how this stuff is to go down.

Ultimately, it brought me into depression. I dont think God intends for people to go through such mental gymnastics to understand his word. He delights in plainness, does He not? Now I just maintain a positive outlook and give everyone the benefit of the doubt that they are truly doing the best they can and if the sky falls, so be it......that is why you live a wholesome life. You deal with what you can control and you have faith that the things you can't control will work out or be for some benefit.....

Aren't we supposed to watch for signs and wonders, instead of trying to fit them in whenever we want them to occur? This is what we have faith for, is it not? We pray and ask God to help us get through each day and to have the Holy Ghost as a companion, helping us make right choices in every aspect of our lives?

I am as curious as the next man, or not, about the upcoming events, not as to when they occur, but being spiritually prepared for them.

In 1981 I purchased a book written by Anthony E Larson, entitled...And The Moon Shall Turn To Blood, The Very Last Days. Guess what, I never read it, but still own it. Since then book after book after book comes out on the same topics. And I would surmise that all the authors think they have the perfect book. There all based on extensive research and views of other people. Apparently, Mr. Larson commingled his works with those of a researcher named Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky.

I guess for those truly enthusiastic about the future might find interesting all these books. But attempting to chronologically list them is way over the top, IMO.

[Michael Sherwin]

When the 7th seal is opened, there is a half hour of silence. I've read many ideas of what it means. Some say it's no more communication from Heaven. I don't think that's correct. Some have said that the work in Heaven stops while it's inhabitants look at our little earth and watch for the advent of Christ. I'm curious what people here think. Any ideas?

It is because it is a solemn occasion. All those prior to the tribulation of those days (7th seal) that are to be sealed by God have been sealed. They are the ones in the book of life that are delivered in Daniel 12:1. The others will die in their wickedness. Here is where the Bible makes a distinction between the godless and the wicked. The godless are not of the many that are resurrected in Daniel 12:2. They have nothing of the kingdom within them. They are the tares that are burnt. Those that as brute beast were made to be destroyed. The wicked do have at least something of the kingdom within them. They can wash their robes in the blood of the lamb and still be saved when their number that have been killed as they were killed is complete.