Antichrist & LDS Short Sightedness

[clarkjk]

The Lord will bring judgment on the LDS Church and Christians first, no doubt.

My understanding is the anti-Christ will be the head of the One World Church/religion and government. All religions will be forced to combine or go under ground during the beast system.

Many Christians who remain, will be martyred. I believe the remnant of the LDS Church will be starting the New Jerusalem with other Christians who survive.

Prophet Nelson is actively encouraging individuals to come closer to Christ, in preparation for the persecution that is coming to all who believe in Christ, no matter the denomination, but of course focused on LDS members, since that is who he talks to.

Because the Church in general does not preach about end times, and leaves the studies to the individual, many will be shocked at what is coming, I believe.

But, like any Christian, leaning into Christ, seeking the gifts of the Spirit, and repenting through out the day, everyday, will allow those who are true followers to survive those days.

I do believe there will be one person as an anti-Christ, but also followers of the false prophet, and the one world government will be anti-Christ.

Here is the dilemma. Either the LDS Church is the kingdom of God on earth as the LDS Church claims or it is not. If it is then the man of sin will at some point rule over the kingdom meaning he will rule over the LDS Church. Another teaching of the LDS Church is that it will one day become the one universal Church. So if one as a member of the LDS Church believes that the man of sin will come to power in any other church then they are not putting together the pieces correctly and falling for the deception. And think of it this way. The LDS Church at only 16 or so million is a little horn compared to the Catholic church or the larger protestant churches. And the Antichrist is a little horn among a one world conglomerate of what, churches?

D&C 10:67 shows who the belongs to the church of the Lamb of God. No one else. Those who repent and come unto Him. That is His church. That is His doctrine. So it isn't a "telestial" organization that has membership, but it is the individual and their own hearts that belong to the church or not. Thankfully I'm not the Judge, but Christ being that He descended below all and knows all about each of us does know who is a part of His church. The organization to which we belong is supposed to be road map to help us along the path, but isn't the Church - the only time it was at the beginning when the Lord was collectively pleased with the church and not individually pleased with its members.

Zion must first come within the people before it becomes manifest outside them as a city. All saints can abide the commandments in the gospel, before the church tells them, it was always there, people could have strived to live as close to higher laws as possible, waiting on men to tell you what you should know in spirit already is lack of wisdom.

Could this be the purpose of the focus of ministering, the savior's way? To create Zion in our hearts?

[discoqueendiva]

The whole antichrist thing feels like a big mystery just waiting to be solved, i read in one book that the antichrist would be a son of perdition and that it would most likely be a member of our church. The book is by duane s.crowther and its called inspired prophetic warnings. And he basically says this false christ cannot be a catholic Pope, or any other religious leader, that it will have to be an apostate Mormon, not some outsider and this is how he would deceive the very elect and how he will have temple access and will appear to have the priesthood. And this power will be from satan. Yet we have other people outside our church believing that the false christ will be a person in government power and enter the Jewish temple to proclaim he is the christ., i believe alot of the government is part of the beast system, and as i read scriptures it seems to me the beast is different from the false christ, like they are two separate things. If the false christ does happen to be one of our own, it seems crazy and i feel like how would that happen. But i will be ready iether way. Lets all be wise like the ten virgins. I thank God for righteous leaders leading us right now. Its hard to think that the church could apostate, because its not supposed to be taken off the earth again, so i dont really understand that. But i thank God for his restoration of the gospel and can't wait for the millennium, i so want christ to come now. But i understand lots more things have to take place etc.

[justme]

The whole antichrist thing feels like a big mystery just waiting to be solved, i read in one book that the antichrist would be a son of perdition and that it would most likely be a member of our church. The book is by duane s.crowther and its called inspired prophetic warnings. And he basically says this false christ cannot be a catholic Pope, or any other religious leader, that it will have to be an apostate Mormon, not some outsider and this is how he would deceive the very elect and how he will have temple access and will appear to have the priesthood. And this power will be from satan. Yet we have other people outside our church believing that the false christ will be a person in government power and enter the Jewish temple to proclaim he is the christ., i believe alot of the government is part of the beast system, and as i read scriptures it seems to me the beast is different from the false christ, like they are two separate things. If the false christ does happen to be one of our own, it seems crazy and i feel like how would that happen. But i will be ready iether way. Lets all be wise like the ten virgins. I thank God for righteous leaders leading us right now. Its hard to think that the church could apostate, because its not supposed to be taken off the earth again, so i dont really understand that. But i thank God for his restoration of the gospel and can't wait for the millennium, i so want christ to come now. But i understand lots more things have to take place etc.

You are right it is a big mystery. But Crowther has never been a mainstream credible source.

[ThePowerofEternity111]

Here is the dilemma. Either the LDS Church is the kingdom of God on earth as the LDS Church claims or it is not. If it is then the man of sin will at some point rule over the kingdom meaning he will rule over the LDS Church. Another teaching of the LDS Church is that it will one day become the one universal Church. So if one as a member of the LDS Church believes that the man of sin will come to power in any other church then they are not putting together the pieces correctly and falling for the deception. And think of it this way. The LDS Church at only 16 or so million is a little horn compared to the Catholic church or the larger protestant churches. And the Antichrist is a little horn among a one world conglomerate of what, churches?

D&C 10:67 shows who the belongs to the church of the Lamb of God. No one else. Those who repent and come unto Him. That is His church. That is His doctrine. So it isn't a "telestial" organization that has membership, but it is the individual and their own hearts that belong to the church or not. Thankfully I'm not the Judge, but Christ being that He descended below all and knows all about each of us does know who is a part of His church. The organization to which we belong is supposed to be road map to help us along the path, but isn't the Church - the only time it was at the beginning when the Lord was collectively pleased with the church and not individually pleased with its members.

Zion must first come within the people before it becomes manifest outside them as a city. All saints can abide the commandments in the gospel, before the church tells them, it was always there, people could have strived to live as close to higher laws as possible, waiting on men to tell you what you should know in spirit already is lack of wisdom.

Could this be the purpose of the focus of ministering, the savior's way? To create Zion in our hearts?

It is better than nothing, but it too late to prevent the curse, the timeline we are on is the ending but it comes harsher than it once could have, It has already been Authored the ending, Babylon shall fall by a sword and Mammon shall be wounded greatly. Zion was not established as it was once possible to be, due to transgression and breaking the everlasting covenant by the saints, thus the mighty and strong one known to always come shall establish it during the days of tribulation, the church as a organisation will be broken up in that time, and people will be scattered and many will perish during those days, those who die holding to faith in a humble, broken heart and contrite spirit in name of the Son will be spared the underworlds.

It was always about the hearts, service to self actions align to those realms, hellish realms are service to self vibration frequency's. To many of mankind has aligned to service to self frequency's the way of life you live under in this world was the system of the beast under Draconian rule, ye by living too selfishly aligned to it kingdom becoming subject to it. The key to the kingdom of Heaven has always been service to others alignment through the spirit of Christ who is the very Eternal Light itself. It required to abide the original instructions in the gospel, not only because told to but because it was in your heart too to begin with. Many souls in many worlds became trapped in underworlds by seeking glory for themselves to become gods, this has been a on going issue for the Light that intelligence's exalt themselves in their own hearts and seek after power and glory, rather than to be servants in humility. The true way to become a god was not to seek after exaltation but to humble oneself as a servant unto the real God as is taught in Mosiah 4, when the people got shown the real truth of their situation.

The truth when revealed to all after the resurrection shall shock them, for even Zion had to be saved as clued in, in your entertainment movies. There is a far larger picture that goes beyond the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints knowledge, beyond anything mankind has ever considered, Joseph Smith knew more but knew if revealed it his own people would murder him. Brigham Young also knew mystery's which many could not handle also but he didn't know what Joseph meant by saying they would rise up and kill him. God mystery's are beyond mankind comprehension and much of it was faith and hope required with charity by even his servants the prophets.

[James Paul]

THIS THREAD IS NOTHING WORTH READING. I am too old to even mess with the bickering of idiots trying to force nonsense as new revelation.