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Prophecy Update End Times News Headlines - 6/26/19

The first thing will be the USS Abraham Lincoln goes down in flames,
so will the tower that bears the name of Trump which is the
fiery “kickoff” event that happens in New York.


Key End Time Puzzle Piece Revealed!
HolySpiritWind - Jeff Byerly

I AM wrote: ↑July 24th, 2019, 12:10 am The first thing will be the USS Abraham Lincoln goes down in flames,
so will the tower that bears the name of Trump which is the
fiery “kickoff” event that happens in New York.


Key End Time Puzzle Piece Revealed!
HolySpiritWind - Jeff Byerly

Anyone can watch the news and feel confidant in "predicting" that war is coming and will not be turned back. He says soon but then he says he does not know what soon is. It would be kinda hard to discredit him if war does not materialize in two years and then if it does materialize in three years it would look like he had received prophecy. More than 99% of all YouTubers are scammers. And it is impossible to reach a single one of them with the truth. The only truth they care about is the truth that gets them the most subscribers. I did get through to one YouTuber one time. We even talked on the phone. He even made a video or two and did teach the truth. But he lost subscribers so the truth was no more presented on his channel. They all fall in line and teach the great deception as truth.

ya, I guess that's pretty much what ALL these people care about isn't it -
getting "the most subscribers"
GET REAL !
thanks, but I DON'T BELIEVE YOU AT ALL !
sure there's gonna be some like that ,
especially like some pastors or fanatics I've heard;
but ANYONE - that speaks and testifies that salvation
comes only through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ;
and especially when they, as Jesus would, call people
to repent; I have an open ear., and so will EVERYONE
that knows and hears the spirit.
Everything that these people are saying, may or may not
come to pass, and many times, the order or timing that
things happen might be off, but that doesn't bother me,
because I know that many of the things some of these people say
WILL come to pass.

you know, I'm really getting sick of hearing doubting Thomas'.
You're just one of the many many skeptics here
that doesn't believe that the Lord can speak through His servants.
(AND I DON'T MEAN THE PROPHET OF THE CHURCH)
The Lord is pouring out His spirit right now;
but YOU and so many others wouldn't know that,
because you don't have the spirit with you
and therefore wouldn't know the Lord's voice
even if you heard it.
ANYONE RIGHT NOW that loves and knows the Lord,
and their only desire is to serve Him,
He can use them, and speak through them, if He so desires.

17 And it shall come to pass in the last days,
saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh:
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions,
and your old men shall dream dreams:

18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens
I will pour out in those days of my Spirit;
and they shall prophesy:

The Acts of the Apostles
Chapter 2

Maybe we should look seriously at prophecies in scriptures and by latter-day prophets that have not yet happened or are happening by not noticed by most LDSs. I'm looking especially at these because I expect they will effect me and my progeny.

Revelation 13:7 The "beast" makes war with the saints and overcomes them; and gains power over all "kindreds, and tongues, and nations"

Ether 8:24 A secret combination shall be among us

Statements by at least eight latter-day prophets about near destruction of the US Constitution

3 Nephi 16, 20 & 21 (Remnant of Jacob to "inherit" America)

"Secret combinations lusting for power, gain, and glory are flourishing. A secret combination that seeks to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries is increasing its evil influence and control over America and the entire world. (See Ether 8:18–25.)"

"As the forces of evil increase under Lucifer’s leadership and as the forces of good increase under the leadership of Jesus Christ, there will be growing battles between the two until the final confrontation. As the issues become clearer and more obvious, all mankind will eventually be required to align themselves either for the kingdom of God or for the kingdom of the devil. As these conflicts rage, either secretly or openly, the righteous will be tested. God’s wrath will soon shake the nations of the earth and will be poured out on the wicked without measure. (See JS—H 1:45; D&C 1:9.) But God will provide strength for the righteous and the means of escape; and eventually and finally truth will triumph. (See 1 Ne. 22:15–23.)"

"Not many years hence the earth will be cleansed."

"Atomic holocausts that surely shall be."

I AM wrote: ↑July 24th, 2019, 8:50 am ya, I guess that's pretty much what ALL these people care about isn't it -
getting "the most subscribers"
GET REAL !
thanks, but I DON'T BELIEVE YOU AT ALL !
sure there's gonna be some like that ,
especially like some pastors or fanatics I've heard;
but ANYONE - that speaks and testifies that salvation
comes only through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ;
and especially when they, as Jesus would, call people
to repent; I have an open ear., and so will EVERYONE
that knows and hears the spirit.
Everything that these people are saying, may or may not
come to pass, and many times, the order or timing that
things happen might be off, but that doesn't bother me,
because I know that many of the things some of these people say
WILL come to pass.

you know, I'm really getting sick of hearing doubting Thomas'.
You're just one of the many many skeptics here
that doesn't believe that the Lord can speak through His servants.
(AND I DON'T MEAN THE PROPHET OF THE CHURCH)
The Lord is pouring out His spirit right now;
but YOU and so many others wouldn't know that,
because you don't have the spirit with you
and therefore wouldn't know the Lord's voice
even if you heard it.
ANYONE RIGHT NOW that loves and knows the Lord,
and their only desire is to serve Him,
He can use them, and speak through them, if He so desires.

17 And it shall come to pass in the last days,
saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh:
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions,
and your old men shall dream dreams:

18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens
I will pour out in those days of my Spirit;
and they shall prophesy:

The Acts of the Apostles
Chapter 2

That is why three ladies all said that the Lord told them the rapture would be on the 17th of July. And they got some support from other channels. One channel said he got a word that two ladies would be given the rapture date. They were not hearing from the Lord. One of the three ladies has repented and admitted that it could not have been from the Lord. Now the other two are shunning her and they are making excuses. Steve Fletcher has claimed direct revelation from the Lord more times than I can keep track of. And he has been wrong every single time but he still claims to be hearing from the Lord. You say God is pouring out his Spirit. I say that has not yet started. When he pours out his Spirit a person 100 years old will be as though they are young. It will be far more than dreams and visions. Get mad all you want. It won't make what you say true.

Michael Sherwin wrote: ↑July 24th, 2019, 10:54 am

I AM wrote: ↑July 24th, 2019, 8:50 am ya, I guess that's pretty much what ALL these people care about isn't it -
getting "the most subscribers"
GET REAL !
thanks, but I DON'T BELIEVE YOU AT ALL !
sure there's gonna be some like that ,
especially like some pastors or fanatics I've heard;
but ANYONE - that speaks and testifies that salvation
comes only through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ;
and especially when they, as Jesus would, call people
to repent; I have an open ear., and so will EVERYONE
that knows and hears the spirit.
Everything that these people are saying, may or may not
come to pass, and many times, the order or timing that
things happen might be off, but that doesn't bother me,
because I know that many of the things some of these people say
WILL come to pass.

you know, I'm really getting sick of hearing doubting Thomas'.
You're just one of the many many skeptics here
that doesn't believe that the Lord can speak through His servants.
(AND I DON'T MEAN THE PROPHET OF THE CHURCH)
The Lord is pouring out His spirit right now;
but YOU and so many others wouldn't know that,
because you don't have the spirit with you
and therefore wouldn't know the Lord's voice
even if you heard it.
ANYONE RIGHT NOW that loves and knows the Lord,
and their only desire is to serve Him,
He can use them, and speak through them, if He so desires.

17 And it shall come to pass in the last days,
saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh:
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions,
and your old men shall dream dreams:

18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens
I will pour out in those days of my Spirit;
and they shall prophesy:

The Acts of the Apostles
Chapter 2

That is why three ladies all said that the Lord told them the rapture would be on the 17th of July. And they got some support from other channels. One channel said he got a word that two ladies would be given the rapture date. They were not hearing from the Lord. One of the three ladies has repented and admitted that it could not have been from the Lord. Now the other two are shunning her and they are making excuses. Steve Fletcher has claimed direct revelation from the Lord more times than I can keep track of. And he has been wrong every single time but he still claims to be hearing from the Lord. You say God is pouring out his Spirit. I say that has not yet started. When he pours out his Spirit a person 100 years old will be as though they are young. It will be far more than dreams and visions. Get mad all you want. It won't make what you say true.

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mad ? and why should I be mad ?
I just believe what I believe,
you can believe what you want.
and I know and have followed all about those that
believed in the July 17 rapture.
And so what ?
I never believed in it.
and I told them so.

Anyway, it's a waste of time for me to say any more
because I've already said what I've said, and believe what I believe.
You can continue to be skeptical about everyone and everything
if you want, but for me, I know that the Lord speaks through His servants;
and He has many that serve Him, and know His voice.

lundbaek wrote: ↑July 24th, 2019, 10:31 am Maybe we should look seriously at prophecies in scriptures and by latter-day prophets that have not yet happened or are happening by not noticed by most LDSs. I'm looking especially at these because I expect they will effect me and my progeny.

Revelation 13:7 The "beast" makes war with the saints and overcomes them; and gains power over all "kindreds, and tongues, and nations"

Ether 8:24 A secret combination shall be among us

Statements by at least eight latter-day prophets about near destruction of the US Constitution

3 Nephi 16, 20 & 21 (Remnant of Jacob to "inherit" America)

"Secret combinations lusting for power, gain, and glory are flourishing. A secret combination that seeks to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries is increasing its evil influence and control over America and the entire world. (See Ether 8:18–25.)"

"As the forces of evil increase under Lucifer’s leadership and as the forces of good increase under the leadership of Jesus Christ, there will be growing battles between the two until the final confrontation. As the issues become clearer and more obvious, all mankind will eventually be required to align themselves either for the kingdom of God or for the kingdom of the devil. As these conflicts rage, either secretly or openly, the righteous will be tested. God’s wrath will soon shake the nations of the earth and will be poured out on the wicked without measure. (See JS—H 1:45; D&C 1:9.) But God will provide strength for the righteous and the means of escape; and eventually and finally truth will triumph. (See 1 Ne. 22:15–23.)"

"Not many years hence the earth will be cleansed."

"Atomic holocausts that surely shall be."

I'm going to say that pretty much everything you've listed here has already taken place or is in process presently. Like the fellow in the video said, America is on the verge of destruction. In an unpublished revelation Joseph Smith was told:

Verily, I say unto you, that the day of vexation and vengeance is nigh at the doors of this nation, when wicked, ungodly and daring men will rise up in wrath and might, and go forth in anger, like as the dust is driven by a terrible wind; and they will be the means of the destruction of the government and cause the death and misery of many souls; but the faithful among my people shall be preserved in holy places during all these tribulations. (Letter from W.W. Phelps to Brigham Young, dated August 12, 1861, Joseph Smith Collection, Church Historians Office.)

I don't think it's difficult to see that what I'ver referred to in the past as the "Zombie Apocalypse" or the insanity of the globalist left is unfolding in this nation presently. I think that the above revelation, that was given to Joseph Smith in 1831 is a pretty precise picture of where we are and where we shall find ourselves in the near future.

If you're not listening to President Nelson and reading between the lines, you might be like the people the man in the video was talking about. Many of those among us in the church are prospering greatly in the present situation and I get the feeling that they are putting their head in the sand and hoping the gravy train never stops. From my perspective, when President Nelson said "Wait till next year and then the next year" he was not speaking idle words. He also came right out in conference and said that those who are not doing as they know they should, should repent. Said he, "Do it now, time is running out."

friendsofthe wrote: ↑July 24th, 2019, 11:16 pm If you're not listening to President Nelson and reading between the lines, you might be like the people the man in the video was talking about. Many of those among us in the church are prospering greatly in the present situation and I get the feeling that they are putting their head in the sand and hoping the gravy train never stops. From my perspective, when President Nelson said "Wait till next year and then the next year" he was not speaking idle words. He also came right out in conference and said that those who are not doing as they know they should, should repent. Said he, "Do it now, time is running out."

President Nelson was speaking in years at conference, not decades, not in the foreseeable future, years. We can all see world events unfolding at astronomical speeds recently. It's not going to get slower, it's going to get even faster.

Satan knows his time is running out before he will lose all power on earth for a 1000 years. He's using every trick, every new type of technology, any way to exert his influence on as many people as he can.

I AM wrote: ↑July 24th, 2019, 8:50 am you know, I'm really getting sick of hearing doubting Thomas'.
You're just one of the many many skeptics here
that doesn't believe that the Lord can speak through His servants.
(AND I DON'T MEAN THE PROPHET OF THE CHURCH)
The Lord is pouring out His spirit right now;
but YOU and so many others wouldn't know that,
because you don't have the spirit with you
and therefore wouldn't know the Lord's voice
even if you heard it.

Wait. Are you saying the Lord is “speaking through His servants” and “pouring out His spirit right now” via YouTube? Ok. That’s a first.

I AM wrote: ↑July 24th, 2019, 8:50 am
He can use them, and speak through them, if He so desires.

17 And it shall come to pass in the last days,
saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh:
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions,
and your old men shall dream dreams:

18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens
I will pour out in those days of my Spirit;
and they shall prophesy:

The Acts of the Apostles
Chapter 2

I am totally in the same boat as you. I've spoken with many members whom have said they had visions including myself. I won't go into detail what I've seen, but needless to say They are re-occurring with just a little more detail every time. If these dreams lead us to testify of Christ by the holy spirit and power of the priesthood, then I will lend my ear. I've gotten better at discerning evil-falsehoods posed as "members" vs true disciples receiving visions.

Even in the online setting, I've been surprised at the level of discernment that has taken place in just the short period of time I've been involved in correcting falsehoods in the social media setting.

RocknRoll wrote: ↑July 25th, 2019, 3:04 pm

I AM wrote: ↑July 24th, 2019, 8:50 am you know, I'm really getting sick of hearing doubting Thomas'.
You're just one of the many many skeptics here
that doesn't believe that the Lord can speak through His servants.
(AND I DON'T MEAN THE PROPHET OF THE CHURCH)
The Lord is pouring out His spirit right now;
but YOU and so many others wouldn't know that,
because you don't have the spirit with you
and therefore wouldn't know the Lord's voice
even if you heard it.

Wait. Are you saying the Lord is “speaking through His servants” and “pouring out His spirit right now” via YouTube? Ok. That’s a first.

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nothing usually surprises me these days
but your " via YouTube? "
caught me off guard.

It doesn't matter through what means - via "youtube",
just on the internet somewhere, right here in this forum,
even in YOUR OWN WARD; ANYWHERE
that you're hearing people speak.
and even through YOU !
YES the Lord can “pouring out His spirit right now”
and speak through YOU !

and "believe it or not"
the church doesn't have the corner on receiving revelation.

I AM wrote: ↑July 25th, 2019, 7:12 pm and "believe it or not"
the church doesn't have the corner on receiving revelation.

Absolutely. God lives all his children equally and will use whatever means he can to reach all of them, both in and out of the church. Many people in and out of the church are receiving end times related revelations.

I cannot say that any of these YouTubers speak on behalf of God. They have been saying things about the end for years and every single one of them have been wrong. Does not appear to be of the Spirit. There is one, however, who does spread falsehoods ... and that is Satan.

I will choose to follow the Lord’s mouthpiece on earth, who is President Nelson. My heart goes out to you who speak ill of the Prophet. Your delusional understanding of the scriptures have blinded you from the truth and caused you to be past feeling such that you cannot feel the Spirit any longer.

you wouldn't know if these people speak on behalf of God
or not because YOU don't appear to have the spirit with you
that would confirm that they do, and have been blinded
by church leaders, who actually have also been -
"they have been saying things about the end for years"
example "food storage", for the last 50 years, and yet, nothing has happened.
My heart really goes out to YOU and those who speak ill about being
led and taught by the spirit "and are delusional and have been blinded
from the truth and have caused you to be past feeling such that you cannot feel the Spirit any longer"
because you put your trust in men, and their precepts,
and in the arm of the flesh and not in God.

and btw - those that are led by Satan don't ask people to repent and to come
Jesus Christ, and preach that He is the only one that can save you.
Some of these servants of God receive more revelation in 1 minute
than these so-called prophets have received in a 100 years.
So YOU can follow your mouthpiece all you want,
but I will follow the Lord and try to hear His still small voice,
and listen to those that His spirit speaks through.
"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth"

I AM wrote: ↑July 26th, 2019, 12:12 am you wouldn't know if these people speak on behalf of God
or not because YOU don't appear to have the spirit with you
that would confirm that they do, and have been blinded
by church leaders, who actually have also been -
"they have been saying things about the end for years"
example "food storage", for the last 50 years, and yet, nothing has happened.
My heart really goes out to YOU and those who speak ill about being
led and taught by the spirit "and are delusional and have been blinded
from the truth and have caused you to be past feeling such that you cannot feel the Spirit any longer"
because you put your trust in men, and their precepts,
and in the arm of the flesh and not in God.

and btw - those that are led by Satan don't ask people to repent and to come
Jesus Christ, and preach that He is the only one that can save you.
Some of these servants of God receive more revelation in 1 minute
than these so-called prophets have received in a 100 years.
So YOU can follow your mouthpiece all you want,
but I will follow the Lord and try to hear His still small voice,
and listen to those that His spirit speaks through.
"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth"

I think we need to differentiate revelation to lead the body of the church vs. personal revelation of events. As far as I’m aware, the only requisite for obtaining personal revelation is faith and God’s will. Being a member of the church or having the priesthood are not requirements.

That said, I am a firm believer on stewardship and the inability to get revelation for people outside of your appropriate sphere. That does not mean one should only warn or call repentance to his family...it means that giving specific, individualized instructions need to be kept within appropriate bounds.

There is need of a head and mouthpiece to direct and govern the body. For in primary we learned:

“Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.”

I must disagree on one point...I have heard many from the great and spacious building cry repentance and come unto Christ. If your doctrine and intent behind your admonishment are not pure, then it is not of Christ. If you follow a voice claiming to be the way, then find yourself in the mist of darkness, obviously you were deceived:

“Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity”

I’m indifferent on the YouTube videos. I feel most personal revelation/visions should be held sacred and shared only under the direction of the spirit, but I also understand the desire to share it with the world. I feel if people make these videos with the intent to gather views and monetize it, then they become problematic to defend. That said, I have gleaned some useful nuggets from people not of our faith on YouTube.

I AM wrote: ↑July 26th, 2019, 12:12 am and btw - those that are led by Satan don't ask people to repent and to come
Jesus Christ, and preach that He is the only one that can save you.
Some of these servants of God receive more revelation in 1 minute
than these so-called prophets have received in a 100 years.

Are you serious!? Ever heard of Kenneth Copeland, Jim Baker, or Jimmy Swaggart?

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