Please Tell Me- Source of Northern Utah Bomb
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Please Tell Me- Source of Northern Utah Bomb
I’m hoping someone has the actual source of the northern Utah bomb. I know that this original prophecy was given at Utah State University way back when. It may of been known as a college then.
I think the speech was given in commencement of the institute program. It was given by either a prophet or an apostle. Please post this if you have it. Thank you!!
I think the speech was given in commencement of the institute program. It was given by either a prophet or an apostle. Please post this if you have it. Thank you!!
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Following since I have absolutely no idea what you are referring to though could be interesting.Book of Ruth wrote: ↑June 11th, 2019, 10:08 am I’m hoping someone has the actual source of the northern Utah bomb. I know that this original prophecy was given at Utah State University way back when. It may of been known as a college then.
I think the speech was given in commencement of the institute program. It was given by either a prophet or an apostle. Please post this if you have it. Thank you!!
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Re: Please Tell Me- Source of Northern Utah Bomb
I have some information on this, when I get home tonight from work I’ll post it.
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Not the happiest of subjects, but here goes. First, here is the John Taylor Vision, with interesting commentary by a non member of the Church.
I am NOT a member of the LDS (Mormon) Church myself. I have wondered AND prayed for the past few days what I should put in the August 1989 flyer. Last night in the shower some ideas from the past came to my mind. Years ago I came across a "Prophecy" By a Mormon pioneer. Following is a "vision" from an early Mormon about Nuclear War. I wrote a "letter to the Editor" which was published August 13, 1987. (Now 2015 = 28 years ago.) In our "Iron County Newspaper."
"Editor Review: What do I say and do, to make people believe?
LIFE is worth living after a Nuclear War. People feel helpless to stop it, THEN why not prepare for it? President John Taylor, the third LDS Church president, (right after Brigham Young died) TELLS us of an experience he had 110 years ago on December 16, 1877
(Now in 2015 it has been almost 138 years ago. WHO THEN Could have ever known about Nuclear War and fallout? 68 YEARS BEFORE THE A-BOMB was invented, ONLY a man of vision from God.)
John Taylor, HE SAYS: "I went to bed at my usual hour, half past nine o'clock.
I had been reading the revelations in the French Language. My mind was calm, more so than usual...I composed myself for sleep but could not sleep. I felt a strong stupor come over me...The first thing I recognized was that I was the Tabernacle at Ogden (Utah)...I arose to speak... I was immediately in Salt Lake City wandering about the streets in ALL parts of the City, AND on the door of "EVERY" house I found a badge of Mourning...It seemed strange to me that I saw NO person to be in their houses with their sick AND dead... the city looked still and quiet... I THEN LOOKED in ALL directions...east, west, north, and south AND I found the same mourning IN EVERY PLACE throughout the land. (The whole USA.)
The next thing I knew I was just this side of Omaha, (Nebraska.) It SEEMED as though I was above the Earth, looking down on it (he has been DEAD over 110 years now, so he was seeing the future from the spirit world) AS I passed along my way EAST. I saw the roads full of people, principally women, with just what they could carry in bundles on their backs, TRAVELING TO THE MOUNTAINS on foot...It was remarkable to me THAT there were so few men among them. (The men were killed off.) The RAILS looked rusty and the (rail) road abandoned. I continued Eastward through Omaha and Counsel Bluffs WHICH WERE full of disease AND WOMEN EVERYWHERE. CLICK HERE to see Isaiah's prophecy.
The next thing I saw was Washington AND I found the city a desolation. THE WHITE HOUSE EMPTY, the halls of Congress the same, EVERYTHING IN RUINS...I was next in Baltimore (Maryland) at the HOTELS I saw the dead PILED UP so as to fill the square...I saw NO MEN Except they were dead.
EVERYWHERE I went I beheld the same all over the city AND IT was horrible beyond description to look at. I thought this must be the end, but no, I was seemingly in Philadelphia and there as in Baltimore EVERYTHING was still. NO LIVING SOUL was seen to greet me...in fact EVERYWHERE I WENT the purification of the dead bodies caused such a stench that it was impossible for any creature to exist alive...I next found myself in Broadway, New York. In Broadway I saw the bodies of beautiful women lying stone dead, AND others in a dying condition on the sidewalk.
I saw MEN CRAWL OUT OF THE CELLAR (below ground) AND rob the dead ...and before they could return to their coverts IN THE CELLARS (below the fallout) they themselves would rollover a time or two (puking) and die in agony...I saw mothers kill their own children AND EAT raw flesh AND then in a few minutes die themselves.
WHEREVER I WENT I SAW THE SAME scenes of horror AND desolation, rapine, AND death.
I supposed this was the end, BUT I was given to understand that the SAME HORROR WAS being enacted ALL OVER the country, north, south, east west, THAT FEW were left alive, STILL THERE WERE SOME.
I SAW the whole states of Missouri AND Illinois AND part of Iowa were a complete wilderness WITH NO LIVING HUMAN BEING IN THEM. Instantly I found I was IN THE TABERNACLE IN OGDEN (Utah)...AT this time I seemed to stagger back...I ROLLED OVER IN MY BED and heard the city clock strike twelve o'clock. ( 12 Midnight. SO this "vision" lasted about two hours for him.) Remember this is what HE saw 138 years ago. 68 years before the Atom bomb was invented. See my fallout Map of Missouri, Illinois, and Iowa. Read the Russian Missiles Ready link. Targets to get hit in Missouri as was foretold 138 years ago in the dream. God knew back then what would make Missouri a complete wilderness. http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/u ... target-map
Column 1. and part of 2. August 1989 sheet "O" WHY won't people listen to a Prophet of God? WHY won't they prepare to live instead of killing the Children? BECAUSE that is exactly what they are doing, IF THEY DO NOT PREPARE.https://www.parowanprophet.com/A_Trojan ... lumn_1.htm
Now here is the Vision with no commentary if you wish.http://visionsandtribulation.blogspot.c ... -1877.html
Now, about Northern Utah. The Vision of Sarah Menet (1979)
The next thing that I felt more than I saw was that shortly after this there was no commerce, no shopping, buying, and was impressed that there was no economy. The economy had almost failed completely and no one had any money.
The next thing I saw was people being sick and dying. I saw this particularly in four cities: New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Salt Lake. The disease started by having white blisters, some the size of dimes appear on their hands, arms and face. This quickly developed into white puffy sores and blisters. People would stumble about and fall and then many died within a short time, maybe 24 hours. I also saw other people with blood coming from their nose, mouth, eyes and ears. It started like a flu virus and it spread very quickly, faster than the other white blister disease. The people who had this disease died even faster. This was more wide spread across the entire United States. There were hundreds of thousands of people stricken with these two diseases.
I knew that the diseases, and there were several different kinds, but at first primarily these two, came from small containers that had been brought into the United States. These containers were like quart jars and I was impressed that the people carrying them would just drop them on the ground in large crowds of people and the people would become infected without realizing it....As I was looking at the cities of light, I then saw missiles coming and hitting some cities and mushroom clouds started happening all over the United States. Some were from missiles that I knew came from Russia and others were not from missiles, but were from bombs that were already in the United States. They were hidden in trucks and in cars and were exploded.
I specifically saw Los Angeles, Las Vegas and New York hit with bombs. New York was hit with a missile, but I think that Los Angeles was hit by a truck bomb or actually several, because I didn't see any missile. I also saw north of Salt Lake City have a mushroom cloud, a small one, but no missile(possible suit case nuke).
In the darkness I also saw little fireballs. I don't know if this happened just before or during the mushroom clouds, but there were millions falling everywhere. They were very hot, of different sizes with most about the size of golf balls. As they fell from the sky they left a streak of flame and smoke behind them. Whatever they touched they started on fire: people, buildings, trees, grass, it didn't matter. I didn't ask what they were or where they came from, because by this time I was getting sick of the whole scene and so I just observed and didn't ask many questions.
When she saw "small burning balls" dropped from the sky, that would catch everything they touched on fire, she wasn't sure what kind of weapon she had seen, later Alan South came across an eye witness account of a survivor of one of the two nukes that ended W.W. Two in Japan( account was from Hiroshima). The eye witness report was the same as that Sarah's description of what she saw, a nuke. "Shortly after the nuclear blast, it rained these little fireballs.What happens is that the the nuclear blast melts everything and lifts it into the sky. This material then congeals together into these little balls of melted steel, dirt, and other materials which then fall from the sky, burning everything they touch".
Dreams and Visions of the Last Days p.95
*Nuclear bomb in No. Utah (HAFB)
Count this vision busted at your own risk.
The Vision of Charles D Evans .
Charles D. Evans was Patriarch to the Church in Springville, Utah and was a school teacher by profession.
In 1893 his vision was published in Volume 15 of the Contributor Magazine- later known as The Improvement Era.http://visionsandtribulation.blogspot.c ... r%20Attack
The Vision of Patriarch Iohani Wolfgramm (1980) "There will be a nuclear bomb or bombs go off in Northern Utah that will have an effect as far south as the Salt Lake Valley".http://visionsandtribulation.blogspot.c ... ohani.html
There are others who make the same claim about Northern Utah, but the above is a good sample.
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1. (Bruce R. McConkie, Conferene Report April 1979, pp 132-133.)
"It may be for instance, that nothing except the power of faith and the authority of the priesthood can save individuals and congregations from the atomic holocaust that surely will be. And so we raise the warning voice and say; Take heed; prepare, watch and be ready. There is no security in any course except the course of obedience, conformity, and righteousness."
2. (Elder Harold B. Lee "President J. Reuben Clark , Jr--An Appreciation on his 90th birthday," Improvement Era Sept. 1961, p.632-633)
"We heard him (President Clark) reply in answer to a question as to why he had put his life savings into his presently owned Grantsville Ranch; 'This is all I have to leave my family when I die, and if they are not to lazy to work it, they will not starve. I have told them that when the first atomic bomb is dropped here in America, that they are to go out there on the ranch and to stay until it is over.' This last seemed not only to be wise counsel, but, also a prophecy."
3. (Ezra Taft Benson General Conference April 1961.)
More Bruce R. from that same Conference Talk. "The great destructive force which was to be turned loose on the earth on which the Prophets for centuries have been calling 'The Abomination of Desolation' is vividly described by those who saw it in vision. Ours is the first generation to realize how literally these prophecies can be fulfilled now that God, through science, has unlocked the secret to thermonuclear reaction."
We do not know when the calamities and troubles of the last days will fall upon any of us as individuals or upon bodies of the Saints. The Lord deliberately withholds from us the day and hour of his coming and of the tribulations which shall precede it—all as part of the testing and probationary experiences of mortality. He simply tells us to watch and be ready.
We do not say that all of the Saints will be spared and saved from the coming day of desolation. But we do say there is no promise of safety and no promise of security except for those who love the Lord and who are seeking to do all that he commands.https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... s?lang=eng
I am NOT a member of the LDS (Mormon) Church myself. I have wondered AND prayed for the past few days what I should put in the August 1989 flyer. Last night in the shower some ideas from the past came to my mind. Years ago I came across a "Prophecy" By a Mormon pioneer. Following is a "vision" from an early Mormon about Nuclear War. I wrote a "letter to the Editor" which was published August 13, 1987. (Now 2015 = 28 years ago.) In our "Iron County Newspaper."
"Editor Review: What do I say and do, to make people believe?
LIFE is worth living after a Nuclear War. People feel helpless to stop it, THEN why not prepare for it? President John Taylor, the third LDS Church president, (right after Brigham Young died) TELLS us of an experience he had 110 years ago on December 16, 1877
(Now in 2015 it has been almost 138 years ago. WHO THEN Could have ever known about Nuclear War and fallout? 68 YEARS BEFORE THE A-BOMB was invented, ONLY a man of vision from God.)
John Taylor, HE SAYS: "I went to bed at my usual hour, half past nine o'clock.
I had been reading the revelations in the French Language. My mind was calm, more so than usual...I composed myself for sleep but could not sleep. I felt a strong stupor come over me...The first thing I recognized was that I was the Tabernacle at Ogden (Utah)...I arose to speak... I was immediately in Salt Lake City wandering about the streets in ALL parts of the City, AND on the door of "EVERY" house I found a badge of Mourning...It seemed strange to me that I saw NO person to be in their houses with their sick AND dead... the city looked still and quiet... I THEN LOOKED in ALL directions...east, west, north, and south AND I found the same mourning IN EVERY PLACE throughout the land. (The whole USA.)
The next thing I knew I was just this side of Omaha, (Nebraska.) It SEEMED as though I was above the Earth, looking down on it (he has been DEAD over 110 years now, so he was seeing the future from the spirit world) AS I passed along my way EAST. I saw the roads full of people, principally women, with just what they could carry in bundles on their backs, TRAVELING TO THE MOUNTAINS on foot...It was remarkable to me THAT there were so few men among them. (The men were killed off.) The RAILS looked rusty and the (rail) road abandoned. I continued Eastward through Omaha and Counsel Bluffs WHICH WERE full of disease AND WOMEN EVERYWHERE. CLICK HERE to see Isaiah's prophecy.
The next thing I saw was Washington AND I found the city a desolation. THE WHITE HOUSE EMPTY, the halls of Congress the same, EVERYTHING IN RUINS...I was next in Baltimore (Maryland) at the HOTELS I saw the dead PILED UP so as to fill the square...I saw NO MEN Except they were dead.
EVERYWHERE I went I beheld the same all over the city AND IT was horrible beyond description to look at. I thought this must be the end, but no, I was seemingly in Philadelphia and there as in Baltimore EVERYTHING was still. NO LIVING SOUL was seen to greet me...in fact EVERYWHERE I WENT the purification of the dead bodies caused such a stench that it was impossible for any creature to exist alive...I next found myself in Broadway, New York. In Broadway I saw the bodies of beautiful women lying stone dead, AND others in a dying condition on the sidewalk.
I saw MEN CRAWL OUT OF THE CELLAR (below ground) AND rob the dead ...and before they could return to their coverts IN THE CELLARS (below the fallout) they themselves would rollover a time or two (puking) and die in agony...I saw mothers kill their own children AND EAT raw flesh AND then in a few minutes die themselves.
WHEREVER I WENT I SAW THE SAME scenes of horror AND desolation, rapine, AND death.
I supposed this was the end, BUT I was given to understand that the SAME HORROR WAS being enacted ALL OVER the country, north, south, east west, THAT FEW were left alive, STILL THERE WERE SOME.
I SAW the whole states of Missouri AND Illinois AND part of Iowa were a complete wilderness WITH NO LIVING HUMAN BEING IN THEM. Instantly I found I was IN THE TABERNACLE IN OGDEN (Utah)...AT this time I seemed to stagger back...I ROLLED OVER IN MY BED and heard the city clock strike twelve o'clock. ( 12 Midnight. SO this "vision" lasted about two hours for him.) Remember this is what HE saw 138 years ago. 68 years before the Atom bomb was invented. See my fallout Map of Missouri, Illinois, and Iowa. Read the Russian Missiles Ready link. Targets to get hit in Missouri as was foretold 138 years ago in the dream. God knew back then what would make Missouri a complete wilderness. http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/u ... target-map
Column 1. and part of 2. August 1989 sheet "O" WHY won't people listen to a Prophet of God? WHY won't they prepare to live instead of killing the Children? BECAUSE that is exactly what they are doing, IF THEY DO NOT PREPARE.https://www.parowanprophet.com/A_Trojan ... lumn_1.htm
Now here is the Vision with no commentary if you wish.http://visionsandtribulation.blogspot.c ... -1877.html
Now, about Northern Utah. The Vision of Sarah Menet (1979)
The next thing that I felt more than I saw was that shortly after this there was no commerce, no shopping, buying, and was impressed that there was no economy. The economy had almost failed completely and no one had any money.
The next thing I saw was people being sick and dying. I saw this particularly in four cities: New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Salt Lake. The disease started by having white blisters, some the size of dimes appear on their hands, arms and face. This quickly developed into white puffy sores and blisters. People would stumble about and fall and then many died within a short time, maybe 24 hours. I also saw other people with blood coming from their nose, mouth, eyes and ears. It started like a flu virus and it spread very quickly, faster than the other white blister disease. The people who had this disease died even faster. This was more wide spread across the entire United States. There were hundreds of thousands of people stricken with these two diseases.
I knew that the diseases, and there were several different kinds, but at first primarily these two, came from small containers that had been brought into the United States. These containers were like quart jars and I was impressed that the people carrying them would just drop them on the ground in large crowds of people and the people would become infected without realizing it....As I was looking at the cities of light, I then saw missiles coming and hitting some cities and mushroom clouds started happening all over the United States. Some were from missiles that I knew came from Russia and others were not from missiles, but were from bombs that were already in the United States. They were hidden in trucks and in cars and were exploded.
I specifically saw Los Angeles, Las Vegas and New York hit with bombs. New York was hit with a missile, but I think that Los Angeles was hit by a truck bomb or actually several, because I didn't see any missile. I also saw north of Salt Lake City have a mushroom cloud, a small one, but no missile(possible suit case nuke).
In the darkness I also saw little fireballs. I don't know if this happened just before or during the mushroom clouds, but there were millions falling everywhere. They were very hot, of different sizes with most about the size of golf balls. As they fell from the sky they left a streak of flame and smoke behind them. Whatever they touched they started on fire: people, buildings, trees, grass, it didn't matter. I didn't ask what they were or where they came from, because by this time I was getting sick of the whole scene and so I just observed and didn't ask many questions.
When she saw "small burning balls" dropped from the sky, that would catch everything they touched on fire, she wasn't sure what kind of weapon she had seen, later Alan South came across an eye witness account of a survivor of one of the two nukes that ended W.W. Two in Japan( account was from Hiroshima). The eye witness report was the same as that Sarah's description of what she saw, a nuke. "Shortly after the nuclear blast, it rained these little fireballs.What happens is that the the nuclear blast melts everything and lifts it into the sky. This material then congeals together into these little balls of melted steel, dirt, and other materials which then fall from the sky, burning everything they touch".
Dreams and Visions of the Last Days p.95
*Nuclear bomb in No. Utah (HAFB)
Count this vision busted at your own risk.
The Vision of Charles D Evans .
Charles D. Evans was Patriarch to the Church in Springville, Utah and was a school teacher by profession.
In 1893 his vision was published in Volume 15 of the Contributor Magazine- later known as The Improvement Era.http://visionsandtribulation.blogspot.c ... r%20Attack
The Vision of Patriarch Iohani Wolfgramm (1980) "There will be a nuclear bomb or bombs go off in Northern Utah that will have an effect as far south as the Salt Lake Valley".http://visionsandtribulation.blogspot.c ... ohani.html
There are others who make the same claim about Northern Utah, but the above is a good sample.
On the air today, Joel Skousen repeats warning, move away from Hill A.F.B.
Fri Jan 04, 2019viewtopic.php?f=20&t=50257&p=902673&hil ... ke#p902673
1. (Bruce R. McConkie, Conferene Report April 1979, pp 132-133.)
"It may be for instance, that nothing except the power of faith and the authority of the priesthood can save individuals and congregations from the atomic holocaust that surely will be. And so we raise the warning voice and say; Take heed; prepare, watch and be ready. There is no security in any course except the course of obedience, conformity, and righteousness."
2. (Elder Harold B. Lee "President J. Reuben Clark , Jr--An Appreciation on his 90th birthday," Improvement Era Sept. 1961, p.632-633)
"We heard him (President Clark) reply in answer to a question as to why he had put his life savings into his presently owned Grantsville Ranch; 'This is all I have to leave my family when I die, and if they are not to lazy to work it, they will not starve. I have told them that when the first atomic bomb is dropped here in America, that they are to go out there on the ranch and to stay until it is over.' This last seemed not only to be wise counsel, but, also a prophecy."
3. (Ezra Taft Benson General Conference April 1961.)
More Bruce R. from that same Conference Talk. "The great destructive force which was to be turned loose on the earth on which the Prophets for centuries have been calling 'The Abomination of Desolation' is vividly described by those who saw it in vision. Ours is the first generation to realize how literally these prophecies can be fulfilled now that God, through science, has unlocked the secret to thermonuclear reaction."
We do not know when the calamities and troubles of the last days will fall upon any of us as individuals or upon bodies of the Saints. The Lord deliberately withholds from us the day and hour of his coming and of the tribulations which shall precede it—all as part of the testing and probationary experiences of mortality. He simply tells us to watch and be ready.
We do not say that all of the Saints will be spared and saved from the coming day of desolation. But we do say there is no promise of safety and no promise of security except for those who love the Lord and who are seeking to do all that he commands.https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... s?lang=eng
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Re: Please Tell Me- Source of Northern Utah Bomb
When was this vision first given to the masses to read?kirtland r.m. wrote: ↑June 11th, 2019, 6:35 pm Not the happiest of subjects, but here goes. First, here is the John Taylor Vision, with interesting commentary by a non member of the Church.
I am NOT a member of the LDS (Mormon) Church myself. I have wondered AND prayed for the past few days what I should put in the August 1989 flyer. Last night in the shower some ideas from the past came to my mind. Years ago I came across a "Prophecy" By a Mormon pioneer. Following is a "vision" from an early Mormon about Nuclear War. I wrote a "letter to the Editor" which was published August 13, 1987. (Now 2015 = 28 years ago.) In our "Iron County Newspaper."
"Editor Review: What do I say and do, to make people believe?
LIFE is worth living after a Nuclear War. People feel helpless to stop it, THEN why not prepare for it? President John Taylor, the third LDS Church president, (right after Brigham Young died) TELLS us of an experience he had 110 years ago on December 16, 1877
(Now in 2015 it has been almost 138 years ago. WHO THEN Could have ever known about Nuclear War and fallout? 68 YEARS BEFORE THE A-BOMB was invented, ONLY a man of vision from God.)
John Taylor, HE SAYS: "I went to bed at my usual hour, half past nine o'clock.
I had been reading the revelations in the French Language. My mind was calm, more so than usual...I composed myself for sleep but could not sleep. I felt a strong stupor come over me...The first thing I recognized was that I was the Tabernacle at Ogden (Utah)...I arose to speak... I was immediately in Salt Lake City wandering about the streets in ALL parts of the City, AND on the door of "EVERY" house I found a badge of Mourning...It seemed strange to me that I saw NO person to be in their houses with their sick AND dead... the city looked still and quiet... I THEN LOOKED in ALL directions...east, west, north, and south AND I found the same mourning IN EVERY PLACE throughout the land. (The whole USA.)
The next thing I knew I was just this side of Omaha, (Nebraska.) It SEEMED as though I was above the Earth, looking down on it (he has been DEAD over 110 years now, so he was seeing the future from the spirit world) AS I passed along my way EAST. I saw the roads full of people, principally women, with just what they could carry in bundles on their backs, TRAVELING TO THE MOUNTAINS on foot...It was remarkable to me THAT there were so few men among them. (The men were killed off.) The RAILS looked rusty and the (rail) road abandoned. I continued Eastward through Omaha and Counsel Bluffs WHICH WERE full of disease AND WOMEN EVERYWHERE. CLICK HERE to see Isaiah's prophecy.
The next thing I saw was Washington AND I found the city a desolation. THE WHITE HOUSE EMPTY, the halls of Congress the same, EVERYTHING IN RUINS...I was next in Baltimore (Maryland) at the HOTELS I saw the dead PILED UP so as to fill the square...I saw NO MEN Except they were dead.
EVERYWHERE I went I beheld the same all over the city AND IT was horrible beyond description to look at. I thought this must be the end, but no, I was seemingly in Philadelphia and there as in Baltimore EVERYTHING was still. NO LIVING SOUL was seen to greet me...in fact EVERYWHERE I WENT the purification of the dead bodies caused such a stench that it was impossible for any creature to exist alive...I next found myself in Broadway, New York. In Broadway I saw the bodies of beautiful women lying stone dead, AND others in a dying condition on the sidewalk.
I saw MEN CRAWL OUT OF THE CELLAR (below ground) AND rob the dead ...and before they could return to their coverts IN THE CELLARS (below the fallout) they themselves would rollover a time or two (puking) and die in agony...I saw mothers kill their own children AND EAT raw flesh AND then in a few minutes die themselves.
WHEREVER I WENT I SAW THE SAME scenes of horror AND desolation, rapine, AND death.
I supposed this was the end, BUT I was given to understand that the SAME HORROR WAS being enacted ALL OVER the country, north, south, east west, THAT FEW were left alive, STILL THERE WERE SOME.
I SAW the whole states of Missouri AND Illinois AND part of Iowa were a complete wilderness WITH NO LIVING HUMAN BEING IN THEM. Instantly I found I was IN THE TABERNACLE IN OGDEN (Utah)...AT this time I seemed to stagger back...I ROLLED OVER IN MY BED and heard the city clock strike twelve o'clock. ( 12 Midnight. SO this "vision" lasted about two hours for him.) Remember this is what HE saw 138 years ago. 68 years before the Atom bomb was invented. See my fallout Map of Missouri, Illinois, and Iowa. Read the Russian Missiles Ready link. Targets to get hit in Missouri as was foretold 138 years ago in the dream. God knew back then what would make Missouri a complete wilderness. http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/u ... target-map
Column 1. and part of 2. August 1989 sheet "O" WHY won't people listen to a Prophet of God? WHY won't they prepare to live instead of killing the Children? BECAUSE that is exactly what they are doing, IF THEY DO NOT PREPARE.https://www.parowanprophet.com/A_Trojan ... lumn_1.htm
Now here is the Vision with no commentary if you wish.http://visionsandtribulation.blogspot.c ... -1877.html
Now, about Northern Utah. The Vision of Sarah Menet (1979)
The next thing that I felt more than I saw was that shortly after this there was no commerce, no shopping, buying, and was impressed that there was no economy. The economy had almost failed completely and no one had any money.
The next thing I saw was people being sick and dying. I saw this particularly in four cities: New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Salt Lake. The disease started by having white blisters, some the size of dimes appear on their hands, arms and face. This quickly developed into white puffy sores and blisters. People would stumble about and fall and then many died within a short time, maybe 24 hours. I also saw other people with blood coming from their nose, mouth, eyes and ears. It started like a flu virus and it spread very quickly, faster than the other white blister disease. The people who had this disease died even faster. This was more wide spread across the entire United States. There were hundreds of thousands of people stricken with these two diseases.
I knew that the diseases, and there were several different kinds, but at first primarily these two, came from small containers that had been brought into the United States. These containers were like quart jars and I was impressed that the people carrying them would just drop them on the ground in large crowds of people and the people would become infected without realizing it....As I was looking at the cities of light, I then saw missiles coming and hitting some cities and mushroom clouds started happening all over the United States. Some were from missiles that I knew came from Russia and others were not from missiles, but were from bombs that were already in the United States. They were hidden in trucks and in cars and were exploded.
I specifically saw Los Angeles, Las Vegas and New York hit with bombs. New York was hit with a missile, but I think that Los Angeles was hit by a truck bomb or actually several, because I didn't see any missile. I also saw north of Salt Lake City have a mushroom cloud, a small one, but no missile(possible suit case nuke).
In the darkness I also saw little fireballs. I don't know if this happened just before or during the mushroom clouds, but there were millions falling everywhere. They were very hot, of different sizes with most about the size of golf balls. As they fell from the sky they left a streak of flame and smoke behind them. Whatever they touched they started on fire: people, buildings, trees, grass, it didn't matter. I didn't ask what they were or where they came from, because by this time I was getting sick of the whole scene and so I just observed and didn't ask many questions.
When she saw "small burning balls" dropped from the sky, that would catch everything they touched on fire, she wasn't sure what kind of weapon she had seen, later Alan South came across an eye witness account of a survivor of one of the two nukes that ended W.W. Two in Japan( account was from Hiroshima). The eye witness report was the same as that Sarah's description of what she saw, a nuke. "Shortly after the nuclear blast, it rained these little fireballs.What happens is that the the nuclear blast melts everything and lifts it into the sky. This material then congeals together into these little balls of melted steel, dirt, and other materials which then fall from the sky, burning everything they touch".
Dreams and Visions of the Last Days p.95
*Nuclear bomb in No. Utah (HAFB)
Count this vision busted at your own risk.
The Vision of Charles D Evans .
Charles D. Evans was Patriarch to the Church in Springville, Utah and was a school teacher by profession.
In 1893 his vision was published in Volume 15 of the Contributor Magazine- later known as The Improvement Era.http://visionsandtribulation.blogspot.c ... r%20Attack
The Vision of Patriarch Iohani Wolfgramm (1980) "There will be a nuclear bomb or bombs go off in Northern Utah that will have an effect as far south as the Salt Lake Valley".http://visionsandtribulation.blogspot.c ... ohani.html
There are others who make the same claim about Northern Utah, but the above is a good sample.
On the air today, Joel Skousen repeats warning, move away from Hill A.F.B.
Fri Jan 04, 2019viewtopic.php?f=20&t=50257&p=902673&hil ... ke#p902673
1. (Bruce R. McConkie, Conferene Report April 1979, pp 132-133.)
"It may be for instance, that nothing except the power of faith and the authority of the priesthood can save individuals and congregations from the atomic holocaust that surely will be. And so we raise the warning voice and say; Take heed; prepare, watch and be ready. There is no security in any course except the course of obedience, conformity, and righteousness."
2. (Elder Harold B. Lee "President J. Reuben Clark , Jr--An Appreciation on his 90th birthday," Improvement Era Sept. 1961, p.632-633)
"We heard him (President Clark) reply in answer to a question as to why he had put his life savings into his presently owned Grantsville Ranch; 'This is all I have to leave my family when I die, and if they are not to lazy to work it, they will not starve. I have told them that when the first atomic bomb is dropped here in America, that they are to go out there on the ranch and to stay until it is over.' This last seemed not only to be wise counsel, but, also a prophecy."
3. (Ezra Taft Benson General Conference April 1961.)
More Bruce R. from that same Conference Talk. "The great destructive force which was to be turned loose on the earth on which the Prophets for centuries have been calling 'The Abomination of Desolation' is vividly described by those who saw it in vision. Ours is the first generation to realize how literally these prophecies can be fulfilled now that God, through science, has unlocked the secret to thermonuclear reaction."
We do not know when the calamities and troubles of the last days will fall upon any of us as individuals or upon bodies of the Saints. The Lord deliberately withholds from us the day and hour of his coming and of the tribulations which shall precede it—all as part of the testing and probationary experiences of mortality. He simply tells us to watch and be ready.
We do not say that all of the Saints will be spared and saved from the coming day of desolation. But we do say there is no promise of safety and no promise of security except for those who love the Lord and who are seeking to do all that he commands.https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... s?lang=eng
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Re: Please Tell Me- Source of Northern Utah Bomb
I am not sure, but I can add this. John Taylor’s Last Days Vision. This has been attributed to John Taylor, as he was the Prophet at the time that Wilford Woodruff recorded the vision in his journal. W.W. kept one of the most thorough journals. Though W.W. did not say who had this vision. However, John Taylor spoke French (he was from Canada), and W.W. did not.Themedicareguy wrote: ↑June 15th, 2019, 9:25 amWhen was this vision first given to the masses to read?kirtland r.m. wrote: ↑June 11th, 2019, 6:35 pm Not the happiest of subjects, but here goes. First, here is the John Taylor Vision, with interesting commentary by a non member of the Church.
I am NOT a member of the LDS (Mormon) Church myself. I have wondered AND prayed for the past few days what I should put in the August 1989 flyer. Last night in the shower some ideas from the past came to my mind. Years ago I came across a "Prophecy" By a Mormon pioneer. Following is a "vision" from an early Mormon about Nuclear War. I wrote a "letter to the Editor" which was published August 13, 1987. (Now 2015 = 28 years ago.) In our "Iron County Newspaper."
"Editor Review: What do I say and do, to make people believe?
LIFE is worth living after a Nuclear War. People feel helpless to stop it, THEN why not prepare for it? President John Taylor, the third LDS Church president, (right after Brigham Young died) TELLS us of an experience he had 110 years ago on December 16, 1877
(Now in 2015 it has been almost 138 years ago. WHO THEN Could have ever known about Nuclear War and fallout? 68 YEARS BEFORE THE A-BOMB was invented, ONLY a man of vision from God.)
John Taylor, HE SAYS: "I went to bed at my usual hour, half past nine o'clock.
I had been reading the revelations in the French Language. My mind was calm, more so than usual...I composed myself for sleep but could not sleep. I felt a strong stupor come over me...The first thing I recognized was that I was the Tabernacle at Ogden (Utah)...I arose to speak... I was immediately in Salt Lake City wandering about the streets in ALL parts of the City, AND on the door of "EVERY" house I found a badge of Mourning...It seemed strange to me that I saw NO person to be in their houses with their sick AND dead... the city looked still and quiet... I THEN LOOKED in ALL directions...east, west, north, and south AND I found the same mourning IN EVERY PLACE throughout the land. (The whole USA.)
The next thing I knew I was just this side of Omaha, (Nebraska.) It SEEMED as though I was above the Earth, looking down on it (he has been DEAD over 110 years now, so he was seeing the future from the spirit world) AS I passed along my way EAST. I saw the roads full of people, principally women, with just what they could carry in bundles on their backs, TRAVELING TO THE MOUNTAINS on foot...It was remarkable to me THAT there were so few men among them. (The men were killed off.) The RAILS looked rusty and the (rail) road abandoned. I continued Eastward through Omaha and Counsel Bluffs WHICH WERE full of disease AND WOMEN EVERYWHERE. CLICK HERE to see Isaiah's prophecy.
The next thing I saw was Washington AND I found the city a desolation. THE WHITE HOUSE EMPTY, the halls of Congress the same, EVERYTHING IN RUINS...I was next in Baltimore (Maryland) at the HOTELS I saw the dead PILED UP so as to fill the square...I saw NO MEN Except they were dead.
EVERYWHERE I went I beheld the same all over the city AND IT was horrible beyond description to look at. I thought this must be the end, but no, I was seemingly in Philadelphia and there as in Baltimore EVERYTHING was still. NO LIVING SOUL was seen to greet me...in fact EVERYWHERE I WENT the purification of the dead bodies caused such a stench that it was impossible for any creature to exist alive...I next found myself in Broadway, New York. In Broadway I saw the bodies of beautiful women lying stone dead, AND others in a dying condition on the sidewalk.
I saw MEN CRAWL OUT OF THE CELLAR (below ground) AND rob the dead ...and before they could return to their coverts IN THE CELLARS (below the fallout) they themselves would rollover a time or two (puking) and die in agony...I saw mothers kill their own children AND EAT raw flesh AND then in a few minutes die themselves.
WHEREVER I WENT I SAW THE SAME scenes of horror AND desolation, rapine, AND death.
I supposed this was the end, BUT I was given to understand that the SAME HORROR WAS being enacted ALL OVER the country, north, south, east west, THAT FEW were left alive, STILL THERE WERE SOME.
I SAW the whole states of Missouri AND Illinois AND part of Iowa were a complete wilderness WITH NO LIVING HUMAN BEING IN THEM. Instantly I found I was IN THE TABERNACLE IN OGDEN (Utah)...AT this time I seemed to stagger back...I ROLLED OVER IN MY BED and heard the city clock strike twelve o'clock. ( 12 Midnight. SO this "vision" lasted about two hours for him.) Remember this is what HE saw 138 years ago. 68 years before the Atom bomb was invented. See my fallout Map of Missouri, Illinois, and Iowa. Read the Russian Missiles Ready link. Targets to get hit in Missouri as was foretold 138 years ago in the dream. God knew back then what would make Missouri a complete wilderness. http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/u ... target-map
Column 1. and part of 2. August 1989 sheet "O" WHY won't people listen to a Prophet of God? WHY won't they prepare to live instead of killing the Children? BECAUSE that is exactly what they are doing, IF THEY DO NOT PREPARE.https://www.parowanprophet.com/A_Trojan ... lumn_1.htm
Now here is the Vision with no commentary if you wish.http://visionsandtribulation.blogspot.c ... -1877.html
Now, about Northern Utah. The Vision of Sarah Menet (1979)
The next thing that I felt more than I saw was that shortly after this there was no commerce, no shopping, buying, and was impressed that there was no economy. The economy had almost failed completely and no one had any money.
The next thing I saw was people being sick and dying. I saw this particularly in four cities: New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Salt Lake. The disease started by having white blisters, some the size of dimes appear on their hands, arms and face. This quickly developed into white puffy sores and blisters. People would stumble about and fall and then many died within a short time, maybe 24 hours. I also saw other people with blood coming from their nose, mouth, eyes and ears. It started like a flu virus and it spread very quickly, faster than the other white blister disease. The people who had this disease died even faster. This was more wide spread across the entire United States. There were hundreds of thousands of people stricken with these two diseases.
I knew that the diseases, and there were several different kinds, but at first primarily these two, came from small containers that had been brought into the United States. These containers were like quart jars and I was impressed that the people carrying them would just drop them on the ground in large crowds of people and the people would become infected without realizing it....As I was looking at the cities of light, I then saw missiles coming and hitting some cities and mushroom clouds started happening all over the United States. Some were from missiles that I knew came from Russia and others were not from missiles, but were from bombs that were already in the United States. They were hidden in trucks and in cars and were exploded.
I specifically saw Los Angeles, Las Vegas and New York hit with bombs. New York was hit with a missile, but I think that Los Angeles was hit by a truck bomb or actually several, because I didn't see any missile. I also saw north of Salt Lake City have a mushroom cloud, a small one, but no missile(possible suit case nuke).
In the darkness I also saw little fireballs. I don't know if this happened just before or during the mushroom clouds, but there were millions falling everywhere. They were very hot, of different sizes with most about the size of golf balls. As they fell from the sky they left a streak of flame and smoke behind them. Whatever they touched they started on fire: people, buildings, trees, grass, it didn't matter. I didn't ask what they were or where they came from, because by this time I was getting sick of the whole scene and so I just observed and didn't ask many questions.
When she saw "small burning balls" dropped from the sky, that would catch everything they touched on fire, she wasn't sure what kind of weapon she had seen, later Alan South came across an eye witness account of a survivor of one of the two nukes that ended W.W. Two in Japan( account was from Hiroshima). The eye witness report was the same as that Sarah's description of what she saw, a nuke. "Shortly after the nuclear blast, it rained these little fireballs.What happens is that the the nuclear blast melts everything and lifts it into the sky. This material then congeals together into these little balls of melted steel, dirt, and other materials which then fall from the sky, burning everything they touch".
Dreams and Visions of the Last Days p.95
*Nuclear bomb in No. Utah (HAFB)
Count this vision busted at your own risk.
The Vision of Charles D Evans .
Charles D. Evans was Patriarch to the Church in Springville, Utah and was a school teacher by profession.
In 1893 his vision was published in Volume 15 of the Contributor Magazine- later known as The Improvement Era.http://visionsandtribulation.blogspot.c ... r%20Attack
The Vision of Patriarch Iohani Wolfgramm (1980) "There will be a nuclear bomb or bombs go off in Northern Utah that will have an effect as far south as the Salt Lake Valley".http://visionsandtribulation.blogspot.c ... ohani.html
There are others who make the same claim about Northern Utah, but the above is a good sample.
On the air today, Joel Skousen repeats warning, move away from Hill A.F.B.
Fri Jan 04, 2019viewtopic.php?f=20&t=50257&p=902673&hil ... ke#p902673
1. (Bruce R. McConkie, Conferene Report April 1979, pp 132-133.)
"It may be for instance, that nothing except the power of faith and the authority of the priesthood can save individuals and congregations from the atomic holocaust that surely will be. And so we raise the warning voice and say; Take heed; prepare, watch and be ready. There is no security in any course except the course of obedience, conformity, and righteousness."
2. (Elder Harold B. Lee "President J. Reuben Clark , Jr--An Appreciation on his 90th birthday," Improvement Era Sept. 1961, p.632-633)
"We heard him (President Clark) reply in answer to a question as to why he had put his life savings into his presently owned Grantsville Ranch; 'This is all I have to leave my family when I die, and if they are not to lazy to work it, they will not starve. I have told them that when the first atomic bomb is dropped here in America, that they are to go out there on the ranch and to stay until it is over.' This last seemed not only to be wise counsel, but, also a prophecy."
3. (Ezra Taft Benson General Conference April 1961.)
More Bruce R. from that same Conference Talk. "The great destructive force which was to be turned loose on the earth on which the Prophets for centuries have been calling 'The Abomination of Desolation' is vividly described by those who saw it in vision. Ours is the first generation to realize how literally these prophecies can be fulfilled now that God, through science, has unlocked the secret to thermonuclear reaction."
We do not know when the calamities and troubles of the last days will fall upon any of us as individuals or upon bodies of the Saints. The Lord deliberately withholds from us the day and hour of his coming and of the tribulations which shall precede it—all as part of the testing and probationary experiences of mortality. He simply tells us to watch and be ready.
We do not say that all of the Saints will be spared and saved from the coming day of desolation. But we do say there is no promise of safety and no promise of security except for those who love the Lord and who are seeking to do all that he commands.https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... s?lang=eng
(Source: Wilford Woodruff’s Journal, June 15, 1878, in Waiting for World’s End, The Diaries of Wilford Woodruff, Edited by Susan Staker, Signature Books, 1993)
