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Catherine wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 10:46 am I have been a fierce defender of Julie Rowe. When I say fierce, I mean fierce. I spent hours supporting and defending her on several different forums. I felt a connection to her words that I could not deny. My personality has always been to stand up for the one who is being ganged up on. So for a couple of years I defended her like crazy.

The last couple of years I have taken a step back. Her countenance changed. Instead of sounding firm in her message she sounded more arrogant and angry. In her last podcast announcing her excommunication she raged against the brethren in her court about how wrong they were in their treatment and then went on to completely defame her Stake President. She then suggested that she knew that some of the men in that room had issues with pornography. She even went as far as to say that she saw her Stake Presidents death in the future. Is this the Savior's way? Was there any bit of humility in that podcast?

I personally know of other situations where she has perpetuated a division in eternal marriages. That is not acceptable.


Finally, I have a very close friend who is the absolute salt of the earth. She and her husband attended one of the most recent conferences she had in Rexburg. She told me that she was busy talking with people but turned and looked to find Julie. When she found her and looked at her face she saw the image of an evil spirit who looked at my friend and acted surprised that my friend could see him. My friend told me she grabbed her husbands hand and they left immediately.

The only reason why I have posted any of this is because I feel extreme guilt for the adamant support I have given Julie. Have I been an influence on others to follow her teachings? Am I accountable for some much more then I know? My heart and soul aches and I grieve for any influence I have had for the negative.

When all is said and done I feel a compassion in my heart for Julie. I feel like when she started out it was right. I feel like as time has gone on there has been some great deceiving that she may be unaware of. I am very confused that her friend Eric who seems so level headed is still supporting this. And where is his culpability? I feel that may be on the horizon as well. It is just not worth it. The blessings of the temple alone are worth doing everything in your power to hold on to them.

I am a mortal woman who does not claim to know the full truth of any of this. I am still on the fence on many aspects of this whole experience with Julie. I am grateful for so much of what she has inspired me to do.

I apologize to anyone who I have hurt in my defense of Julie and I ask for forgiveness. I also ask for Julie to forgive me as well. I don't want to hurt anyone. This has been an excruciating sadness on so many levels for me. I hope that all can heal.

Themedicareguy wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 11:01 am

Catherine wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 10:46 am I have been a fierce defender of Julie Rowe. When I say fierce, I mean fierce. I spent hours supporting and defending her on several different forums. I felt a connection to her words that I could not deny. My personality has always been to stand up for the one who is being ganged up on. So for a couple of years I defended her like crazy.

The last couple of years I have taken a step back. Her countenance changed. Instead of sounding firm in her message she sounded more arrogant and angry. In her last podcast announcing her excommunication she raged against the brethren in her court about how wrong they were in their treatment and then went on to completely defame her Stake President. She then suggested that she knew that some of the men in that room had issues with pornography. She even went as far as to say that she saw her Stake Presidents death in the future. Is this the Savior's way? Was there any bit of humility in that podcast?

I personally know of other situations where she has perpetuated a division in eternal marriages. That is not acceptable.


Finally, I have a very close friend who is the absolute salt of the earth. She and her husband attended one of the most recent conferences she had in Rexburg. She told me that she was busy talking with people but turned and looked to find Julie. When she found her and looked at her face she saw the image of an evil spirit who looked at my friend and acted surprised that my friend could see him. My friend told me she grabbed her husbands hand and they left immediately.

The only reason why I have posted any of this is because I feel extreme guilt for the adamant support I have given Julie. Have I been an influence on others to follow her teachings? Am I accountable for some much more then I know? My heart and soul aches and I grieve for any influence I have had for the negative.

When all is said and done I feel a compassion in my heart for Julie. I feel like when she started out it was right. I feel like as time has gone on there has been some great deceiving that she may be unaware of. I am very confused that her friend Eric who seems so level headed is still supporting this. And where is his culpability? I feel that may be on the horizon as well. It is just not worth it. The blessings of the temple alone are worth doing everything in your power to hold on to them.

I am a mortal woman who does not claim to know the full truth of any of this. I am still on the fence on many aspects of this whole experience with Julie. I am grateful for so much of what she has inspired me to do.

I apologize to anyone who I have hurt in my defense of Julie and I ask for forgiveness. I also ask for Julie to forgive me as well. I don't want to hurt anyone. This has been an excruciating sadness on so many levels for me. I hope that all can heal.

She misled a bunch of people. I know almost all the people she accused in that room, as well as the Stake President what she said could not be further from the truth. She is mentally ill, and that is the only good thing I take away from this, is that possibly the Lord will not judge her harshly because of it. Those who followed her though are in sore need of repentance. I forgive you Catherine, I know the Lord will too.

Catherine wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 10:46 am I have been a fierce defender of Julie Rowe. When I say fierce, I mean fierce. I spent hours supporting and defending her on several different forums. I felt a connection to her words that I could not deny. My personality has always been to stand up for the one who is being ganged up on. So for a couple of years I defended her like crazy.

The last couple of years I have taken a step back. Her countenance changed. Instead of sounding firm in her message she sounded more arrogant and angry. In her last podcast announcing her excommunication she raged against the brethren in her court about how wrong they were in their treatment and then went on to completely defame her Stake President. She then suggested that she knew that some of the men in that room had issues with pornography. She even went as far as to say that she saw her Stake Presidents death in the future. Is this the Savior's way? Was there any bit of humility in that podcast?

I personally know of other situations where she has perpetuated a division in eternal marriages. That is not acceptable.


Finally, I have a very close friend who is the absolute salt of the earth. She and her husband attended one of the most recent conferences she had in Rexburg. She told me that she was busy talking with people but turned and looked to find Julie. When she found her and looked at her face she saw the image of an evil spirit who looked at my friend and acted surprised that my friend could see him. My friend told me she grabbed her husbands hand and they left immediately.

The only reason why I have posted any of this is because I feel extreme guilt for the adamant support I have given Julie. Have I been an influence on others to follow her teachings? Am I accountable for some much more then I know? My heart and soul aches and I grieve for any influence I have had for the negative.

When all is said and done I feel a compassion in my heart for Julie. I feel like when she started out it was right. I feel like as time has gone on there has been some great deceiving that she may be unaware of. I am very confused that her friend Eric who seems so level headed is still supporting this. And where is his culpability? I feel that may be on the horizon as well. It is just not worth it. The blessings of the temple alone are worth doing everything in your power to hold on to them.

I am a mortal woman who does not claim to know the full truth of any of this. I am still on the fence on many aspects of this whole experience with Julie. I am grateful for so much of what she has inspired me to do.

I apologize to anyone who I have hurt in my defense of Julie and I ask for forgiveness. I also ask for Julie to forgive me as well. I don't want to hurt anyone. This has been an excruciating sadness on so many levels for me. I hope that all can heal.

Catherine wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 12:09 pm

Themedicareguy wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 11:01 am

Catherine wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 10:46 am I have been a fierce defender of Julie Rowe. When I say fierce, I mean fierce. I spent hours supporting and defending her on several different forums. I felt a connection to her words that I could not deny. My personality has always been to stand up for the one who is being ganged up on. So for a couple of years I defended her like crazy.

The last couple of years I have taken a step back. Her countenance changed. Instead of sounding firm in her message she sounded more arrogant and angry. In her last podcast announcing her excommunication she raged against the brethren in her court about how wrong they were in their treatment and then went on to completely defame her Stake President. She then suggested that she knew that some of the men in that room had issues with pornography. She even went as far as to say that she saw her Stake Presidents death in the future. Is this the Savior's way? Was there any bit of humility in that podcast?

I personally know of other situations where she has perpetuated a division in eternal marriages. That is not acceptable.


Finally, I have a very close friend who is the absolute salt of the earth. She and her husband attended one of the most recent conferences she had in Rexburg. She told me that she was busy talking with people but turned and looked to find Julie. When she found her and looked at her face she saw the image of an evil spirit who looked at my friend and acted surprised that my friend could see him. My friend told me she grabbed her husbands hand and they left immediately.

The only reason why I have posted any of this is because I feel extreme guilt for the adamant support I have given Julie. Have I been an influence on others to follow her teachings? Am I accountable for some much more then I know? My heart and soul aches and I grieve for any influence I have had for the negative.

When all is said and done I feel a compassion in my heart for Julie. I feel like when she started out it was right. I feel like as time has gone on there has been some great deceiving that she may be unaware of. I am very confused that her friend Eric who seems so level headed is still supporting this. And where is his culpability? I feel that may be on the horizon as well. It is just not worth it. The blessings of the temple alone are worth doing everything in your power to hold on to them.

I am a mortal woman who does not claim to know the full truth of any of this. I am still on the fence on many aspects of this whole experience with Julie. I am grateful for so much of what she has inspired me to do.

I apologize to anyone who I have hurt in my defense of Julie and I ask for forgiveness. I also ask for Julie to forgive me as well. I don't want to hurt anyone. This has been an excruciating sadness on so many levels for me. I hope that all can heal.

She misled a bunch of people. I know almost all the people she accused in that room, as well as the Stake President what she said could not be further from the truth. She is mentally ill, and that is the only good thing I take away from this, is that possibly the Lord will not judge her harshly because of it. Those who followed her though are in sore need of repentance. I forgive you Catherine, I know the Lord will too.

Thank you for your forgiveness. I really am so truly sorry.

DesertWonderer2 wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 12:26 pm It takes a big person to say what you said.

Catherine wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 10:46 am I have been a fierce defender of Julie Rowe. When I say fierce, I mean fierce. I spent hours supporting and defending her on several different forums. I felt a connection to her words that I could not deny. My personality has always been to stand up for the one who is being ganged up on. So for a couple of years I defended her like crazy.

The last couple of years I have taken a step back. Her countenance changed. Instead of sounding firm in her message she sounded more arrogant and angry. In her last podcast announcing her excommunication she raged against the brethren in her court about how wrong they were in their treatment and then went on to completely defame her Stake President. She then suggested that she knew that some of the men in that room had issues with pornography. She even went as far as to say that she saw her Stake Presidents death in the future. Is this the Savior's way? Was there any bit of humility in that podcast?

I personally know of other situations where she has perpetuated a division in eternal marriages. That is not acceptable.


Finally, I have a very close friend who is the absolute salt of the earth. She and her husband attended one of the most recent conferences she had in Rexburg. She told me that she was busy talking with people but turned and looked to find Julie. When she found her and looked at her face she saw the image of an evil spirit who looked at my friend and acted surprised that my friend could see him. My friend told me she grabbed her husbands hand and they left immediately.

The only reason why I have posted any of this is because I feel extreme guilt for the adamant support I have given Julie. Have I been an influence on others to follow her teachings? Am I accountable for some much more then I know? My heart and soul aches and I grieve for any influence I have had for the negative.

When all is said and done I feel a compassion in my heart for Julie. I feel like when she started out it was right. I feel like as time has gone on there has been some great deceiving that she may be unaware of. I am very confused that her friend Eric who seems so level headed is still supporting this. And where is his culpability? I feel that may be on the horizon as well. It is just not worth it. The blessings of the temple alone are worth doing everything in your power to hold on to them.

I am a mortal woman who does not claim to know the full truth of any of this. I am still on the fence on many aspects of this whole experience with Julie. I am grateful for so much of what she has inspired me to do.

I apologize to anyone who I have hurt in my defense of Julie and I ask for forgiveness. I also ask for Julie to forgive me as well. I don't want to hurt anyone. This has been an excruciating sadness on so many levels for me. I hope that all can heal.

Catherine wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 10:46 am I have been a fierce defender of Julie Rowe. When I say fierce, I mean fierce. I spent hours supporting and defending her on several different forums. I felt a connection to her words that I could not deny. My personality has always been to stand up for the one who is being ganged up on. So for a couple of years I defended her like crazy.

The last couple of years I have taken a step back. Her countenance changed. Instead of sounding firm in her message she sounded more arrogant and angry. In her last podcast announcing her excommunication she raged against the brethren in her court about how wrong they were in their treatment and then went on to completely defame her Stake President. She then suggested that she knew that some of the men in that room had issues with pornography. She even went as far as to say that she saw her Stake Presidents death in the future. Is this the Savior's way? Was there any bit of humility in that podcast?

I personally know of other situations where she has perpetuated a division in eternal marriages. That is not acceptable.


Finally, I have a very close friend who is the absolute salt of the earth. She and her husband attended one of the most recent conferences she had in Rexburg. She told me that she was busy talking with people but turned and looked to find Julie. When she found her and looked at her face she saw the image of an evil spirit who looked at my friend and acted surprised that my friend could see him. My friend told me she grabbed her husbands hand and they left immediately.

The only reason why I have posted any of this is because I feel extreme guilt for the adamant support I have given Julie. Have I been an influence on others to follow her teachings? Am I accountable for some much more then I know? My heart and soul aches and I grieve for any influence I have had for the negative.

When all is said and done I feel a compassion in my heart for Julie. I feel like when she started out it was right. I feel like as time has gone on there has been some great deceiving that she may be unaware of. I am very confused that her friend Eric who seems so level headed is still supporting this. And where is his culpability? I feel that may be on the horizon as well. It is just not worth it. The blessings of the temple alone are worth doing everything in your power to hold on to them.

I am a mortal woman who does not claim to know the full truth of any of this. I am still on the fence on many aspects of this whole experience with Julie. I am grateful for so much of what she has inspired me to do.

I apologize to anyone who I have hurt in my defense of Julie and I ask for forgiveness. I also ask for Julie to forgive me as well. I don't want to hurt anyone. This has been an excruciating sadness on so many levels for me. I hope that all can heal.

5tev3 wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 12:57 pm

Catherine wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 10:46 am I have been a fierce defender of Julie Rowe. When I say fierce, I mean fierce. I spent hours supporting and defending her on several different forums. I felt a connection to her words that I could not deny. My personality has always been to stand up for the one who is being ganged up on. So for a couple of years I defended her like crazy.

The last couple of years I have taken a step back. Her countenance changed. Instead of sounding firm in her message she sounded more arrogant and angry. In her last podcast announcing her excommunication she raged against the brethren in her court about how wrong they were in their treatment and then went on to completely defame her Stake President. She then suggested that she knew that some of the men in that room had issues with pornography. She even went as far as to say that she saw her Stake Presidents death in the future. Is this the Savior's way? Was there any bit of humility in that podcast?

I personally know of other situations where she has perpetuated a division in eternal marriages. That is not acceptable.


Finally, I have a very close friend who is the absolute salt of the earth. She and her husband attended one of the most recent conferences she had in Rexburg. She told me that she was busy talking with people but turned and looked to find Julie. When she found her and looked at her face she saw the image of an evil spirit who looked at my friend and acted surprised that my friend could see him. My friend told me she grabbed her husbands hand and they left immediately.

The only reason why I have posted any of this is because I feel extreme guilt for the adamant support I have given Julie. Have I been an influence on others to follow her teachings? Am I accountable for some much more then I know? My heart and soul aches and I grieve for any influence I have had for the negative.

When all is said and done I feel a compassion in my heart for Julie. I feel like when she started out it was right. I feel like as time has gone on there has been some great deceiving that she may be unaware of. I am very confused that her friend Eric who seems so level headed is still supporting this. And where is his culpability? I feel that may be on the horizon as well. It is just not worth it. The blessings of the temple alone are worth doing everything in your power to hold on to them.

I am a mortal woman who does not claim to know the full truth of any of this. I am still on the fence on many aspects of this whole experience with Julie. I am grateful for so much of what she has inspired me to do.

I apologize to anyone who I have hurt in my defense of Julie and I ask for forgiveness. I also ask for Julie to forgive me as well. I don't want to hurt anyone. This has been an excruciating sadness on so many levels for me. I hope that all can heal.

Props. But don't be so hard on yourself, stepping away from error takes courage and a love for truth. Whatever good came to you through the experience, hold onto it, let the bad slip away. Mortality exists so that these kinds of experiences can teach us. You now see both sides and have a unique perspective that could help many.

Catherine wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 10:46 am I have been a fierce defender of Julie Rowe. When I say fierce, I mean fierce. I spent hours supporting and defending her on several different forums. I felt a connection to her words that I could not deny. My personality has always been to stand up for the one who is being ganged up on. So for a couple of years I defended her like crazy.

The last couple of years I have taken a step back. Her countenance changed. Instead of sounding firm in her message she sounded more arrogant and angry. In her last podcast announcing her excommunication she raged against the brethren in her court about how wrong they were in their treatment and then went on to completely defame her Stake President. She then suggested that she knew that some of the men in that room had issues with pornography. She even went as far as to say that she saw her Stake Presidents death in the future. Is this the Savior's way? Was there any bit of humility in that podcast?

I personally know of other situations where she has perpetuated a division in eternal marriages. That is not acceptable.


Finally, I have a very close friend who is the absolute salt of the earth. She and her husband attended one of the most recent conferences she had in Rexburg. She told me that she was busy talking with people but turned and looked to find Julie. When she found her and looked at her face she saw the image of an evil spirit who looked at my friend and acted surprised that my friend could see him. My friend told me she grabbed her husbands hand and they left immediately.

The only reason why I have posted any of this is because I feel extreme guilt for the adamant support I have given Julie. Have I been an influence on others to follow her teachings? Am I accountable for some much more then I know? My heart and soul aches and I grieve for any influence I have had for the negative.

When all is said and done I feel a compassion in my heart for Julie. I feel like when she started out it was right. I feel like as time has gone on there has been some great deceiving that she may be unaware of. I am very confused that her friend Eric who seems so level headed is still supporting this. And where is his culpability? I feel that may be on the horizon as well. It is just not worth it. The blessings of the temple alone are worth doing everything in your power to hold on to them.

I am a mortal woman who does not claim to know the full truth of any of this. I am still on the fence on many aspects of this whole experience with Julie. I am grateful for so much of what she has inspired me to do.

I apologize to anyone who I have hurt in my defense of Julie and I ask for forgiveness. I also ask for Julie to forgive me as well. I don't want to hurt anyone. This has been an excruciating sadness on so many levels for me. I hope that all can heal.

Catherine wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 12:45 pm

DesertWonderer2 wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 12:26 pm It takes a big person to say what you said.

Catherine wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 10:46 am I have been a fierce defender of Julie Rowe. When I say fierce, I mean fierce. I spent hours supporting and defending her on several different forums. I felt a connection to her words that I could not deny. My personality has always been to stand up for the one who is being ganged up on. So for a couple of years I defended her like crazy.

The last couple of years I have taken a step back. Her countenance changed. Instead of sounding firm in her message she sounded more arrogant and angry. In her last podcast announcing her excommunication she raged against the brethren in her court about how wrong they were in their treatment and then went on to completely defame her Stake President. She then suggested that she knew that some of the men in that room had issues with pornography. She even went as far as to say that she saw her Stake Presidents death in the future. Is this the Savior's way? Was there any bit of humility in that podcast?

I personally know of other situations where she has perpetuated a division in eternal marriages. That is not acceptable.


Finally, I have a very close friend who is the absolute salt of the earth. She and her husband attended one of the most recent conferences she had in Rexburg. She told me that she was busy talking with people but turned and looked to find Julie. When she found her and looked at her face she saw the image of an evil spirit who looked at my friend and acted surprised that my friend could see him. My friend told me she grabbed her husbands hand and they left immediately.

The only reason why I have posted any of this is because I feel extreme guilt for the adamant support I have given Julie. Have I been an influence on others to follow her teachings? Am I accountable for some much more then I know? My heart and soul aches and I grieve for any influence I have had for the negative.

When all is said and done I feel a compassion in my heart for Julie. I feel like when she started out it was right. I feel like as time has gone on there has been some great deceiving that she may be unaware of. I am very confused that her friend Eric who seems so level headed is still supporting this. And where is his culpability? I feel that may be on the horizon as well. It is just not worth it. The blessings of the temple alone are worth doing everything in your power to hold on to them.

I am a mortal woman who does not claim to know the full truth of any of this. I am still on the fence on many aspects of this whole experience with Julie. I am grateful for so much of what she has inspired me to do.

I apologize to anyone who I have hurt in my defense of Julie and I ask for forgiveness. I also ask for Julie to forgive me as well. I don't want to hurt anyone. This has been an excruciating sadness on so many levels for me. I hope that all can heal.

Well I am truly sorry. It is humiliating but I want to set things right. I was wrong.

DesertWonderer2 wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 1:28 pm

Catherine wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 12:45 pm

DesertWonderer2 wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 12:26 pm It takes a big person to say what you said.

Catherine wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 10:46 am I have been a fierce defender of Julie Rowe. When I say fierce, I mean fierce. I spent hours supporting and defending her on several different forums. I felt a connection to her words that I could not deny. My personality has always been to stand up for the one who is being ganged up on. So for a couple of years I defended her like crazy.

The last couple of years I have taken a step back. Her countenance changed. Instead of sounding firm in her message she sounded more arrogant and angry. In her last podcast announcing her excommunication she raged against the brethren in her court about how wrong they were in their treatment and then went on to completely defame her Stake President. She then suggested that she knew that some of the men in that room had issues with pornography. She even went as far as to say that she saw her Stake Presidents death in the future. Is this the Savior's way? Was there any bit of humility in that podcast?

I personally know of other situations where she has perpetuated a division in eternal marriages. That is not acceptable.


Finally, I have a very close friend who is the absolute salt of the earth. She and her husband attended one of the most recent conferences she had in Rexburg. She told me that she was busy talking with people but turned and looked to find Julie. When she found her and looked at her face she saw the image of an evil spirit who looked at my friend and acted surprised that my friend could see him. My friend told me she grabbed her husbands hand and they left immediately.

The only reason why I have posted any of this is because I feel extreme guilt for the adamant support I have given Julie. Have I been an influence on others to follow her teachings? Am I accountable for some much more then I know? My heart and soul aches and I grieve for any influence I have had for the negative.

When all is said and done I feel a compassion in my heart for Julie. I feel like when she started out it was right. I feel like as time has gone on there has been some great deceiving that she may be unaware of. I am very confused that her friend Eric who seems so level headed is still supporting this. And where is his culpability? I feel that may be on the horizon as well. It is just not worth it. The blessings of the temple alone are worth doing everything in your power to hold on to them.

I am a mortal woman who does not claim to know the full truth of any of this. I am still on the fence on many aspects of this whole experience with Julie. I am grateful for so much of what she has inspired me to do.

I apologize to anyone who I have hurt in my defense of Julie and I ask for forgiveness. I also ask for Julie to forgive me as well. I don't want to hurt anyone. This has been an excruciating sadness on so many levels for me. I hope that all can heal.

Well I am truly sorry. It is humiliating but I want to set things right. I was wrong.

Don’t worry about it; there was only one perfect person to walk this earth. We all make mistakes. Maybe I’m partly to blame? Maybe if I hadn’t taken as aggressive a tone w you in some of our interactions regarding JR, you wouldn’t have dug your heels in and felt backed into a corner?

What I might suggest is to help get the word out to people who have gotten lost in “mists of darkness” bc of JR. You are probably still connected with many of them.

All the best.

Lloyd wrote: ↑August 15th, 2019, 10:19 am I think Julie Rowe needs our prayers. I can’t imagine how hard it would be to carry this burden and fight the adversary at the same time. I agree with Catherine I believe Julie started out right and somehow the devil got to her. We need to pray for her and her family. That energy healing can be scary stuff. There have been many that have opened themselves up to other mediums that have found themselves possessed by evil spirits. It’s all over YouTube. It would be hard to be in Julie’s situation. I hope she comes back to the Church. She has been a great blessing to me and my family helping us to prepare.

Kenco wrote: ↑August 16th, 2019, 2:30 pm Oh Catherine! Welcome to the club. I too was fooled by her at first. Then I was introduced to energy healing. Through prayer and scripture study I was able to see that both were wrong. I wondered why I had fallen for this stuff? The answer was a “wrong roads” situation. I had to learn about this stuff in order to recognize deception. Now I am so cautious I do not read or share anything spiritual that doesn’t come from the church. If the church’s logo is not on the info, I’m not interested.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yNQC-_srxH8

Catherine wrote: ↑May 28th, 2019, 10:46 am I have been a fierce defender of Julie Rowe. When I say fierce, I mean fierce. I spent hours supporting and defending her on several different forums. I felt a connection to her words that I could not deny. My personality has always been to stand up for the one who is being ganged up on. So for a couple of years I defended her like crazy.

The last couple of years I have taken a step back. Her countenance changed. Instead of sounding firm in her message she sounded more arrogant and angry. In her last podcast announcing her excommunication she raged against the brethren in her court about how wrong they were in their treatment and then went on to completely defame her Stake President. She then suggested that she knew that some of the men in that room had issues with pornography. She even went as far as to say that she saw her Stake Presidents death in the future. Is this the Savior's way? Was there any bit of humility in that podcast?

I personally know of other situations where she has perpetuated a division in eternal marriages. That is not acceptable.


Finally, I have a very close friend who is the absolute salt of the earth. She and her husband attended one of the most recent conferences she had in Rexburg. She told me that she was busy talking with people but turned and looked to find Julie. When she found her and looked at her face she saw the image of an evil spirit who looked at my friend and acted surprised that my friend could see him. My friend told me she grabbed her husbands hand and they left immediately.

The only reason why I have posted any of this is because I feel extreme guilt for the adamant support I have given Julie. Have I been an influence on others to follow her teachings? Am I accountable for some much more then I know? My heart and soul aches and I grieve for any influence I have had for the negative.

When all is said and done I feel a compassion in my heart for Julie. I feel like when she started out it was right. I feel like as time has gone on there has been some great deceiving that she may be unaware of. I am very confused that her friend Eric who seems so level headed is still supporting this. And where is his culpability? I feel that may be on the horizon as well. It is just not worth it. The blessings of the temple alone are worth doing everything in your power to hold on to them.

I am a mortal woman who does not claim to know the full truth of any of this. I am still on the fence on many aspects of this whole experience with Julie. I am grateful for so much of what she has inspired me to do.

I apologize to anyone who I have hurt in my defense of Julie and I ask for forgiveness. I also ask for Julie to forgive me as well. I don't want to hurt anyone. This has been an excruciating sadness on so many levels for me. I hope that all can heal.

Kenco wrote: ↑August 16th, 2019, 2:30 pm If the church’s logo is not on the info, I’m not interested.