A concern for Julie Rowe.

[The Airbender]

Then: The Prophet has turned his back on my message because we must learn not to be spoon fed the gospel. God, in times of need gives revelation to those outside the system, in order to wake up the people.

Finally: The Prophet is fallen and lost. I have been commanded to right the ship. Follow m[/i]e.

Julie has never said either of these last two.

I'd rather know the truth and be made free than maintain my membership in a worldy church.

[DesertWonderer2]

I posted this over a year ago:

After observing the likes of Denver snuffer, Chad Daybell and Julie Rowe over the past few years, I've gotten a better picture of how members of the church slide into apostasy.

At first the message is safe and simple : Follow the prophet, but hey, you know what happened to me?

Then it evolves into: I had an experience that makes me special, but you should still follow the Prophet.

Then: I have been given hidden knowledge concerning your safety or salvation, but you should pray about it and follow the prophet.

Then: I've been called on a mission to wake people up with secret information that is too dangerous for the prophet to say, so still follow the prophet, but pay attention to what I have to say.

Then: The Prophet has turned his back on my message because we must learn not to be spoon fed the gospel. God, in times of need gives revelation to those outside the system, in order to wake up the people.

Finally: The Prophet is fallen and lost. I have been commanded to right the ship. Follow me.

Julie radiates pride. She is inundated with it. It drips off her lips in everything she says. Her actions reflect pure pride. Satan has wound the flaxen cord of pride around her so tight that she is ripe with pride and a hard heart. I really do feel sorry for her, but she is dangerous now — Regardless if she is mentally ill.

Those of you who are still justifying any actions or words spoken by Julie Rowe are in serious danger of kicking yourself out of the church.

Todd,

Can you point to a "prophet" anywhere who has the fruit of a prophet like Joseph Smith? I'd be interested in hearing what he had to say.

No but so what? JS was the prophet of the restoration. I wouldn’t expect another prophet to have his fruits. That was JS calling. Other prophets have other callings.

[Deb1961]

So out of morbid curiosity I listened to the first half of the podcast, I couldn't stomach more. Two thought popped out. She outright says at the beginning that Joseph Smith is listening to her podcast today. And then, if I understand her cryptic speaking correctly, she says that she knows from detail visions how her stake president will die for this. I thought that was very creepy and borderline criminal. I was interested to see how closely eric would play along and defend her.

I listened to the first half as well but couldn't listen any further because it is so heartbreaking. I get the feeling it is all about her and her bread and butter. I'm praying for her family because I know her husband is concerned about her. As for me, I would rather die than get excommunicated. She said she has these visions about the stake president and that she would get sick in a week. I don't think her visions are from the light. She sounded very angry and dark. I hope she finds her way back to the church some day cause she will lose all her eternal blessings if she stays on this road of apostasy.

[topcat]

I posted this over a year ago:

After observing the likes of Denver snuffer, Chad Daybell and Julie Rowe over the past few years, I've gotten a better picture of how members of the church slide into apostasy.

At first the message is safe and simple : Follow the prophet, but hey, you know what happened to me?

Then it evolves into: I had an experience that makes me special, but you should still follow the Prophet.

Then: I have been given hidden knowledge concerning your safety or salvation, but you should pray about it and follow the prophet.

Then: I've been called on a mission to wake people up with secret information that is too dangerous for the prophet to say, so still follow the prophet, but pay attention to what I have to say.

Then: The Prophet has turned his back on my message because we must learn not to be spoon fed the gospel. God, in times of need gives revelation to those outside the system, in order to wake up the people.

Finally: The Prophet is fallen and lost. I have been commanded to right the ship. Follow me.

Julie radiates pride. She is inundated with it. It drips off her lips in everything she says. Her actions reflect pure pride. Satan has wound the flaxen cord of pride around her so tight that she is ripe with pride and a hard heart. I really do feel sorry for her, but she is dangerous now — Regardless if she is mentally ill.

Those of you who are still justifying any actions or words spoken by Julie Rowe are in serious danger of kicking yourself out of the church.

Todd,

Can you point to a "prophet" anywhere who has the fruit of a prophet like Joseph Smith? I'd be interested in hearing what he had to say.

No but so what? JS was the prophet of the restoration. I wouldn’t expect another prophet to have his fruits. That was JS calling. Other prophets have other callings.

Let's let the Scriptures explain, shall we? JST Gen 14:

27 And thus, having been approved of God, he was ordained an high priest after the order of the covenant which God made with Enoch,
28 It being after the order of the Son of God; which order came, not by man, nor the will of man; neither by father nor mother; neither by beginning of days nor end of years; but of God;
29 And it was delivered unto men by the calling of his own voice, according to his own will, unto as many as believed on his name.
30 For God having sworn unto Enoch and unto his seed with an oath by himself; that every one being ordained after this order and calling should have power, by faith, to break mountains, to divide the seas, to dry up waters, to turn them out of their course;
31 To put at defiance the armies of nations, to divide the earth, to break every band, to stand in the presence of God; to do all things according to his will, according to his command, subdue principalities and powers; and this by the will of the Son of God which was from before the foundation of the world.

Does the LDS Church claim the Melchizedek Priesthood? Yes it does.

Where is the evidence? Can you point to one of the things in the list above in the Church today or, more specifically, among the Brethren?


Let's do some common sense analysis. If there are prophets, seers, and revelators, not to mention translators, what are the fruits of them p, s, r, and t-ing? Fair question, isn't it?

Do you have a fair answer?