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Land Ownership vs Indentured-ship: Lost liberty

Posted: May 13th, 2019, 1:09 pm
by JK4Woods
In the early days of this nation one could settle, homestead, or purchase a certain plot of land and it became theirs.
No one could take it away.

I'm not sure when it changed, but no-one seems to be able to ever "own" their own land anymore.
Yes, you may have paid off the mortgage or bought a plot of land in cash dollars.

However, if you miss paying taxes one or two (or four or six) tax cycles, the land will be taken from you and sold on the courthouse steps to settle the tax bill.

Why is that?

Why does the family farm have to be sold to pay inheritance taxes?
Why do county property taxes rule, over recorded land ownership?

Seems like no one ever "owns" their own plot of land anymore... the tax man can evict and seize any one's land.
Likewise, local governments can seize and bequeath to another for the "greater good of the community".

Basic liberties and personal freedoms have been eroded. That erosion continues even in this day.
Americans being so indoctrinated in ease and comfort, are not likely to recognize the loss of personal rights, and constitutional rights and God-given rights until the effort to win them back is so monumental, and disruptive to their evolved lifestyle, that not a finger, or a voice, or a dollar is raised or contributed to beat back the slowly encroaching chains that bind one down to serfdom.

Re: Land Ownership vs Indentured-ship: Lost liberty

Posted: May 13th, 2019, 2:34 pm
by mes5464
KrisAnne Hall just talked about this

Re: Land Ownership vs Indentured-ship: Lost liberty

Posted: May 14th, 2019, 7:55 am
by JohnnyL
If a retiree's grass is "too high", mow it for them...

Re: Land Ownership vs Indentured-ship: Lost liberty

Posted: May 14th, 2019, 8:32 am
by ori
JohnnyL wrote: May 14th, 2019, 7:55 am If a retiree's grass is "too high", mow it for them...
??

Do you mean if a retiree owes taxes and has a hard time paying them, pay the taxes for them?

Re: Land Ownership vs Indentured-ship: Lost liberty

Posted: May 14th, 2019, 8:37 am
by JohnnyL
ori wrote: May 14th, 2019, 8:32 am
JohnnyL wrote: May 14th, 2019, 7:55 am If a retiree's grass is "too high", mow it for them...
??
Do you mean if a retiree owes taxes and has a hard time paying them, pay the taxes for them?

BTDT
From mes5464's video.

I am far from a fan of the USA's way of doing many things, including property tax. Taiwan has property tax, but it's so low that even people just living on cheap retirement can afford it.
To give you an idea, private auto insurance there is $80/yr.

Re: Land Ownership vs Indentured-ship: Lost liberty

Posted: May 14th, 2019, 9:12 am
by mes5464
Property tax is immoral, it implies that the government has some right to your property, which makes you a serf.

Re: Land Ownership vs Indentured-ship: Lost liberty

Posted: May 14th, 2019, 2:10 pm
by thestock
Oooooh! A thread dedicated to whining about taxes. Count me in! :)

Re: Land Ownership vs Indentured-ship: Lost liberty

Posted: May 14th, 2019, 9:01 pm
by buffalo_girl
I'll be gone for a couple of weeks, but this topic is one of great importance to me. Here in North Dakota the grandfather of one of our friends was able to 'secure' their family property in what is called a Land Patent. I have asked several lawyers to help us find out how this can be done, but am treated like an idiot.

Our farm property is made up of many original Homestead grants. Unfortunately, the county treasurer is more an idiot than I am. Property taxes increase every year despite the fact that out-of-state industrial projects invited by the politicians into our sparsely populated rural area promise to help with all sorts of things.

Our county got $500,000 for the 750,000 barrels of crude oil being pumped DAILY through our county for an entire year. Our county sheriff's budget for this year was $625,000. Ask me why later on. There are only 3500 people in the entire county!

The County Seat, a town of maybe 1300 people is $6.6 million in debt. No one seems to be able to explain exactly why.

Anyway, to quote the 'bad guy' from The Magnificent Seven, "If God hadn't meant for them to be shorn, He wouldn't have made them sheep."

North Dakota voters had the opportunity to eliminate ALL property taxes a few years ago. Although the State had a budget surplus of a couple of billion dollars, the politicians howled and carried on about school closures, lack of emergency response, blah, blah, blah. Sadly, the measure lost by a small margin.

In the meantime, look up Land Patents. https://www.teamlaw.org/LandPatents.htm