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There is a very thought provoking article over on Exponent today about making ones own Temple Garments. Its worth a read and discussion.

justme wrote: ↑May 11th, 2019, 8:01 pm There is a very thought provoking article over on Exponent today about making ones own Temple Garments. Its worth a read and discussion.

Could you provide a link?

investigator wrote: ↑May 12th, 2019, 9:58 am

justme wrote: ↑May 11th, 2019, 8:01 pm There is a very thought provoking article over on Exponent today about making ones own Temple Garments. Its worth a read and discussion.

Could you provide a link?

https://www.the-exponent.com/guest-post ... e-garment/

Call me edgy but I’m totally on board with anyone doing this even though I know it’s against CHI policies.

Benaishtart wrote: ↑May 12th, 2019, 10:50 am Call me edgy but I’m totally on board with anyone doing this even though I know it’s against CHI policies.

I have heard of cases where Ladies have made their own with permission and guidance based on fabric allergy problems. It also used to be the case that you could buy your garments at JC Penny.
The lady in this case seemed to be thoughtful and respectful.

I have done this for several years now. I came to many of the same conclusions the author did, and then did a lot of my own research and had many confirming experiences. It changed my relationship with my garment, and my Heavenly Parents -- all for the better.

There was a guy who sold iron ons at one point and I thought it was such a brilliant idea. I can see the church making some changes regarding garments in the future just as they have in the past.

The article makes some great points. I think it is fine that the church continues to make them for those who want them, but it would be far more practical for people to select their own clothing even if there were certain guidelines.

My wife has wanted to do this for a long time. A lot of people do it.

Excellent article.

I've heard that early Saints only wore their garments when actually attending the temple. Part of their sacred wardrobe.

There is nothing sacred about beehive industries, or the method of affixing the marks, whether being stitched with openings, or closed embroidery, or silk screened.

I happen to agree with the article wholly, and only because of the disruption to tradition and the octogenarians running the joint, will there be any kind of delay in changes to this very curious requirement.

In the Catholic Church, are the robes and frocks made by the church? or are they procured from outside vendors?

Like officer uniforms in the US Military... they can be sourced from many different vendors.

I had a friend a few years back from school that worked at the place where they make the garments and she was in charge of the machine that sewed on the markings and she said that there was no special training or authority given to the workers there. She said she would just sit there and run the machine.

My sister worked at Beehive making garments until last year and the it is currently not allowed that we make our own garments, but it was in the past. It was overseen by the Relief Society President.

I would love to be able to fit them to my body. They never fit right. I would love to use other fabrics as well.

Michelle wrote: ↑May 13th, 2019, 11:11 pm My sister worked at Beehive making garments until last year and the it is currently not allowed that we make our own garments, but it was in the past. It was overseen by the Relief Society President.

Whatever happened to teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves. If I was Bishop I would not care in the least. It’s like it’s against church policy to use a camera in the chapel. Well with our smartphones and social media it gets broken all the time. I simply choose to care about real doctrine.

Semi-related to the topic - and since it just now came in an email, thought I'd share here -

https://www.lds.org/church/news/church- ... n?lang=eng

Church Offers New Stretch Cotton Garments for Men
Contributed By Camille West, Church News.ChurchofJesusChrist.org

14 MAY 2019

The Church is offering new Stretch Cotton men’s garments that provide a close but comfortable fit.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is introducing new Stretch Cotton garments for men, available beginning May 14.

Women’s Stretch Cotton garments were introduced in January 2018, with additional styles offered in February 2019.

Stretch Cotton fabric is 95 percent cotton and 5 percent spandex. Its breathability and four-way stretch makes the garment more comfortable for a variety of body types and climates around the world.

Men’s Stretch Cotton garments have shorter sleeves, a soft elastic waistband with a lower rise, supportive brief style bottom, semi-flat performance seams, printed labels, mesh air-flow panels, and two new neckline options. Sizes range from 2XS to 5XL, in short, regular, and tall statures.

According to Jim Christensen, garment product manager, the design changes were in response to member feedback and requests. For example, the two new necklines are less visible beneath outerwear, and the shorter sleeves better accommodate commonly worn T-shirts and other similar attire.

“We are thrilled to be able to offer new garment styles specific to what men have been asking for, like a lower crew neckline and shorter sleeves so they can wear T-shirts without being concerned that their garment tops are showing,” he said. “And the new, snugger-fitting V-neck top provides a slimmer, modern profile.”

The men’s Stretch Cotton knee-length support brief, V-neck top, and lower crew top will be available to members around the world by the end of 2019.

Beginning mid-May 2019, customers in the U.S. and Canada may purchase or place orders for the product at a Distribution Services retail store, including Deseret Book stores with a Distribution Services section; at store.ChurchofJesusChrist.org/garments; or by calling Customer Support at (800) 537-5971.

Sacred temple garments are worn by adult members of the Church “who have made sacred promises of fidelity to God’s commandments and the gospel of Jesus Christ in temples.” They “represent the sacred and personal aspect of their relationship with God and their commitment to live good, honorable lives.”

While on this topic, one of my pet peeves about Beehive made garments is the materials are so cheap. An average pair of garments only lasts on year, if that. They tear, they stretch, and they go gray all too soon.

I wish I could make my own. I would use better materials that didn't go gray, and sew them together more securely.

I imagine that if the church came out with a policy stipulating that only bread purchased from a certain LDS owned bakery could be used for the sacrament, that would be similar to what has transpired with garments.

I am fully on board with people sewing their own or whatever, there is nothing magical about Beehive or the distribution center.

passionflower wrote: ↑May 14th, 2019, 11:25 am While on this topic, one of my pet peeves about Beehive made garments is the materials are so cheap. An average pair of garments only lasts on year, if that. They tear, they stretch, and they go gray all too soon.

I wish I could make my own. I would use better materials that didn't go gray, and sew them together more securely.

In regards to them going gray. I used to fret about that years ago, and wondered how I could keep them that pristine white color, like when they were new. Then a friend of mine who worked for the Church informed me that the material they use to make garments starts out that gray color - then they dye it with a small bit of blue dye, and that's what turns the fabric uber white. Washing them makes the dye rinse out over time, turning them back into that gray color. So if anyone wants their garments to return to white, dye them with a small amount of blue fabric dye (I forget the ratio of dye, and the exact color - just that it was a small bit of blue dye). She also said the fastest way to turn them back to the original gray color is to wash them with bleach and with hot water.