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Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 23rd, 2019, 3:15 pm
by markharr
The last time that the Ark is mentioned is under Jeremiah, which also happens to be the same time that Lehi departed Jerusalem.
Some non-lds scripture mentions that it was hidden back up in Mt. Nebo but that was recorded 400 years after it would have occured. This is also referenced on LDS.org
The last mention of it is made during the days of the reform of King Josiah. From this point on, the scripture is silent as to the location and existence of the ark. The Jewish historian Josephus records that the temple of Herod in Jerusalem at the time of Christ did not contain the ark. (Josephus, Wars of the Jews, bk. V, v. 5.) Jewish traditions suggest that either Nebuchadnezzar destroyed the ark along with the temple in his conquest of Judah, or that before the destruction of the temple, Jeremiah, the prophet, hid the ark in the mount from where Moses had centuries before viewed the land of promise (Mt. Nebo), and there it was to remain until God gathered his people again. Its final end or even its possible existence today has not been revealed.
https://www.lds.org/study/new-era/1973/ ... y?lang=eng
Jeremiah would have known that Babylon was going to invade soon and would have taken steps to hide the Ark. What better place to hide it than on a completely different continent.
Posted: April 23rd, 2019, 3:26 pm
by BeNotDeceived
Perhaps near points, in harmony with
Earth as Liahona.
Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 23rd, 2019, 3:33 pm
by Alaris
Super interesting. I tend to believe that one guys account who says he found it underground near where the Savior was crucified and that the Saviors blood from the cross spilled down into the ground and onto the mercy seat. That would reinforce Yom Kippur and my belief that Jesus didn't self sacrifice or self resurrect.
Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 23rd, 2019, 3:37 pm
by markharr
Alaris wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 3:33 pm
Super interesting. I tend to believe that one guys account who says he found it underground near where the Savior was crucified and that he Saviors blood from the cross spilt down into the ground and onto the mercy seat. That would reinforce Yom Kippur and my belief that Jesus didn't self sacrifice or self resurrect.
Interesting that you bring that up because I was just watching a video on Youtube that referenced that.
Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 24th, 2019, 11:27 pm
by The Airbender
I was going to post what markharr posted.
Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 25th, 2019, 9:40 am
by kittycat51
markharr wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 3:37 pm
Alaris wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 3:33 pm
Super interesting. I tend to believe that one guys account who says he found it underground near where the Savior was crucified and that he Saviors blood from the cross spilt down into the ground and onto the mercy seat. That would reinforce Yom Kippur and my belief that Jesus didn't self sacrifice or self resurrect.
Interesting that you bring that up because I was just watching a video on Youtube that referenced that.
FASCINATING! Thanks for sharing. I guess stay tuned....
Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 25th, 2019, 10:07 am
by justme
Is this why Lehi and company had to be so secretive when leaving Jerusalem, and taking Zoram with them?
Did Laban also have the ark when they went back for the brass plates? Were the brass plates stored in the ark?
Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 25th, 2019, 12:36 pm
by justme
And then what happened? Is the reason that Laman and Lemuel was so mad at Nephi is because he took the Ark with him? Did it pass down through the prophets? Did Moroni use it to transport the records in to upstate new york to bury (it would have been heavy so maybe he used a cuelom to carry it). In fact could he have just buried the ark on cumorah. Maybe the "box" that Joseph Smith uncovered was really the ark itself.
Then what? Did Brigham bring it to salt lake in wagon with the sacred temple records and other artifacts? Maybe that is why the church invested so much to build the granite mountain vaults so they could have a secure place to secure the ark. Maybe you are on to something with this thread.
Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 25th, 2019, 9:29 pm
by OCDMOM
Do the Jewish people believe that the Messiah won't return until they have the Ark of the Covenant ?
Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 26th, 2019, 11:31 am
by markharr
OCDMOM wrote: ↑April 25th, 2019, 9:29 pm
Do the Jewish people believe that the Messiah won't return until they have the Ark of the Covenant ?
According to that video I posted they do. Not sure how accurate that is.
Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 26th, 2019, 7:23 pm
by kittycat51
justme wrote: ↑April 25th, 2019, 12:36 pm
And then what happened? Is the reason that Laman and Lemuel was so mad at Nephi is because he took the Ark with him? Did it pass down through the prophets? Did Moroni use it to transport the records in to upstate new york to bury (it would have been heavy so maybe he used a cuelom to carry it). In fact could he have just buried the ark on cumorah. Maybe the "box" that Joseph Smith uncovered was really the ark itself.
Then what? Did Brigham bring it to salt lake in wagon with the sacred temple records and other artifacts? Maybe that is why the church invested so much to build the granite mountain vaults so they could have a secure place to secure the ark. Maybe you are on to something with this thread.
Did you watch the video? Apparently it's still in Jerusalem.

Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 27th, 2019, 9:10 am
by justme
kittycat51 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2019, 7:23 pm
justme wrote: ↑April 25th, 2019, 12:36 pm
And then what happened? Is the reason that Laman and Lemuel was so mad at Nephi is because he took the Ark with him? Did it pass down through the prophets? Did Moroni use it to transport the records in to upstate new york to bury (it would have been heavy so maybe he used a cuelom to carry it). In fact could he have just buried the ark on cumorah. Maybe the "box" that Joseph Smith uncovered was really the ark itself.
Then what? Did Brigham bring it to salt lake in wagon with the sacred temple records and other artifacts? Maybe that is why the church invested so much to build the granite mountain vaults so they could have a secure place to secure the ark. Maybe you are on to something with this thread.
Did you watch the video? Apparently it's still in Jerusalem.
Actually it is in a church in Ethiopia, according to FoxNews.
Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 27th, 2019, 10:30 am
by kittycat51
justme wrote: ↑April 27th, 2019, 9:10 am
kittycat51 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2019, 7:23 pm
justme wrote: ↑April 25th, 2019, 12:36 pm
And then what happened? Is the reason that Laman and Lemuel was so mad at Nephi is because he took the Ark with him? Did it pass down through the prophets? Did Moroni use it to transport the records in to upstate new york to bury (it would have been heavy so maybe he used a cuelom to carry it). In fact could he have just buried the ark on cumorah. Maybe the "box" that Joseph Smith uncovered was really the ark itself.
Then what? Did Brigham bring it to salt lake in wagon with the sacred temple records and other artifacts? Maybe that is why the church invested so much to build the granite mountain vaults so they could have a secure place to secure the ark. Maybe you are on to something with this thread.
Did you watch the video? Apparently it's still in Jerusalem.
Actually it is in a church in Ethiopia, according to FoxNews.
Ha-Ha I saw that on "Expedition Unknown" with Josh Gates a couple of years ago. But I thought the thing on Fox News discovered it was not the real Ark?
Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 27th, 2019, 12:22 pm
by brianj
justme wrote: ↑April 27th, 2019, 9:10 am
kittycat51 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2019, 7:23 pm
justme wrote: ↑April 25th, 2019, 12:36 pm
And then what happened? Is the reason that Laman and Lemuel was so mad at Nephi is because he took the Ark with him? Did it pass down through the prophets? Did Moroni use it to transport the records in to upstate new york to bury (it would have been heavy so maybe he used a cuelom to carry it). In fact could he have just buried the ark on cumorah. Maybe the "box" that Joseph Smith uncovered was really the ark itself.
Then what? Did Brigham bring it to salt lake in wagon with the sacred temple records and other artifacts? Maybe that is why the church invested so much to build the granite mountain vaults so they could have a secure place to secure the ark. Maybe you are on to something with this thread.
Did you watch the video? Apparently it's still in Jerusalem.
Actually it is in a church in Ethiopia, according to FoxNews.
Not according to Fox News. When repeating the claims of other people they are not making the claim.
The claim that it's in Ethiopia is from an Abune of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church.
Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 27th, 2019, 5:51 pm
by onefour1
Revelation 11:19
19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
Perhaps the ark of the covenant (testament) is already in heaven.
Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 27th, 2019, 7:02 pm
by oneClimbs
Hiding in the Americas would seem like a good place, lot’s of caves and who would suspect it?
Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 28th, 2019, 8:39 am
by OCDMOM
Rumors that it is in the Grand canyon, or Oak Island. Maybe with new Technology they will find it.
Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 28th, 2019, 10:12 am
by Moon1943
Ron Wyatt was a every respected archiiologist. A very humble man. Six people died prior to Ron's excavations looking for the Ark of the Covenant in Israel. He also discovered Noah ark. People watch his videos on his excavations for the ark of the Covenant.FANTASTIC!! GOD IS REVEALING HIMSELF THROUGH HIS BLOOD!!
Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 28th, 2019, 12:20 pm
by JohnnyL
Seriously, seriously doubt it.
Re: Is it possible that Lehi or Mulek took the Ark of the covenant to the Americas?
Posted: April 28th, 2019, 2:42 pm
by The Airbender
justme wrote: ↑April 25th, 2019, 10:07 am
Is this why Lehi and company had to be so secretive when leaving Jerusalem, and taking Zoram with them?
Did Laban also have the ark when they went back for the brass plates? Were the brass plates stored in the ark?
I don't believe he took the Ark of the Covenant as that is currently located in a cave under the hill Golgotha. What he was in possession of, and you can read this in the Sealed Book of Mormon, was the Sealed Book of Moses. This is the book Josiah read and for fear tore his clothes and prayed the prophecies would not take place in his day.
https://www.amazon.com/Sealed-Mormon-Ma ... 1798768623