LDS Freedom Forum

Justme,
What if I want to take back the meaning of the word "gay". When I was a child it only meant one thing among the people I was growing up with, and that was carefree and happy. Well, I don't think the meaning should have changed, so I am insisting on taking it back from the way EVERYONE else now uses it. First, I will have to get the Church to change the name of the MormonandGay website. They don't want to use Mormon any longer, and I don't want them to use gay. Let's see how either one of those works out.

There are also people who say that Christians and Islam worship the same God, because Allah means God to them, and Christ is also God in Christian religions. But it doesn't take much study to discover they are not synonymous.

Words have meaning, and most of that meaning is what the users of the words believe they mean. No one, and I mean no one, believes Globalism has the same meaning as Zion, or the Kingdom of God on the Earth. It just doesn't.

Globalism is where we are headed and where will will end up. You will have two choices- enslavement or death.

Globalism may be a "spectre" to some folks, but there is a host of historians, investigative researchers, and “Johnny on the spot” people, even a few who are LDS, who have observed, experienced and reported events that confirm the existence of the conspiracy we are concerned about in this discussion.

Please listen from 19 minutes to 30 minutes and tell me what you think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivFTIh5 ... 12&t=1422s

Fiannan wrote: ↑April 24th, 2019, 12:08 pm Please listen from 19 minutes to 30 minutes and tell me what you think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivFTIh5 ... 12&t=1422s

A further reminder that the LDGs are using the United States to head up the globalist movement.

justme wrote: ↑April 24th, 2019, 10:35 am Finally someone gets the point.

It is frustrating when the other side hijacks words and put the opposite meaning to them. As other examples it is annoying that the abortion crowd has hijacked "freedom of choice" and "homophobia" strikes me as wrong.

It seems to me like a victory for satan when the word globalist is used as a bad word when it should be the ultimate goal.

And I am glad to hear somebody knows the true meaning of the word myriad.

I got the point. I understood that what you thought "globalism" means is not what everyone else thinks it means. So I was rather matter-of-fact when I said "Globalism is associated with authoritarian control of the entire world, by despotic regimes." (Emphasis added this time around)

So you're welcome to try and correct everyone else about what "globalism" really means, but to everyone else, and I mean everyone, it means "one-world government", with the unstated (yet acknowledged as absolutely true) understanding that this definition specifically excludes when Jesus is ruling the world as King.

Globalism most certainly does mean "one-world government [under man, not God]", but on this forum specifically it's a bad thing. There are people out there who think it's a good thing, but again, they are not thinking about when Jesus is going to reign when they use that word.

So yes, not everywhere is "globalism" considered a bad thing, but everywhere it does exclude Jesus reigning as King, and everywhere it does mean more control by mortal political elites.

I had never, EVER heard of "globalism" as referring to when Jesus reigns, until you started this thread.


Using the word "homophobia" is wrong because (a) it's not factually correct when it is applied... meaning, people speaking against homosexual behavior are not scared of homosexuality. May as well call us "murderphobes" because we speak against murder. Or you may as well say I'm a "kleptophobe" because I teach my children not to steal. It's nonsense. And (b) the people who say it are name-calling. "You homophobe" is name-calling and as such is inappropriate. They rightly denounce calling people "faggots", but then turn around and label others with "homophobe" -- it's just wrong, plain and simple.

harakim wrote: ↑April 24th, 2019, 9:37 am

simpleton wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 9:15 pm

justme wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 3:08 pm I look forward to the building of Zion where we will all be of one heart and one mind.
We all? Now yes, some will learn to become of one heart and one mind, but only a small remnant. (according to prophecy) For example, how many in church right now are even becoming of one heart and one mind. Probably couldn't even find 5 in the whole church membership.


I can find five in my ward. I think you might be surprised.

Lets see, with an average of say 5 per ward, what would that be overall... that is a very good start... That would be very nice.

justme wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 8:16 pm Reading comprehension is not a strong point here I see.

I tried to be clear and concise and I am amazed that anyone professing to be LDS can take issue with what I said.

The problem is in your limited and specialized definition of globalist. I never said that I accepted your definition. In fact all these replies provide an excellent example of straw man fallacy.

On the other hand based on the gospel principals listed in the original post the word globalist should more appropriately be used as a good word, not hijacked like you all have.

Remove all evil as Christ will do and you can have righteous globalism. Not everyone during the Millennium will be LDS. but they will be righteous.

Does this help?

justme wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 3:08 pmI look forward to the building of Zion where we will all be of one heart and one mind.

Doctrine and Covenants 105:5, 8-9, 14, 32, 34, 37

5 And Zion cannot be built up unless it is by the principles of the law of the celestial kingdom; otherwise I cannot receive her unto myself.
8 But I speak concerning my churches abroad—there are many who will say: Where is their God? Behold, he will deliver them in time of trouble, otherwise we will not go up unto Zion, and will keep our moneys.
9 Therefore, in consequence of the transgressions of my people, it is expedient in me that mine elders should wait for a little season for the redemption of Zion—
14 For behold, I do not require at their hands to fight the battles of Zion; for, as I said in a former commandment, even so will I fulfil—I will fight your battles.
32 That the kingdoms of this world may be constrained to acknowledge that the kingdom of Zion is in very deed the kingdom of our God and his Christ; therefore, let us become subject unto her laws.
34 And let those commandments which I have given concerning Zion and her law be executed and fulfilled, after her redemption.
37 And inasmuch as they follow the counsel which they receive, they shall have power after many days to accomplish all things pertaining to Zion.

2 Nephi 6:12-13
12 And blessed are the Gentiles, they of whom the prophet has written; for behold, if it so be that they shall repent and fight not against Zion, and do not unite themselves to that great and abominable church, they shall be saved; for the Lord God will fulfil his covenants which he has made unto his children; and for this cause the prophet has written these things.
13 Wherefore, they that fight against Zion and the covenant people of the Lord shall lick up the dust of their feet; and the people of the Lord shall not be ashamed. For the people of the Lord are they who wait for him....

Doctrine and Covenants 11:6
6 Now, as you have asked, behold, I say unto you, keep my commandments, and seek to bring forth and establish the cause of Zion.

Doctrine and Covenants 30:11
11 And your whole labor shall be in Zion, with all your soul, from henceforth; yea, you shall ever open your mouth in my cause, not fearing what man can do, for I am with you. Amen.

TI Fight, Fought
all who fight against Zion shall be destroyed, 1 Ne. 22:14, 19 (2 Ne. 6:13; 10:13–16)

lundbaek wrote: ↑April 24th, 2019, 12:25 pm

Fiannan wrote: ↑April 24th, 2019, 12:08 pm Please listen from 19 minutes to 30 minutes and tell me what you think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivFTIh5 ... 12&t=1422s

A further reminder that the LDGs are using the United States to head up the globalist movement.

And that Washington DC is pretty much an echo chamber for the philosophy of interventionism.

The law of the Celestial Kingdom is the true globalism. Any other form of globalism is not of God. Thus, any individual or movement that seeks to supplant national sovereignty generally or the Constitution of the United States specifically is not of God.

Some have taught that the law during the Millennium will be a theocracy, others the Constitution. Either way, it will be of God.

Regarding where we stand today:

"The United Nations takeover of United States' landmarks is sending a clear message to newer generations – that the days of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, independence, and the like are somehow gone – magically evaporated in the wake of a New World Order that no one voted for, only a tiny elite few championed, and yet everyone is supposed to yield and submit to."

Confucious say, no globe, no globalism.

Watch a few minutes from 8:25. He discusses the concept of "reframing" in regards to globalization.

Actually, his entire discussion of psychology and the manipulation of the public mind is really good.