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I rarely post on this site, but do read it often. I wanted to open some eyes to what is really being taught to our children. The new Pearson US history book calls President Trump mentally unstable and the people who voted for him racist. But after digging around a little I found this article about the author. How can we have an avowed communist writing the text books?

The most underappreciated political story of our time is the changing content of K-12 textbooks in history, civics, social studies, and related subjects. Yes, I said political story. Why are Millennials so receptive to socialism? Why are today’s Democrats dominated by identity politics? Why have movements on the political right shifted from a constitutional conservatism symbolized by the Boston Tea Party to a populist nationalism? All these changes, and more, are connected to what today’s history textbooks are, and are not, teaching. Yet we’ve barely noticed the link.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/a ... dn7IXvijQ8

Here are some tidbits from the text book:

Trump’s supporters saw the vote as a victory for the people who, like themselves, had been forgotten in a fast-changing America–a mostly older, often rural or suburban, and overwhelmingly white group. Clinton’s supporters feared that the election had been determined by people who were afraid of a rapidly developing ethnic diversity of the country, discomfort with their candidate’s gender, and nostalgia for an earlier time in the nation’s history. They also worried about the mental instability of the president-elect and the anger that he and his supporters brought to the nation.

He was strongly anti-free trade as Sanders was and, like Sanders among the Democrats, Trump tapped into the sense of alienation and “being left behind” that many voters–most of all white poor and working-class voters–felt. …

Most thought that Trump was too extreme a candidate to win the nomination, but his extremism, his anti establishment rhetoric and, some said, his not-very-hidden racism connected with a significant number of primary voters–more voters than any other single Republican candidate.”

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/new-am ... U9_kixlEOw

When Saul Alinsky came into our little town to organize the teachers in the 70's my parents and grandparents ran him out of town and fired the teachers. I can not believe how far we have allowed this to go. When a history book used in 90 percent of our nations schools reads like a New York Times Op-ed, we are doomed.

It does not matter whether you like President Trump or hate him, this is just pure evil.

Bet the Utah education establishment will eagerly adopt this book for schools.

As one that is convinced that the president is mentally unstable, I see nothing wrong with this. Have you read his tweets today. Absolutely disgusting that this person is our president.

justme wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 11:23 am As one that is convinced that the president is mentally unstable, I see nothing wrong with this. Have you read his tweets today. Absolutely disgusting that this person is our president.

How would you feel if it said many of the people who voted for Hillary were in favor of killing babies. Do you think these kind of opinions belong in a text book?

The ignorance and apathy of the American people is disgusting. It's no wonder we have communists writing textbooks for our government schools. All part of the plan and has been for decades.

Thanks for posting, Indy.

Indy wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 11:55 am

justme wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 11:23 am As one that is convinced that the president is mentally unstable, I see nothing wrong with this. Have you read his tweets today. Absolutely disgusting that this person is our president.

How would you feel if it said many of the people who voted for Hillary were in favor of killing babies. Do you think these kind of opinions belong in a text book?

I don't think it's an opinion that most (or more likely, all) of the people who voted for the murderous, anti-Christ, rape enabler Hillary are in favor of killing babies - it's their trademark, their sacrament - they're proud of their worship of Moloch.

We must have different views of what a textbook is and what should be in it. Do you not think that we should be presented with both views, and the opportunity to develop critical reasoning skills to distinguish between opposing views?

I personally read both cnn and foxnews everyday on purpose.

justme wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 11:23 am As one that is convinced that the president is mentally unstable, I see nothing wrong with this. Have you read his tweets today. Absolutely disgusting that this person is our president.

I voted for Trump and I'm NOT a racist. For those history books to say that I am offends me. (Yes I wish he would quit tweeting though)

Something similar took place in Germany almost a century ago.

justme wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 12:34 pm We must have different views of what a textbook is and what should be in it. Do you not think that we should be presented with both views, and the opportunity to develop critical reasoning skills to distinguish between opposing views?

I personally read both cnn and foxnews everyday on purpose.

It is propaganda. Only one viewpoint is being referenced. It is nothing but leftist religious belief masquerading as fact.

But even if other viewpoints were represented, believing that listening to 2 different opinions of something leads to critical thinking is wrong. You have to have some standard of truth to measure those opinions against. This is not being provided in modern history books. A history book containing nothing but contradicting opinions about events would be useless.

justme wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 12:34 pm We must have different views of what a textbook is and what should be in it. Do you not think that we should be presented with both views, and the opportunity to develop critical reasoning skills to distinguish between opposing views?

I personally read both cnn and foxnews everyday on purpose.

And what do you read for your second opinion?

justme wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 12:34 pm We must have different views of what a textbook is and what should be in it. Do you not think that we should be presented with both views, and the opportunity to develop critical reasoning skills to distinguish between opposing views?

I personally read both cnn and foxnews everyday on purpose.

History is not meant to be opinions. While history is written by the victors it was meant to reflect what happened.

ie The beaches of Normandy were invaded, an accurate description of the Battle of the Bulge. How the Constitution was written and who wrote it, and their beliefs when they wrote it.

It is not what people think of Trump trolling communist whack jobs and making their heads explode. While it is fun to watch it is not really history, nor is it actually what he is doing. The trolling is cover for what he is actually doing.

And it is working very well for him.

Serragon wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 2:03 pm

justme wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 12:34 pm We must have different views of what a textbook is and what should be in it. Do you not think that we should be presented with both views, and the opportunity to develop critical reasoning skills to distinguish between opposing views?

I personally read both cnn and foxnews everyday on purpose.

It is propaganda. Only one viewpoint is being referenced. It is nothing but leftist religious belief masquerading as fact.

But even if other viewpoints were represented, believing that listening to 2 different opinions of something leads to critical thinking is wrong. You have to have some standard of truth to measure those opinions against. This is not being provided in modern history books. A history book containing nothing but contradicting opinions about events would be useless.

That differs from my educational experience.

For instance I had a class in Utah history at the University of Utah. It was taught by Dean May, an Arrington disciple. Every other chapter of our reading was faithful scholarship while the alternate chapters were anti such as "Under the Prophet in Utah" by Frank Cannon. What a fascinating experience that was to learn Utah history from a reknowned LDS historian in that manner.

justme wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 11:23 am As one that is convinced that the president is mentally unstable, I see nothing wrong with this. Have you read his tweets today. Absolutely disgusting that this person is our president.

What a perfect example of missing the point completely, by 100%.

And seeing Trump as "mentally unstable"? What do you think of the leftists? That nonsense, and outright garbage is stability to you? Ah, that would explain it.
dc

justme wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 2:50 pm

Serragon wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 2:03 pm

justme wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2019, 12:34 pm We must have different views of what a textbook is and what should be in it. Do you not think that we should be presented with both views, and the opportunity to develop critical reasoning skills to distinguish between opposing views?

I personally read both cnn and foxnews everyday on purpose.

It is propaganda. Only one viewpoint is being referenced. It is nothing but leftist religious belief masquerading as fact.

But even if other viewpoints were represented, believing that listening to 2 different opinions of something leads to critical thinking is wrong. You have to have some standard of truth to measure those opinions against. This is not being provided in modern history books. A history book containing nothing but contradicting opinions about events would be useless.

That differs from my educational experience.

For instance I had a class in Utah history at the University of Utah. It was taught by Dean May, an Arrington disciple. Every other chapter of our reading was faithful scholarship while the alternate chapters were anti such as "Under the Prophet in Utah" by Frank Cannon. What a fascinating experience that was to learn Utah history from a reknowned LDS historian in that manner.

It doesn't matter if your prof was in Utah, a member in good standing of the church with Temple recommend, etc., if he had been indoctrinated into revisionist history then he may have contaminated you as the school children in the op may likely end up contaminated.
dc

The important question here might be: Why is a history textbook taking ANY position on events that happened less than three years ago?
It's bound to support someone's political agenda - neutrality doesn't actually exists with this sort of thing. And when a textbook's description of historical events seems uncontroversial, that's only because the event is far enough in the past that either everyone has reached a consensus on it (i.e. "Nazis are evil" is uncontroversial now, but not in 1933,) or the issue is simply too obscure for most modern Americans to have an opinion about (i.e. whether getting rid of bimetallism was a good idea or not).
You can't have a school that doesn't teach somebody's politics. And I think we all know whose agenda is being taught in America's public schools right now.
So if you don't want your children brainwashed, then reject the public schools.
Also, reject the idea of a history textbook. Attempting to tell the entirety of history through the mediation of a single author or committee is a fool's errand. If you want your kid to understand what happened, teach him to look at lots of different sources and authors. That should be especially easy for recent events where the internet exists to provide a new take on the issue every minute or so.