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Sirius wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2019, 10:45 am Mitt is no different than John Mcstain was. A sellout.

John McCain was clearly (to me) beholden to the globalists. I cannot say that about Mitt Romney with any confidence. Both have dropped the word "Constitution" to impress, but have demonstrated considerable disdain for it on many occasions.

This whole Trump Romney thread reminds me of Isaiah 5:20.

I did not and could never vote for Trump. I fully agree with everything Romney says about him.

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑April 21st, 2019, 7:11 am
Thanks, Utah voters. NOT.

You're welcome.

All sarcasm aside, what was my choice? I guess I could have left that blank. Having said that, I AM TOTALLY disgusted with Mitt's spouting lately. I am just ashamed and saddened. I can't seem to figure him out. Is he a wolf in sheep's clothes or or a sheep in wolf's clothes? Ha-ha where is Brlenox?

kittycat51 wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2019, 11:30 am

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑April 21st, 2019, 7:11 am
Thanks, Utah voters. NOT.

You're welcome.

All sarcasm aside, what was my choice? I guess I could have left that blank. Having said that, I AM TOTALLY disgusted with Mitt's spouting lately. I am just ashamed and saddened. I can't seem to figure him out. Is he a wolf in sheep's clothes or or a sheep in wolf's clothes? Ha-ha where is Brlenox?

Trump is so obviously a wolf in wolf's clothing. Mitt is a sheep in sheep's clothing. I totally agree with his "spouting". I'm just glad that Utah voters agree, regardless of what is posted here in this forum.

Fiannan wrote: ↑April 21st, 2019, 6:37 am You voters in Utah must really be proud of him.

Fiannan, you can't have such high expectations for us Utah voters. We voted Orin Hatch into office over and over again.

Vision wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2019, 1:11 pm

Fiannan wrote: ↑April 21st, 2019, 6:37 am You voters in Utah must really be proud of him.

Fiannan, you can't have such high expectations for us Utah voters. We voted Orin Hatch into office over and over again.

I realize over the years he may not have been perfect but on the scale of things one could say Hatch was akin to a gourmet meal while Romney is like a cheap gas station hot dog...one that is dried out...and tough.

I looks to me like Mitt Romney plans to buck Trump at every possible turn in order to make Trump look like a failure as Romney is moving to set himself up as the leader of the anti-Trump faction of the GOP, hoping to derail a second term by defeating Trump in the primary and set himself up as the 2020 "establishment" candidate for POTUS.

I'm afraid that Romney is just another Jeff Flake, who continually sniped at president Trump—not for betraying his campaign promises, but for trying to fulfill them, especially on immigration. It sure looks like Romney is going to push for amnesty like Flake did, which will play right into the globalists' hands.

RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, a niece of Mitt Romney, blasted Senator Romney on in January, saying "POTUS is attacked and obstructed by the MSM media and Democrats 24/7. For an incoming Republican freshman senator to attack Donald Trump as their first act feeds into what the Democrats and media want and is disappointing and unproductive." And Senator Rand Paul entered the fray against Romney, tweeting: "Like other Big Government Republicans who never liked Reagan, Mitt Romney wants to signal how virtuous he is in comparison to the President. Well, I’m most concerned and pleased with the actual conservative reform agenda @realDonaldTrump has achieved."

What Every Utah Voter Needs To Know About Mitt Romney
By Gregg Jackson
Feb 17, 2018

https://newswithviews.com/what-every-ut ... tt-romney/

Mitt Romney announced his candidacy for the United States Senate yesterday. Having covered him closely as a radio talk show host on WRKO in Boston while Mr. Romney was governor of Massachusetts, I know his record inside and out. Mr. Romney claims to be a social and fiscal conservative. But his actual record demonstrates that he is nothing more than Ted Kennedy in a Ronald Reagan costume. Utah voters deserve to know the documented truth about Mr. Romney. Here it is.

Mitt Romney, Fiscal and Social Liberal:
Illegally & unconstitutionally instituted same-sex “marriage” falsely claiming the Massachusetts Supreme Court “ordered him to.” Proof here and here
Signed $50 tax-subsidized abortions into law (2 years AFTER his fake “pro-life conversion.” Proof here
Boosted funding for homosexual “education” starting in kindergarten. Proof here
Opposes a ban on homosexual scoutmasters. Proof here
Promised the homosexual Republican “Log Cabin Republicans” he wouldn’t oppose “gay marriage” in return for their endorsement. Proof here
Instituted a quasi-socialist healthcare plan endorsed by Hillary Clinton, Teddy Kennedy and Planned Parenthood that destroyed the Massachusetts’ economy. Proof here and here.
Increased taxes and fees by close to a billion dollars which destroyed the Massachusetts’ economy and opposed the Bush Tax Cuts. Proof here
Voted # 8 RINO by Human Events. Proof here.
Passed over Republican lawyers for three quarters of the 36 judicial vacancies he faced and nominated 2 open homosexuals. Proof here
Criticized Joint Chief’s of Staff, Peter Pace for saying that homosexual acts were “immoral.” Proof here
Supports passage of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act which would force churches and other religious organizations to hire homosexuals and transvestites or face criminal fines and prosecution. Proof here
Romney supported McCain-Feingold “campaign finance reform”, McCain-Kennedy “comprehensive immigration reform” (i.e. amnesty), and parts of the McCain-Lieberman “carbon cap and trade” bill and opposed the Bush Tax Cuts. Proof here

© 2018 Gregg Jackson – All Rights Reserved

lundbaek wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2019, 3:02 pm I looks to me like Mitt Romney plans to buck Trump at every possible turn in order to make Trump look like a failure as Romney is moving to set himself up as the leader of the anti-Trump faction of the GOP, hoping to derail a second term by defeating Trump in the primary and set himself up as the 2020 "establishment" candidate for POTUS.

I'm afraid that Romney is just another Jeff Flake, who continually sniped at president Trump—not for betraying his campaign promises, but for trying to fulfill them, especially on immigration. It sure looks like Romney is going to push for amnesty like Flake did, which will play right into the globalists' hands.

RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, a niece of Mitt Romney, blasted Senator Romney on in January, saying "POTUS is attacked and obstructed by the MSM media and Democrats 24/7. For an incoming Republican freshman senator to attack Donald Trump as their first act feeds into what the Democrats and media want and is disappointing and unproductive." And Senator Rand Paul entered the fray against Romney, tweeting: "Like other Big Government Republicans who never liked Reagan, Mitt Romney wants to signal how virtuous he is in comparison to the President. Well, I’m most concerned and pleased with the actual conservative reform agenda @realDonaldTrump has achieved."

It would be wonderful if this did work out. Somebody from the republican side needs to take on Trump to prevent a second term. Some may think that Romney will be too old but he is younger than Trump.

It is sad when the president main hope for a second term is so that the statue of limitations for his crimes runs out while he is still a sitting president to avoid future prosecutions like Mueller brings up.

It would be wonderful if this did work out. Somebody from the republican side needs to take on Trump to prevent a second term. Some may think that Romney will be too old but he is younger than Trump.

Nancy Pelosi and AOC would love your post.

I thought this would be a good thread for this by Woods -

https://tomwoods.com/we-have-reached-pe ... 3uvMjOCzzc

We Have Reached Peak Orwell
23rd April 2019 Tom Woods

I thought I was already as jaded as one could be.

But the media’s response to the Mueller report takes things to a whole new level of Orwell.

The exact opposite of what the media has been saying for two years turned out to be the case, and yet the media is claiming vindication. This is derangement on a level that hardly seems possible.

As Glenn Greenwald put it on Twitter: “Everyone knows the scandal’s key was the claim that Trump election-conspired with Russia and that he and his key associates were Russian assets. The Mueller Report found none of that. The media’s belief that they can avoid embarrassment by feigning vindication is embarrassing.”

Michael Tracey, also on the left, added: “Dems are gonna move to impeach Trump based on an FBI/CIA conspiracy theory that was just resolutely debunked by the elder statesman prosecutor who they’d previously declared would prove the conspiracy theory. Whenever you think we’ve hit rock bottom, the bottom always falls out.”

More: “There’s nothing inherently ‘progressive’ or ‘left-wing’ about impeaching the President on the basis of a discredited, militaristic FBI/CIA conspiracy theory that has effectively criminalized foreign policy heterodoxies, bred xenophobic paranoia, and stifled dissent.”

But like their neoconservative cousins [like Romney], the left-liberal establishment loves the intelligence agencies, and the regime itself.

Even our supposedly chic cultural icons in the entertainment world trip over each other to come to the defense of organizations they once pilloried.

I feel sorry for the youngsters these days. Imagine having all your heroes in entertainment and culture saying, “Obey the Establishment and hold the opinions they authorize.” Not a lot of edginess there.

How will the history books — and here I am thinking specifically of the textbooks that will be used to educate students — treat Russiagate? Will they frankly acknowledge that the establishment peddled a fact-free conspiracy theory for two years? Will they admit that the Mueller report dismantled every major plank of that theory?

I find it hard to believe. Textbooks are always pro-establishment.

I fear we are entering into a new phase of propaganda and misinformation — and what’s so bizarre about it is that it’s happening at a time when the truth has never been more readily available.

We’ll get through this together, dear readers.

Fiannan wrote: ↑April 21st, 2019, 6:37 am You voters in Utah must really be proud of him.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019 ... er-report/

I just love the comments at the bottom of the article.

There's a whole section devoted to your first statement!

Mark Blankschen Deep State Watch • 5 days ago
I will bet his religion is very proud of him....