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Imagine you could live forever. On what date would you have to throw up your hands and say Christianity isn't true due to the fact that Jesus Christ hadn't returned?

I wouldn't have one. I would assume the Second Coming is a figurative event that was misinterpreted to be a literal one. That perhaps it occurs upon any one individual's death or only in another realm or whatever.

Not saying this is what I think the case is.

Um. It's going to be literal, so I wouldn't give up until it happened?

Yes, absolutely it's a literal event. It will herald the end of this eternity.

I don't have a "drop dead" date. I know it will happen, and the timing is up to God.

The 48th of Septober.

My drop dead date for "7000 years existence" (since Adam) is probably 2300. At that time I'd have to say that the scripture was wrong or I misunderstood it.

This is a great question that will be the theme of the great sifting and test for Christians. I think too many Christians have been so convinced that it would be in 2000, then the mayan calendar, the blood moons, eclipse, etc. Persecution will heat up, trials will hit home, and Christians as a whole will give up on the second coming.

As for me, my testimony isnt based on my timeline of the second coming, so I can't see myself throwing my hands up and abandoning my beliefs for a perceived delay, but then again none of us are too strong to fall.

She would be beautiful, dressed nicely,

Oh wait... Sorry.

Robin Hood wrote: ↑April 21st, 2019, 1:48 pm The 48th of Septober.

That's mine, too.

JohnnyL wrote: ↑April 21st, 2019, 6:16 pm She would be beautiful, dressed nicely,

Oh wait... Sorry.

Reminds me of a line in the movie Miss Congeniality when one of the beauty pageant contestants is asked about her favorite date...her answer is "April 25...not too hot, not too cold. All you need is a light jacket." Lol.

On the flip side I would be extremely surprised if it wasn't a couple hundred years off at earliest. But I don't expect to be around either way to notice.

we haven't even gotten here yet (and your looking for a drop dead date?)

3 Nephi 7

15 And it came to pass that Nephi—having been visited by angels and also the voice of the Lord, therefore having seen angels, and being eye-witness, and having had power given unto him that he might know concerning the ministry of Christ, and also being eye-witness to their quick return from righteousness unto their wickedness and abominations;

16 Therefore, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts and the blindness of their minds—went forth among them in that same year, and began to testify, boldly, repentance and remission of sins through faith on the Lord Jesus Christ.

17 And he did minister many things unto them; and all of them cannot be written, and a part of them would not suffice, therefore they are not written in this book. And Nephi did minister with power and with great authority.

18 And it came to pass that they were angry with him, even because he had greater power than they, for it were not possible that they could disbelieve his words, for so great was his faith on the Lord Jesus Christ that angels did minister unto him daily.

19 And in the name of Jesus did he cast out devils and unclean spirits; and even his brother did he raise from the dead, after he had been stoned and suffered death by the people.

20 And the people saw it, and did witness of it, and were angry with him because of his power; and he did also do many more miracles, in the sight of the people, in the name of Jesus.

21 And it came to pass that the thirty and first year did pass away, and there were but few who were converted unto the Lord; but as many as were converted did truly signify unto the people that they had been visited by the power and Spirit of God, which was in Jesus Christ, in whom they believed.

22 And as many as had devils cast out from them, and were healed of their sicknesses and their infirmities, did truly manifest unto the people that they had been wrought upon by the Spirit of God, and had been healed; and they did show forth signs also and did do some miracles among the people.

23 Thus passed away the thirty and second year also. And Nephi did cry unto the people in the commencement of the thirty and third year; and he did preach unto them repentance and remission of sins.


Korihor's drop dead date;

Alma 30

58 And it came to pass that they were all convinced of the wickedness of Korihor; therefore they were all converted again unto the Lord; and this put an end to the iniquity after the manner of Korihor. And Korihor did go about from house to house, begging food for his support.

I don't have a date at which I would give up on Christianity, but sometimes I really wish I would have died three years ago.

brianj wrote: ↑April 25th, 2019, 2:54 pm I don't have a date at which I would give up on Christianity, but sometimes I really wish I would have died three years ago.

I know the feeling. But don't worry, he may yet be impeached and if not he could still lose in 2020.

justme wrote: ↑April 25th, 2019, 3:00 pm

brianj wrote: ↑April 25th, 2019, 2:54 pm I don't have a date at which I would give up on Christianity, but sometimes I really wish I would have died three years ago.

I know the feeling. But don't worry, he may yet be impeached and if not he could still lose in 2020.

I'm still thankful that someone as devoted to wickedness as the Democratic candidate lost. And politics have nothing to do with why I feel the way I do, but thanks for treating my emotions so cheaply.

endlessismyname wrote: ↑April 20th, 2019, 4:52 pm Imagine you could live forever. On what date would you have to throw up your hands and say Christianity isn't true due to the fact that Jesus Christ hadn't returned?

Just because Christ won’t come back to save everyone as the Jews wanted saving, doesn’t mean Christianity isn’t true.

• “And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.”-Luke 17:20-21