Thinker wrote: ↑April 9th, 2019, 7:41 pm
So how do you figure out truth?
As we were discussing in another thread, both common sense and intuition (the Spirit) are needed. Logic/reason ought to be common sense, but that’s another story.
Let’s focus on the Spirit. When you get the chills, a burning in your bosom - exactly what does it mean?? Does it mean, “I need to get up walk 23 steps, into my car, to the airport, and fly like mad to romance in Fiji”?? Ok more realistic: does such sensation mean whatever I’m thinking when I feel this is indicative of what I need to do? What if I feel the Spirit watching Star Wars - does that mean I should begin Jedi training academy, (as Shadow dreams
)?
The Spirit reminds me a bit of this miraculous world and universe - I often feel the Spirit as I gaze up into a star-filled sky, or feel the peace just being surrounded by nature. I don’t add extra meaning as if the Spirit is telling me I need to be an astronaut or live out of a tent. I think the Spirit is often a profound sense of gratitude and love... though sometimes it can be guidance - but that seems a bit different.
How do you distinguish between what you want or fear, and spiritual guidance? I have experienced warnings when I wasn’t thinking about it. Maybe the Spirit works in spiritual guidance, more when you allow for some sense of stillness but also trust in God. Also, I imagine a good sense of self-awareness is part of entering into the kingdom of God within.
Nice post - How do I - (or more importantly - "does one") figure out truth. : when I was born I happened to have an anomaly that very frequently caused me excruciating pain. Since my parents and the Drs did not recognize this, i grew up with this - of course ever increasing physical and mental tension to try to survive and act appropriately in this world. Ha! (insert your own set of trials and hardships here - most of us have them!)
I knew each time I tensed up, physically or mentally, that I was hardening myself against the very help/guidance that could save me. (how could I have known that??? dunno, but I was blessed with it.) Anyway, at 27 (Saturn return. get it?
)I got a fix for that prob so was still left with a phantom limb type pain hitting my brain but realized I had to find a way to winnow back down through all that tension/blockage I had put on. I found an experimental psychologist at Purdue who taught me something (that Freud had actually played with a bit in his later years) which i have come to call focused abreaction - focus on a tension or feeling, let it abreact, then jacobson relax to get catharsis - yada yada and so on - like the layers of an onion I became more and more free so I could thus "hear" better and better. I knew I could obviously hear pretty well when I was young and in the midst of all that pain and yet was together enough to know that i was screwing myself and somehow had to wait until I could escape that and work back.
So how do I know? -I have come to understand that it is simple - if it helps, if it works!. It doesn't matter if I am being told one thing and the most well meaning person is telling me another (and yes, of course, we have all found this out the hard way!!!
) I need to go off into the desert of my mind and follow the ideas given me and lo, dam it, they work.
"both common sense and intuition (the Spirit) are needed. Logic/reason ought to be common sense, but that’s another story.
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Yes, but I oft think, in frustration, that most folks down here do not have that, for one reason or another. They have not heard, or listened to that tiny voice, and followed it to where it lead. Have you tried Fiji? Don't know, there might be a teacher there for you in this pretend scene,.
But I have found that when I get the urge to travel to say Europe, and follow that urge with a bit of planning, i seem to both burn out that urge, but also discover strengths and awarenesses in myself that I was not aware of - right here. And go to work on them!
In one sense it's all about the step of clearing out the fog so you can hear clearly. This is a process and likely different for each soul down here, though I also find there are many commonalities - a desire to improve one's condition.
You can certainly get very valid messages from Star Wars, if only "pay attention to where you are, what you are doing!". Your guides/helpers are cheap in a very good way - they will use ANYTHING to get you to pause for a second to see things differently. Read that again!!!
Fears, particularly fear of being destroyed, or fear of ceasing to exist, are of course biggies. Because of the tools i picked up when I was 30, to me, they are just another bump in the road, albeit huge bumps - like pain. exactly. go into it, let it be for a minute, it will disolve, and relax and cathart. I remember something that that chauvinist Frank Herbert wrote in Dune - a litany of the bene Geserit : "I must not fear... I will let it pas through me..." from the minds of babes. But I, to, am cheap - I will take truth wherever I find it - IF it bears out!!!
I try to be in constant communication with my guides and God. Prayer. Asking always for understanding. I am far from perfect, but if we can pause here and reflect on the Word of Wisdom, I find I do MUCH better if I am not filling my body with sugars and carbs. And heavy foods. edit and caffeine. I suspect once one becomes more clear one can partake a bit of that and do okay, but would probably realize that things (the workings of the mind/spirit/God ) just work better without them.
How to distinguish between... : easy! If you go into - allow it to its fullness and it does not disolve, then look more closely at it, become more one with it. If you feel stronger with the Is, go for it! Fears, though they seem totally real, will simply disolve if you give them their fullness. However, be careful not to indulge - that is to only partially give something it's fullness. Here I feel it is helpful and advisable to have someone you can talk to about your process, who is free enough to let you explore, but who can sense (not because of their own fears, but because of their awareness - almost telepath-ability). I shopped for a psychiatrist who was a bit of a free spirit, and used Celexa occasionally to assure I did not harm myself while digging through the onion - I sure had tons of suicidal feelings wishes when I was little, so, of course I had to work back down through all that and face them again.
You may not need all that. Each has a different path - set of things they came here to learn.
"Also, I imagine a good sense of self-awareness is part of entering into the kingdom of God within."
Yep. I think I was blessed with that and entered here with that, though, like most, lost it quickly.
My Peace to you profound, on this difficult path.
I need to rest for a bit - be back later.
