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I found this letter on another forum and I'm wondering what you guys think? This apostle will be leaving the church and lays out why in his letter. http://confessionofanapostle.ch
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Yyyyyyyyeah, bogus.

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Just read through it. Not a chance it's legit, but I suppose the timing would indicate a departure around General Conference? Regardless, I don't believe it.

Hypothetically If something like this happened, who wants to place bets on how many members leave the church?

I'll throw 4 million out there.

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I believe it when I see it.

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They take way too long to get to their point - obvious the creators are trying to lure people in. The crux of it all is after halfway point:
With all the sincerity and humility I can muster, let me reveal it to you now. I have learned unequivocally, that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is not true!
The Book of Mormon was not translated from Gold Plates using a so-called Urim and Thummim, or even a Peep Stone in a hat for that matter. The revelations found in the Mormon scripture, the Doctrine and Covenants, are not true. They represent a framework of well-known religious concepts, ideas, and other convenient superstitions of the times which can all be branded as fraudulent, as they were knowingly borrowed, plagiarized, or invented by Joseph Smith and associates.
Is God, as the creator, actually relegating those who claim to be gay--since birth--to a life of complete celibacy? If “man is that he might have joy,” then where is the joy of man to be found for such individuals? Did God make them this way? What do science and biology have to say about this issue?
Hmm, does this sound like something one of these octogenarians or older would write? Hard to know who it is, though - they covered their tracks as far as domain registration. They had the means for an https certificate as well. Looks like doings of a younger writer working for some anti- group who doesn't mind spending some money to damage the church.
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Is God, as the creator, actually relegating those who claim to be gay--since birth--to a life of complete celibacy? If “man is that he might have joy,” then where is the joy of man to be found for such individuals? Did God make them this way? What do science and biology have to say about this issue?
Hmm, does this sound like something one of these octogenarians or older would write? They covered their tracks as far as domain registration, but they didn't spring for the https certificate - maybe they couldn't afford.
it does actually..
https://confessionofanapostle.org

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nvr wrote: March 28th, 2019, 7:20 pm They take way too long to get to their point - obvious the creators are trying to lure people in. The crux of it all is after halfway point:
With all the sincerity and humility I can muster, let me reveal it to you now. I have learned unequivocally, that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is not true!
The Book of Mormon was not translated from Gold Plates using a so-called Urim and Thummim, or even a Peep Stone in a hat for that matter. The revelations found in the Mormon scripture, the Doctrine and Covenants, are not true. They represent a framework of well-known religious concepts, ideas, and other convenient superstitions of the times which can all be branded as fraudulent, as they were knowingly borrowed, plagiarized, or invented by Joseph Smith and associates.
Is God, as the creator, actually relegating those who claim to be gay--since birth--to a life of complete celibacy? If “man is that he might have joy,” then where is the joy of man to be found for such individuals? Did God make them this way? What do science and biology have to say about this issue?
Hmm, does this sound like something one of these octogenarians or older would write? They covered their tracks as far as domain registration, but they didn't spring for the https certificate - maybe they couldn't afford.
Was totally about to point out the certificate 😆

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actually, I just noticed if I added an Https they do have one - so someone (group?) is spending money for this - edited my post to reflect. what a waste of their time!

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What is this about?

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gkearney wrote: March 28th, 2019, 7:39 pm What is this about?
A supposed anonymous member of the Q12 declares the church isn’t true. Basically. At some point he will supposedly resign . Not sure why someone would take the time to write this up for fun lol

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Stahura wrote: March 28th, 2019, 7:43 pm
gkearney wrote: March 28th, 2019, 7:39 pm What is this about?
A supposed anonymous member of the Q12 declares the church isn’t true. Basically. At some point he will supposedly resign . Not sure why someone would take the time to write this up for fun lol
Well it wouldn’t be the first time that has happened.

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Any speculation on who?

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Looks like something "Thinker of Thoughts" would come up with.

The first half is probably true, before he gets around to throwing God out.

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Where is the link?

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justme wrote: March 28th, 2019, 7:50 pm Any speculation on who?
Non of them.

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gkearney wrote: March 28th, 2019, 7:54 pm Where is the link?
Link is in the op. you don't see it?

http://confessionofanapostle.org

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As soon as I looked at the resource list and noticed all the crap that was in there I knew this was beyond fake.

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nvr wrote: March 28th, 2019, 7:20 pm
With all the sincerity and humility I can muster, let me reveal it to you now. I have learned unequivocally, that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is not true!
Hmm, does this sound like something one of these octogenarians or older would write? Hard to know who it is, though - they covered their tracks as far as domain registration. They had the means for an https certificate as well. Looks like doings of a younger writer working for some anti- group who doesn't mind spending some money to damage the church.
Although it's conceivable that an apostle, writing for himself and without the benefit of editors and proofreaders, would make some of the grammatical errors in this piece, I would think that he would at the very least get the capitalization of the name of the church he represents correct. In the signature block at the very, very least, if not throughout the body of the letter.

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Yeah, this is like a new level of anti material... what makes me sad about it more than anything is that it is trying to get people to not believe in God or Christ at all. Anti mormon is one thing if you are trying to convince someone what you are believing is wrong, but believe in God. It is another to totally try to lure people in with a lot of questions and then tell them that God doesn't exist.

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Fake

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Let me tell you why this is 100% bogus: Because this fake letter basically says he wanted to know everything about all the challenges about church history. He basically named everything. He mentioned authors etc. This letter is to have members of the church research all this junk and hopes he can bring down all the weak down to hell with him. The whole thing is typed up and then signs it with "anonymous for now". I got to the 4 pages and I was done. Yeah. Totally Fake.

And another thing. This new guy who posted this by the name Toast who barely made 2 posts.... who are you anyway? Makes me wonder what was your first post about
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Totally false; no apostle using the term "the jig is up" Anyone who believes this . ..well . . .good luck to them.

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LdsMarco wrote: March 28th, 2019, 9:13 pm Let me tell you why this is 100% bogus: Because this fake letter basically says he wanted to know everything about all the challenges about church history. He basically named everything. He mentioned authors etc. This letter is to have members of the church research all this junk and hopes he can bring down all the weak down to hell with him. The whole thing is typed up and then signs it with "anonymous for now". I got to the 4 pages and I was done. Yeah. Totally Fake.

And another thing. This new guy who posted this by the name Toast who barely made 2 posts.... who are you anyway? Makes me wonder what was your first post about
If you click on a posters name, you can click on another link with their posts listed.

Both of his/her first two posts are found on this thread.

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Toast wrote: March 28th, 2019, 7:26 pm
Is God, as the creator, actually relegating those who claim to be gay--since birth--to a life of complete celibacy? If “man is that he might have joy,” then where is the joy of man to be found for such individuals? Did God make them this way? What do science and biology have to say about this issue?
Hmm, does this sound like something one of these octogenarians or older would write? They covered their tracks as far as domain registration, but they didn't spring for the https certificate - maybe they couldn't afford.
it does actually..
https://confessionofanapostle.org
Hi Toast, you are new here. If this sounded at all plausible, I would let it go, but it is obviously bogus.

Do you intend to participate in the forum in a constructive way, or are you just looking for free clicks on your hoax?

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Sub-standard fan fiction.

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