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Re: Rome: "A hinge point in the history of the church"

Posted: March 21st, 2019, 10:12 am
by I AM
the "false prophet" could very well be the Pope,
the "another beast" in verse 11.

Revelation 13
John sees fierce-looking beasts that represent degenerate earthly kingdoms controlled by Satan—The devil works miracles and deceives men.

1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
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"The beast is described as having two horns (verse 11) of a lamb but speakes with the voice of the dragon.
The lamb is a well- known symbol of the Savior and so John is telling us that the person is not only a religious figure but a Christian figure or leader.
The two horns mean that the man, or his kingdom, has two areas or rule.
The kingdom that immediately comes to mind is the only Christian religion or kingdom that has two areas of rule; the Roman Catholic Church."

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and "causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. "

The letters inscribed in the Pope's metre are
Vicarius Filii Dei, reduced to its Roman numerals, sums up to 666

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Re: Rome: "A hinge point in the history of the church"

Posted: March 21st, 2019, 1:39 pm
by Davka
Interesting thoughts. Thank you, simpleton and I AM. I appreciate your perspectives.

I am always open to new interpretations than what I have previously thought.

Re: Rome: "A hinge point in the history of the church"

Posted: March 26th, 2019, 7:21 am
by GeeR
If the Mormon Church joins the ecumenical movement of the Catholic Church then it proves that it is just another harlot daughter to the great whore described in the Book of Revelation. If this event turns out to be case then it follows that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is no longer the only true church on the face of the earth and church laity has been hoodwinked by the clergy into believing the lie that the prophet cannot lead the church astray!
If the above prediction happens it suggests that the thesis of the whistle-blower named “one who is watching” (his internet name) is likely true. His thesis is that the restoration of Christ church is future, not past. So there is no need to give up our hope.
https://onewhoiswatching.wordpress.com/

Re: Rome: "A hinge point in the history of the church"

Posted: March 26th, 2019, 8:14 am
by Fiannan
Glad we don't cut up deceased prophets of the Church and send them to local wards like the Catholics do with some people they make saints.

http://catholicvoicemedia.blogspot.com/ ... ellis.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-13522546

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... Italy.html

Re: Rome: "A hinge point in the history of the church"

Posted: March 26th, 2019, 11:37 am
by Fiannan

Re: Rome: "A hinge point in the history of the church"

Posted: March 28th, 2019, 9:57 am
by I AM
I AM wrote: March 21st, 2019, 10:04 am more P.R. with Babylon.
shaking hands with ....
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900 ... hotos.html

The church of the Lamb of God, is NOT the Mormon church.

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purple
do you know what religion uses purple ?

church of the devil, the whore, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS,
"that great and abominable church, which is the mother of abominations, whose founder is the devil."

read carefully the scriptures below.

(*** my notes)

1 Nephi 14

19 And I looked and beheld a man, and he was dressed in a white robe.

20 And the angel said unto me: Behold one of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. *** John

21 Behold, he shall see and write the remainder of these things; yea, and also many things which have been.

22 And he shall also write concerning the end of the world. *** in the book of Revelation by John

23 Wherefore, the things which he shall write are just and true; and behold they are written in the book which thou beheld proceeding out of the mouth of the Jew; and at the time they proceeded out of the mouth of the Jew, or, at the time the book proceeded out of the mouth of the Jew, the things which were written were plain and pure, and most precious and easy to the understanding of all men.
*** the Bible is the book that proceeded out of the mouth of the Jew;
which "plain and pure, and most precious" things were removed by the Catholic church.

24 And behold, the things which this apostle of the Lamb shall write are many things which thou hast seen; and behold, the remainder shalt thou see. *** apostle John

25 But the things which thou shalt see hereafter thou shalt not write; for the Lord God hath ordained the apostle of the Lamb of God that he should write them. *** again John

26 And also others who have been, to them hath he shown all things, and they have written them; and they are sealed up to come forth in their purity, according to the truth which is in the Lamb, in the own due time of the Lord, unto the house of Israel.

27 And I, Nephi, heard and bear record, that the name of the apostle of the Lamb was John, according to the word of the angel.



The Revelation
of St John the Divine
Chapter 17

John is shown that Babylon the great, the mother of harlots and abominations, has become established throughout the earth.

1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.


(The great CITY of Rome (located in Italy) has been long known as the, "City of the Seven Hills" or the "City of Seven hills". An excerpt from A Woman Rides the Beast by Dave Hunt (p. 67, emphases ours)-- )
(Only one city has for more than 2000 years been known as the city on seven hills. That city is Rome. The Catholic Encyclopedia states: "It is within the city of Rome, called the city of seven hills, that the entire area of Vatican State proper is now confined.")

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
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I guess more P.R. (pubic relations) with Babylon
and shaking hands with evil started long ago.

Worldly philosophies seem to have taken root in the decisions made by church leaders, and are growing ever more compatible with the teachings of the church.

I'm afraid we've been trying to "fit in " with Babylon just a little too much.
and have been shaking a few too many evil hands.

George W. Bush - Thomas S. Monson freemason masonic patriarchal grip handshake

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Re: Rome: "A hinge point in the history of the church"

Posted: March 28th, 2019, 10:44 am
by gkearney
I AM wrote: March 28th, 2019, 9:57 amGeorge W. Bush - Thomas S. Monson freemason masonic patriarchal grip handshake

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OK I'm a Mason and I can tell you that this is NOT one of the Masonic grips. Further if you look closely you will see it is not the patriarchal grip either. If you're all that curious as to just what the Masonic grips are I suggest you go get a copy of Duncans Rituals of Freemasonry and look them up for yourselves. Duncans Rituals of Freemasonry can be found online here: https://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/dun/index.htm

Re: Rome: "A hinge point in the history of the church"

Posted: March 28th, 2019, 11:14 am
by I AM
gkearney wrote: March 28th, 2019, 10:44 am
I AM wrote: March 28th, 2019, 9:57 amGeorge W. Bush - Thomas S. Monson freemason masonic patriarchal grip handshake

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OK I'm a Mason and I can tell you that this is NOT one of the Masonic grips. Further if you look closely you will see it is not the patriarchal grip either. If you're all that curious as to just what the Masonic grips are I suggest you go get a copy of Duncans Rituals of Freemasonry and look them up for yourselves. Duncans Rituals of Freemasonry can be found online here: https://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/dun/index.htm
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doesn't even matter if it is or not.
these secret handshakes with evil people show our allegiance and participation in Babylon.

Re: Rome: "A hinge point in the history of the church"

Posted: March 28th, 2019, 12:22 pm
by gkearney
I AM wrote: March 28th, 2019, 11:14 am
gkearney wrote: March 28th, 2019, 10:44 am
I AM wrote: March 28th, 2019, 9:57 amGeorge W. Bush - Thomas S. Monson freemason masonic patriarchal grip handshake

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OK I'm a Mason and I can tell you that this is NOT one of the Masonic grips. Further if you look closely you will see it is not the patriarchal grip either. If you're all that curious as to just what the Masonic grips are I suggest you go get a copy of Duncans Rituals of Freemasonry and look them up for yourselves. Duncans Rituals of Freemasonry can be found online here: https://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/dun/index.htm
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doesn't even matter if it is or not.
these secret handshakes with evil people show our allegiance and participation in Babylon.
Or it could just be a handshake.

Re: Rome: "A hinge point in the history of the church"

Posted: March 28th, 2019, 12:52 pm
by ajax
The catholic church is not the GAAC...lol.

Re: Rome: "A hinge point in the history of the church"

Posted: April 15th, 2019, 12:39 pm
by Primary Outcast
Is it just coincidence that about 1 month after the rome temple is dedicated, the Notre Dame cathedral in Paris burns to the ground?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-notr ... SKCN1RR1UO