I am a Mormon - Marketing Campaign

[Dusty52]

I don't get why one minute the word Mormon is at the centre of a multi-million advertising campaign and the next minute the whole concept is ditched, like it was wrong!
For me it draws into question where these ideas are coming from, its definitely not through the lords mouth piece here on earth, its from the church's marketing executives! But where do they fit into all of this?

[Zathura]

I don't get why one minute the word Mormon is at the centre of a multi-million advertising campaign and the next minute the whole concept is ditched, like it was wrong!
For me it draws into question where these ideas are coming from, its definitely not through the lords mouth piece here on earth, its from the church's marketing executives! But where do they fit into all of this?

They all have certain things they believed loooong before they received their callings. They all have well-intentioned opinions.(from time to time they try to tell us this, but people don’t like to hear it I guess?)

There’s a %100 chance that if I was the President in 50 years , I would make changes that at my current age I believe needs to be done (unless someone did it first)

[Dusty52]

I don't get why one minute the word Mormon is at the centre of a multi-million advertising campaign and the next minute the whole concept is ditched, like it was wrong!
For me it draws into question where these ideas are coming from, its definitely not through the lords mouth piece here on earth, its from the church's marketing executives! But where do they fit into all of this?

They all have certain things they believed loooong before they received their callings. They all have well-intentioned opinions.(from time to time they try to tell us this, but people don’t like to hear it I guess?)

There’s a %100 chance that if I was the President in 50 years , I would make changes that at my current age I believe needs to be done (unless someone did it first)

But that tells me that when that campaign was running Nelson wasn't fully behind it and didn't support it? Why wasn't his voice listened to in the discussions before hand?
The councils of the church and all that

[Zathura]

I don't get why one minute the word Mormon is at the centre of a multi-million advertising campaign and the next minute the whole concept is ditched, like it was wrong!
For me it draws into question where these ideas are coming from, its definitely not through the lords mouth piece here on earth, its from the church's marketing executives! But where do they fit into all of this?

They all have certain things they believed loooong before they received their callings. They all have well-intentioned opinions.(from time to time they try to tell us this, but people don’t like to hear it I guess?)

There’s a %100 chance that if I was the President in 50 years , I would make changes that at my current age I believe needs to be done (unless someone did it first)

But that tells me that when that campaign was running Nelson wasn't fully behind it and didn't support it? Why wasn't his voice listened to in the discussions before hand?
The councils of the church and all that

You know.. I dont know.

If I were you, I wouldn’t care about the church and it’s meetings, it’s policies. Seek experiences with God. Seek God , he will touch your soul with the power of the Holy Ghost in such a way that things like this will never really matter much to you again. All that should matter, all that will matter is your relationship with him and following the Spirit that influences you in ways you didn’t think possible before

[Dusty52]

I don't get why one minute the word Mormon is at the centre of a multi-million advertising campaign and the next minute the whole concept is ditched, like it was wrong!
For me it draws into question where these ideas are coming from, its definitely not through the lords mouth piece here on earth, its from the church's marketing executives! But where do they fit into all of this?

They all have certain things they believed loooong before they received their callings. They all have well-intentioned opinions.(from time to time they try to tell us this, but people don’t like to hear it I guess?)

There’s a %100 chance that if I was the President in 50 years , I would make changes that at my current age I believe needs to be done (unless someone did it first)

But that tells me that when that campaign was running Nelson wasn't fully behind it and didn't support it? Why wasn't his voice listened to in the discussions before hand?
The councils of the church and all that

You know.. I dont know.

If I were you, I wouldn’t care about the church and it’s meetings, it’s policies. Seek experiences with God. Seek God , he will touch your soul with the power of the Holy Ghost in such a way that things like this will never really matter much to you again. All that should matter, all that will matter is your relationship with him and following the Spirit that influences you in ways you didn’t think possible before

I can no longer try and do that, I've tried for most of my life, for me it doesn't work
all I'm left with is this religion and its beliefs etc
I wish I could

[marc]

I can no longer try and do that, I've tried for most of my life, for me it doesn't work
all I'm left with is this religion and its beliefs etc
I wish I could

What has stopped you? Have you believed all along that you cannot do so without first going through church leaders? Have you thrown out the baby (meaning Jesus) with the bathwater (policies, traditions, etc of the church)? Or have you ever believed Jesus' own sayings? Have you exercised faith in men all that time or have you ever tried to exercise faith in God alone? You care just enough to post all these topics. Let that tiny sliver work in you, but focus it all on Jesus. He WILL multiply it in you if you just give Him the chance. I know this. You are worth it.

[David13]

It's either a marketing gimmick or idea, or a personal fetish.

It reminds me of Bush the Elder (older) in the White House. "I don't want broccoli on the menu!" Why? What's wrong with broccoli? Nothing, just some personal thing he had with broccoli.

Or it could be some path along a "politically correct" plan they have. To try to make Mormons "fit it" more, fit into the "current, modern day" milieu.

I can tell you, if indeed God was offended by the word Mormon, we would all know it by now.
dc

[Robin Hood]

I don't get why one minute the word Mormon is at the centre of a multi-million advertising campaign and the next minute the whole concept is ditched, like it was wrong!
For me it draws into question where these ideas are coming from, its definitely not through the lords mouth piece here on earth, its from the church's marketing executives! But where do they fit into all of this?

I think you make a good point.

[Robin Hood]

I don't get why one minute the word Mormon is at the centre of a multi-million advertising campaign and the next minute the whole concept is ditched, like it was wrong!
For me it draws into question where these ideas are coming from, its definitely not through the lords mouth piece here on earth, its from the church's marketing executives! But where do they fit into all of this?

They all have well-intentioned opinions.(from time to time they try to tell us this, but people don’t like to hear it I guess?)

Reminds me of the difference between Catholics and Mormons.
Catholics are taught that the Pope is infallible, but they don't believe it.
Mormons are taught that the President is not infallible, but they don't believe it.

[h_p]

For whatever reason (and there are probably many), we members of the church think the Brethren all march in lockstep with each other because--obviously--they all receive the exact same revelation, so they're like some kind of hive mind or something. And when things like this happen, our world view falls to pieces.

Maybe that's a good thing.

[Robin Hood]

They all have certain things they believed loooong before they received their callings. They all have well-intentioned opinions.(from time to time they try to tell us this, but people don’t like to hear it I guess?)

There’s a %100 chance that if I was the President in 50 years , I would make changes that at my current age I believe needs to be done (unless someone did it first)

But that tells me that when that campaign was running Nelson wasn't fully behind it and didn't support it? Why wasn't his voice listened to in the discussions before hand?
The councils of the church and all that

You know.. I dont know.

If I were you, I wouldn’t care about the church and it’s meetings, it’s policies. Seek experiences with God. Seek God , he will touch your soul with the power of the Holy Ghost in such a way that things like this will never really matter much to you again. All that should matter, all that will matter is your relationship with him and following the Spirit that influences you in ways you didn’t think possible before

I can no longer try and do that, I've tried for most of my life, for me it doesn't work
all I'm left with is this religion and its beliefs etc
I wish I could

Stop trying and just be open to it.
For many years I tried to force the issue. I wanted God to dance to my tune, do this for me, do that for me, give me a testimony of whatever etc. Didn't work.
"Thy will be done" is the key. Just be open with him, acknowledge that he knows what you need better than you do, and tell him that's just fine (and mean it). Sincerely tell him that whatever he does in your life, large or small, profound or mundane, it is absolutely ok with you.
Then, stand back and prepare to have your socks blown off!

[Jamescm]

For whatever reason (and there are probably many), we members of the church think the Brethren all march in lockstep with each other because--obviously--they all receive the exact same revelation, so they're like some kind of hive mind or something. And when things like this happen, our world view falls to pieces.

THIS!

I've been in the Sunday School presidency for our ward for some time now. I can state the following:

- We seek the guidance of the Holy Ghost in all of our calling-related dealings. His influence is very real, and we've had exceptional degrees of success beyond anything we could expect by simply pondering with our own understanding and knowledge of the people in our ward.
- We very often come with the same ideas or thoughts to address a circumstance without prior collaboration. This, however, is not always the case. Someones one or two of us has a different or, once in a while, even a dissenting opinion. Sometimes this gently changes after mutual prayer, sometimes it doesn't. As counselors, our job is to collaborate with the Sunday School president, but he is still the persident and makes the call. We honor and accept that, as he honors and honestly considers our counsel.
- Despite all of our success, promptings, and seeking the Lord's guidance through the Holy Ghost, not everything always works out perfectly. We are still mortal and still imperfect in our seeking Him, understanding Him, and implementing His word. We are also left, from time to time, to work things out on our own.

I can only suppose that working in the First Presidency or the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles is a lot like that, but with a lot more voices, and each voice is representing the interests and concerns of large portions of the entire worldwide Church and its various legal entanglements with governments and businesses, and the ideas and opinions of hundreds of millions or even billions of people both in and out of the Church all arrayed to think this or that about anything and everything they do.

If the "I'm a Mormon!" campaign brought so much as one person honestly and steadfastly to the Gospel of Jesus Christ without sacrificing anyone on the petty basis that it is dumb, cheesy, or "incorrect" and who would have otherwise joined or remained without the campaign, then it was worth pulling off. I'm really not that concerned about it.

[Original_Intent]

Just remember, the church is a means to an end. Seek the goal, ultimately all a church is is a group of relatively like-minded seekers who are working together for a common purpose.

[harakim]

But that tells me that when that campaign was running Nelson wasn't fully behind it and didn't support it? Why wasn't his voice listened to in the discussions before hand?
The councils of the church and all that

You know.. I dont know.

If I were you, I wouldn’t care about the church and it’s meetings, it’s policies. Seek experiences with God. Seek God , he will touch your soul with the power of the Holy Ghost in such a way that things like this will never really matter much to you again. All that should matter, all that will matter is your relationship with him and following the Spirit that influences you in ways you didn’t think possible before

I can no longer try and do that, I've tried for most of my life, for me it doesn't work
all I'm left with is this religion and its beliefs etc
I wish I could

Stop trying and just be open to it.
For many years I tried to force the issue. I wanted God to dance to my tune, do this for me, do that for me, give me a testimony of whatever etc. Didn't work.
"Thy will be done" is the key. Just be open with him, acknowledge that he knows what you need better than you do, and tell him that's just fine (and mean it). Sincerely tell him that whatever he does in your life, large or small, profound or mundane, it is absolutely ok with you.
Then, stand back and prepare to have your socks blown off!

This is true. Terrifying, but true...

[endlessQuestions]

They all have certain things they believed loooong before they received their callings. They all have well-intentioned opinions.(from time to time they try to tell us this, but people don’t like to hear it I guess?)

There’s a %100 chance that if I was the President in 50 years , I would make changes that at my current age I believe needs to be done (unless someone did it first)

But that tells me that when that campaign was running Nelson wasn't fully behind it and didn't support it? Why wasn't his voice listened to in the discussions before hand?
The councils of the church and all that

You know.. I dont know.

If I were you, I wouldn’t care about the church and it’s meetings, it’s policies. Seek experiences with God. Seek God , he will touch your soul with the power of the Holy Ghost in such a way that things like this will never really matter much to you again. All that should matter, all that will matter is your relationship with him and following the Spirit that influences you in ways you didn’t think possible before

I can no longer try and do that, I've tried for most of my life, for me it doesn't work
all I'm left with is this religion and its beliefs etc
I wish I could

Then why are you here? Maybe we can help.

[drtanner]

Nephi and his brothers didn’t get it right the first time either but they accomplished the command. Does that mean he received false information or was wrong in revelation by not stopping them from going forward with the plan they had counseled together about? Sometimes the lord lets us figure things out for our own experience.

Let’s also not forget the goal here, to bring souls to Christ. How many times have we botched our own attempts at this? Thank heavens for the atonement and the ability to grow in grace. (At the same time let’s not discount the silver lining and good that comes from the effort) His love and mercy is truly amazing.