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Brodyozz2307
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I am a student at BYU-I taking a New Testament class. This week was kind of cool for me as a whole, not just in this class did I read and learn something new about Christ and his time on earth and how he taught, but I also was able to learn a lot from the people around me and myself and how I treat those people around me. In the assigned reading it was a common thing for Christ to be gravitated to the type of people I didn't expect him to be around. Although in my mind I always thought he was teaching to his followers and the people that were always doing good as much as possible(which he did often as well), but I learned that he taught the sinners of the Bible and troubled people and those that needed help and were dirty both spiritually and physically. I love what he says to those that question him when he asks if someone who is well goes to a doctor, or if someone who is sick does. you can read about these things in Matthew 11 and other accounts of the stories where he healed the boy with palsy and ate with the sinners and publicans, just learning about how he held himself and saw all of the people around him and gave us the best example possible of how to love everyone and share the gospel.
This really impacted me and has changed the way I see people I don't necessarily gravitate towards, I usually try to stay in a crowd that shares the same beliefs and thought process as me, but after reading this I tried to dedicate at least the week ahead of me to seeing the need in others and how I can help them by being a friend or by being involved with everyone.
what's something you learned this week?
This really impacted me and has changed the way I see people I don't necessarily gravitate towards, I usually try to stay in a crowd that shares the same beliefs and thought process as me, but after reading this I tried to dedicate at least the week ahead of me to seeing the need in others and how I can help them by being a friend or by being involved with everyone.
what's something you learned this week?
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This week I learned that no matter what you do, baby chicks will mess up their water supply by either bringing bedding into it, or bringing it out into their bedding. We should reflect on our lives and, when praying for blessings, seek ways that we're getting bedding into our water and stop it.
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You have to do what is right. It doesn't really matter what church leaders are saying or doing.
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EmmaLee
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What I learned in Relief Society yesterday, is that the Church is racist (now, today; not just in the past); the Book of Mormon is racist; and that we (the Church) should be more welcoming to gays (her words). After further elaboration, she made clear that she meant those currently engaging in gay sex (and those who blaspheme the sanctity of marriage, by calling themselves "married"), not just those who may suffer from same-sex attraction, but do not act on it. And by "welcoming", she verified that she meant as full members in good standing with recommends, callings, etc. She's the wife of the 1st counselor in our bishopric, if that matters (which it doesn't to me in the least, but it does to some types of Mormons) - and the entire RS presidency was sitting right there listening (didn't say a word). So that was my 'take away' from Church yesterday - that it is just fine to preach in our Relief Society that the Church and our scriptures are racist, and that sexual acts between two men or two women are not sinful. Yet, if I don't go to RS any particular Sunday, I get chastised by various women telling me I should be there - that I'm missing out on the wonderful words of the prophets (which I can easily read at home any time, should I want to), and the interaction of the Lord's faithful women (if this is an example of a faithful woman of the Lord, then, no thanks).
By the way, Christ didn't "hang out" and party with sinners - he told them to repent. D&C 6:9 and John 8:11 are so passe these days.
By the way, Christ didn't "hang out" and party with sinners - he told them to repent. D&C 6:9 and John 8:11 are so passe these days.
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ElizaRSkousen
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UghEmmaLee wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 1:03 pm What I learned in Relief Society yesterday, is that the Church is racist (now, today; not just in the past); the Book of Mormon is racist; and that we (the Church) should be more welcoming to gays (her words). After further elaboration, she made clear that she meant those currently engaging in gay sex (and those who blaspheme the sanctity of marriage, by calling themselves "married"), not just those who may suffer from same-sex attraction, but do not act on it. And by "welcoming", she verified that she meant as full members in good standing with recommends, callings, etc. She's the wife of the 1st counselor in our bishopric, if that matters (which it doesn't to me in the least, but it does to some types of Mormons) - and the entire RS presidency was sitting right there listening (didn't say a word). So that was my 'take away' from Church yesterday - that it is just fine to preach in our Relief Society that the Church and our scriptures are racist, and that sexual acts between two men or two women are not sinful. Yet, if I don't go to RS any particular Sunday, I get chastised by various women telling me I should be there - that I'm missing out on the wonderful words of the prophets (which I can easily read at home any time, should I want to), and the interaction of the Lord's faithful women (if this is an example of a faithful woman of the Lord, then, no thanks).
By the way, Christ didn't "hang out" and party with sinners - he told them to repent. D&C 6:9 is so passe these days.
I’m glad I’m in primary lol
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If this offended you, why didn't you speak up? Not saying this to be critical, you have a lot of power with words in meetings like that. Stuff like that needs to be stamped out. It's up to us to do it.EmmaLee wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 1:03 pm What I learned in Relief Society yesterday, is that the Church is racist (now, today; not just in the past); the Book of Mormon is racist; and that we (the Church) should be more welcoming to gays (her words). After further elaboration, she made clear that she meant those currently engaging in gay sex (and those who blaspheme the sanctity of marriage, by calling themselves "married"), not just those who may suffer from same-sex attraction, but do not act on it. And by "welcoming", she verified that she meant as full members in good standing with recommends, callings, etc. She's the wife of the 1st counselor in our bishopric, if that matters (which it doesn't to me in the least, but it does to some types of Mormons) - and the entire RS presidency was sitting right there listening (didn't say a word). So that was my 'take away' from Church yesterday - that it is just fine to preach in our Relief Society that the Church and our scriptures are racist, and that sexual acts between two men or two women are not sinful. Yet, if I don't go to RS any particular Sunday, I get chastised by various women telling me I should be there - that I'm missing out on the wonderful words of the prophets (which I can easily read at home any time, should I want to), and the interaction of the Lord's faithful women (if this is an example of a faithful woman of the Lord, then, no thanks).
By the way, Christ didn't "hang out" and party with sinners - he told them to repent. D&C 6:9 and John 8:11 are so passe these days.
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The first counselors wife? I'm grateful for my wife lolElizaRSkousen wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 1:04 pmUghEmmaLee wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 1:03 pm What I learned in Relief Society yesterday, is that the Church is racist (now, today; not just in the past); the Book of Mormon is racist; and that we (the Church) should be more welcoming to gays (her words). After further elaboration, she made clear that she meant those currently engaging in gay sex (and those who blaspheme the sanctity of marriage, by calling themselves "married"), not just those who may suffer from same-sex attraction, but do not act on it. And by "welcoming", she verified that she meant as full members in good standing with recommends, callings, etc. She's the wife of the 1st counselor in our bishopric, if that matters (which it doesn't to me in the least, but it does to some types of Mormons) - and the entire RS presidency was sitting right there listening (didn't say a word). So that was my 'take away' from Church yesterday - that it is just fine to preach in our Relief Society that the Church and our scriptures are racist, and that sexual acts between two men or two women are not sinful. Yet, if I don't go to RS any particular Sunday, I get chastised by various women telling me I should be there - that I'm missing out on the wonderful words of the prophets (which I can easily read at home any time, should I want to), and the interaction of the Lord's faithful women (if this is an example of a faithful woman of the Lord, then, no thanks).
By the way, Christ didn't "hang out" and party with sinners - he told them to repent. D&C 6:9 is so passe these days.
I’m glad I’m in primary lol
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It's the worst. Baby chicks and bedding. Ours got everywhere. What kind of chicks?Jamescm wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 8:16 am This week I learned that no matter what you do, baby chicks will mess up their water supply by either bringing bedding into it, or bringing it out into their bedding. We should reflect on our lives and, when praying for blessings, seek ways that we're getting bedding into our water and stop it.
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EmmaLee
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Oh, I'm pretty much beyond being offended by anything I hear at church anymore. I shared this more to let some others who may think all is well, that all is not well.setyourselffree wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 1:13 pmIf this offended you, why didn't you speak up? Not saying this to be critical, you have a lot of power with words in meetings like that. Stuff like that needs to be stamped out. It's up to us to do it.EmmaLee wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 1:03 pm What I learned in Relief Society yesterday, is that the Church is racist (now, today; not just in the past); the Book of Mormon is racist; and that we (the Church) should be more welcoming to gays (her words). After further elaboration, she made clear that she meant those currently engaging in gay sex (and those who blaspheme the sanctity of marriage, by calling themselves "married"), not just those who may suffer from same-sex attraction, but do not act on it. And by "welcoming", she verified that she meant as full members in good standing with recommends, callings, etc. She's the wife of the 1st counselor in our bishopric, if that matters (which it doesn't to me in the least, but it does to some types of Mormons) - and the entire RS presidency was sitting right there listening (didn't say a word). So that was my 'take away' from Church yesterday - that it is just fine to preach in our Relief Society that the Church and our scriptures are racist, and that sexual acts between two men or two women are not sinful. Yet, if I don't go to RS any particular Sunday, I get chastised by various women telling me I should be there - that I'm missing out on the wonderful words of the prophets (which I can easily read at home any time, should I want to), and the interaction of the Lord's faithful women (if this is an example of a faithful woman of the Lord, then, no thanks).
By the way, Christ didn't "hang out" and party with sinners - he told them to repent. D&C 6:9 and John 8:11 are so passe these days.
Yeah, I've tried speaking up several times in RS (and SS) before - and with this same woman, too. It never ends well. She's the same one who attacked me on Facebook when I posted the Family Proclamation on my own page a couple years ago - no commentary by me, just the Proclamation. You wouldn't think that would cause another member of the Church to attack you, would you? But alas, you don't know this person. You see, it was the same day as that heinous 'women's march', where they were marching with those absurd pink hats on (which she did, with her young adult children marching along - hats and all) - and she took umbrage, stating that it was offensive to her that I would post, quote, "that sexist thing" the same day as the 'women's march'. I was on the back row, and I noticed a lot of women nodding their heads in agreement with her. It's mostly just fascinating to see the devolving going on right before us. Anyway, she has seen to it that I've been blackballed in our ward - my opinions, thoughts, comments mean nothing. Guess I could fight with her every Sunday (as she, like most leftists, immediately resorts to fighting) - that would be edifying for all, wouldn't it.
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I will be glad one day when certain aspects of Relief Society get overhauled, and I do have faith that will eventually happen. I get restless spending an hour listening to a sister read a talk from the Conference issue that I already read at home from my Ensign and also listened to on TV during the last Conference. I wish we could spend more time talking to each other and getting to know the other women in RS. We are a large group with a lot of new members who don't know each other very well.
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EmmaLee
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Yep! And this is the 3rd time he has been the 1st counselor in our bishopric since we've been in this ward (31 years). She and her husband are birds of a feather - both avid socialists, publicly supported the rapist-in-chief, BO, then the rapist's wife - and now, Bernie.Alaris wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 1:34 pmThe first counselors wife? I'm grateful for my wife lolElizaRSkousen wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 1:04 pmUghEmmaLee wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 1:03 pm What I learned in Relief Society yesterday, is that the Church is racist (now, today; not just in the past); the Book of Mormon is racist; and that we (the Church) should be more welcoming to gays (her words). After further elaboration, she made clear that she meant those currently engaging in gay sex (and those who blaspheme the sanctity of marriage, by calling themselves "married"), not just those who may suffer from same-sex attraction, but do not act on it. And by "welcoming", she verified that she meant as full members in good standing with recommends, callings, etc. She's the wife of the 1st counselor in our bishopric, if that matters (which it doesn't to me in the least, but it does to some types of Mormons) - and the entire RS presidency was sitting right there listening (didn't say a word). So that was my 'take away' from Church yesterday - that it is just fine to preach in our Relief Society that the Church and our scriptures are racist, and that sexual acts between two men or two women are not sinful. Yet, if I don't go to RS any particular Sunday, I get chastised by various women telling me I should be there - that I'm missing out on the wonderful words of the prophets (which I can easily read at home any time, should I want to), and the interaction of the Lord's faithful women (if this is an example of a faithful woman of the Lord, then, no thanks).
By the way, Christ didn't "hang out" and party with sinners - he told them to repent. D&C 6:9 is so passe these days.
I’m glad I’m in primary lol
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I guess that's easier to say than the mass-murderer-of-babies-in-chief! It's incredible any member of the Church of Jesus Christ can stand with a party that stands for the mass slaughter of children.EmmaLee wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 1:46 pmYep! And this is the 3rd time he has been the 1st counselor in our bishopric since we've been in this ward (31 years). She and her husband are birds of a feather - both avid socialists, publicly supported the rapist-in-chief, BO, then the rapist's wife - and now, Bernie.Alaris wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 1:34 pmThe first counselors wife? I'm grateful for my wife lolElizaRSkousen wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 1:04 pmUghEmmaLee wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 1:03 pm What I learned in Relief Society yesterday, is that the Church is racist (now, today; not just in the past); the Book of Mormon is racist; and that we (the Church) should be more welcoming to gays (her words). After further elaboration, she made clear that she meant those currently engaging in gay sex (and those who blaspheme the sanctity of marriage, by calling themselves "married"), not just those who may suffer from same-sex attraction, but do not act on it. And by "welcoming", she verified that she meant as full members in good standing with recommends, callings, etc. She's the wife of the 1st counselor in our bishopric, if that matters (which it doesn't to me in the least, but it does to some types of Mormons) - and the entire RS presidency was sitting right there listening (didn't say a word). So that was my 'take away' from Church yesterday - that it is just fine to preach in our Relief Society that the Church and our scriptures are racist, and that sexual acts between two men or two women are not sinful. Yet, if I don't go to RS any particular Sunday, I get chastised by various women telling me I should be there - that I'm missing out on the wonderful words of the prophets (which I can easily read at home any time, should I want to), and the interaction of the Lord's faithful women (if this is an example of a faithful woman of the Lord, then, no thanks).
By the way, Christ didn't "hang out" and party with sinners - he told them to repent. D&C 6:9 is so passe these days.
I’m glad I’m in primary lol
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Indeed, but, there are plenty. One of our previous Primary presidents (oh the irony...) marched with the Planned Parenthood flag in our town's Summerfest parade several years ago. The bishop (at the time) and his family were right next to us on the grass and saw her, cheered and waved at her. She was not released until they moved away a couple years later. All is not well.
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Yowsers. You live in Californiastan? We're not immune from that stuff in Idaho, but I hardly ever see it thank goodness. It's tough to know exactly how to handle types like that. Do you release them from their calling because of their beliefs? If you do they'll cry and whine and relish in the role of victim. On one hand, it would really bother me having someone like that in a leadership position. On the other hand, it seems harsh to exclude them from callings if they fulfill them righteously. But if I heard someone say the scriptures were racist, etc, I'd speak up. What exactly did she say? I'm curious now.EmmaLee wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 1:54 pmIndeed, but, there are plenty. One of our previous Primary presidents (oh the irony...) marched with the Planned Parenthood flag in our town's Summerfest parade several years ago. The bishop (at the time) and his family were right next to us on the grass and saw her, cheered and waved at her. She was not released until they moved away a couple years later. All is not well.
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Nope, we live in Iowa. But this woman and most in our ward are transplants from Utah. Our non-LDS neighbors are far more conservative/Christian than our ward members are, for the most part. It's really strange - Twilight Zone-ish. She started talking about the Hill Cumorah pageant, and how it's, quote, "a bunch of white guys killing a bunch of brown guys" - then she went on to say the Book of Mormon itself is racist (equating dark skin with wickedness, etc.), and how it's about time we had a brown apostle, but we should have more (doesn't the Lord pick the apostles? - rhetorical), etc. She herself is white as the driven snow, as is her husband - but they both suffer from an extreme case of liberal white guilt, as do all the liberals that I know.gangbusters wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 2:12 pmYowsers. You live in Californiastan? We're not immune from that stuff in Idaho, but I hardly ever see it thank goodness. It's tough to know exactly how to handle types like that. Do you release them from their calling because of their beliefs? If you do they'll cry and whine and relish in the role of victim. On one hand, it would really bother me having someone like that in a leadership position. On the other hand, it seems harsh to exclude them from callings if they fulfill them righteously. But if I heard someone say the scriptures were racist, etc, I'd speak up. What exactly did she say? I'm curious now.EmmaLee wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 1:54 pmIndeed, but, there are plenty. One of our previous Primary presidents (oh the irony...) marched with the Planned Parenthood flag in our town's Summerfest parade several years ago. The bishop (at the time) and his family were right next to us on the grass and saw her, cheered and waved at her. She was not released until they moved away a couple years later. All is not well.
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RIP Iowa SaintsEmmaLee wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 2:43 pmNope, we live in Iowa. But this woman and most in our ward are transplants from Utah. Our non-LDS neighbors are far more conservative/Christian than our ward members are, for the most part. It's really strange - Twilight Zone-ish. She started talking about the Hill Cumorah pageant, and how it's, quote, "a bunch of white guys killing a bunch of brown guys" - then she went on to say the Book of Mormon itself is racist (equating dark skin with wickedness, etc.), and how it's about time we had a brown apostle, but we should have more (doesn't the Lord pick the apostles? - rhetorical), etc. She herself is white as the driven snow, as is her husband - but they both suffer from an extreme case of liberal white guilt, as do all the liberals that I know.gangbusters wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 2:12 pmYowsers. You live in Californiastan? We're not immune from that stuff in Idaho, but I hardly ever see it thank goodness. It's tough to know exactly how to handle types like that. Do you release them from their calling because of their beliefs? If you do they'll cry and whine and relish in the role of victim. On one hand, it would really bother me having someone like that in a leadership position. On the other hand, it seems harsh to exclude them from callings if they fulfill them righteously. But if I heard someone say the scriptures were racist, etc, I'd speak up. What exactly did she say? I'm curious now.EmmaLee wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 1:54 pmIndeed, but, there are plenty. One of our previous Primary presidents (oh the irony...) marched with the Planned Parenthood flag in our town's Summerfest parade several years ago. The bishop (at the time) and his family were right next to us on the grass and saw her, cheered and waved at her. She was not released until they moved away a couple years later. All is not well.
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While putting together a puzzle with one of my kids, we had the entire side edge done - but it just wouldn’t fit until we realized it was backwards and wrong side. Once we fixed this, everything fell into place more easily.
There are multiple ways of looking at things. When it feels hopeless, it may not be circumstances as much as how you’re looking at it. When trying to piece things together that don’t fit, try thinking outside the box - or from a different angle - especially with reason harmonized with the Spirit.
There are multiple ways of looking at things. When it feels hopeless, it may not be circumstances as much as how you’re looking at it. When trying to piece things together that don’t fit, try thinking outside the box - or from a different angle - especially with reason harmonized with the Spirit.
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Spoken like a true bird brain.Jamescm wrote: ↑March 11th, 2019, 8:16 am This week I learned that no matter what you do, baby chicks will mess up their water supply by either bringing bedding into it, or bringing it out into their bedding. We should reflect on our lives and, when praying for blessings, seek ways that we're getting bedding into our water and stop it.
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Yeah, I learned that the doctrine of Christ apparently isn't as important to some of the Leadership in the Elder's Quorum as are the New changes in the church. Some leadership were more interested in us talking about come follow me and ministering than Seeking the Lord and the Lord's Doctrine. Because I quote "it's great and all, but I would like to hear more about [the changes in the church]. Please don't be like like, know the Doctrine of Christ really is the most important thing - as it is the only way to reach Eternal Life - as Christ and Nephi both stated.
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This week I learned something as a product of reading as well as talking to others outside of class and from a project in another class focusing on why there is conflict among people of different beliefs or views, it was interesting to see what other people were able to learn and to see how they view what it means to love thy neighbor and Christ. to me this means that if I am doing all I can to show love to others and help others see the best in life and the gospel that I am showing Christ that I love him.
The thing that I learned from others is that love means a lot of different things to different people, I think that a lot of people feel that showing christ like love is tying to help others show love the way they want them too instead of trying to understand how they are showing love to you. I learned that being offended by the way people act toward you is taught through a quote that says "sent first to understand then be understood" I feel that this is the best way that we can show love to both others and then to Christ is to work at seeing how others are trying to be good to you before trying to explain how they should be doing it in your eyes.
A question that I have, that stems from other courses and studying, is: Do you think that you become more offended/hurt by a belief of a neighbor or the topic of belief?
ex. does the idea that abortion offend people or does the fact that some people believe its a choice offend people?
The thing that I learned from others is that love means a lot of different things to different people, I think that a lot of people feel that showing christ like love is tying to help others show love the way they want them too instead of trying to understand how they are showing love to you. I learned that being offended by the way people act toward you is taught through a quote that says "sent first to understand then be understood" I feel that this is the best way that we can show love to both others and then to Christ is to work at seeing how others are trying to be good to you before trying to explain how they should be doing it in your eyes.
A question that I have, that stems from other courses and studying, is: Do you think that you become more offended/hurt by a belief of a neighbor or the topic of belief?
ex. does the idea that abortion offend people or does the fact that some people believe its a choice offend people?
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Hi Brody,Brodyozz2307 wrote: ↑March 24th, 2019, 11:26 pm This week I learned something as a product of reading as well as talking to others outside of class and from a project in another class focusing on why there is conflict among people of different beliefs or views, it was interesting to see what other people were able to learn and to see how they view what it means to love thy neighbor and Christ. to me this means that if I am doing all I can to show love to others and help others see the best in life and the gospel that I am showing Christ that I love him.
The thing that I learned from others is that love means a lot of different things to different people, I think that a lot of people feel that showing christ like love is tying to help others show love the way they want them too instead of trying to understand how they are showing love to you. I learned that being offended by the way people act toward you is taught through a quote that says "sent first to understand then be understood" I feel that this is the best way that we can show love to both others and then to Christ is to work at seeing how others are trying to be good to you before trying to explain how they should be doing it in your eyes.
A question that I have, that stems from other courses and studying, is: Do you think that you become more offended/hurt by a belief of a neighbor or the topic of belief?
ex. does the idea that abortion offend people or does the fact that some people believe its a choice offend people?
You bring up some good points and questions - thanks!
I believe that the greatest commandments and purpose in this life are to learn to love better and better. Empathy is a big part of love - and spirituality. Christ seemed to have empathy/understanding/compassion for everyone - even people he with whom he put up boundaries. He knew their hearts - and maybe in knowing his own - realized “in each of us is a bit of all of us.” This also allowed him to “forgive them for they know not what they do.”
Truth is often paradoxical or seemingly contradictory. Christ taught to love others, but also to love God and prioritize God (love based on truth) above all. One moment Christ was healing and blessing... and another he was chastising and whipping people out of the temple for using it to make money. Real love is not based on lies - despite what some would say in taking truth to be hard and saying it hurts their feelings. If you really care, you want the best for someone - even if it means telling them ugly truths.
E.g, Women who have abortions tend to live with regret and often fertility & other problems the rest of their lives. Another even uglier fact: abortion usually entails ripping the body of a child (developing human) limb from limb AFTER the child’s nervous system is intact (which is at 8 weeks gestation), which means the child can feel his body being killed in such a cruel way. Abortion is killing a child. That’s NOT ok in my book.
There are lots of values that can be debated. Some values are essential, like “Thou salt not kill.” Post-Modernism has infected many universities suggesting there are infinite valid interpretations thus none are better than the other. But that’s not true. The right to life must be established and agreed on - or else we can’t trust one another to get along. Right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness - no matter what age a child is.
One more note: Question everything. I appreciate a lot of truths from Jordan Peterson, but he’s not perfect & I have found some disagreements - though relatively few. There’s no perfect guru to follow. Just prioritize God.
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In my majority LDS neighborhood there is a facebook discussion going on about how they should hold a contest to determine which village (development phases in our housing community) will put up the most gay pride flags during gay pride week.
The commandment is that we love one another. There was no commandment that I advocate for, and actively promote immorality.
For the record I am a homophobe. Before anyone attacks me let's break that word down into its root meaning.
Homo (homosexuality)
Phobe (afraid of)
That word does not mean that I hate gay people as many have perverted it's meaning to be. it means that I am afraid of homosexuality. That is true. I am afraid of what is going to happen to our nation as people continue to push this destructive agenda on our nation. I am afraid of seeing children starving in the streets and people cannibalizing each other as happened in Lehi's Jerusalem.
The commandment is that we love one another. There was no commandment that I advocate for, and actively promote immorality.
For the record I am a homophobe. Before anyone attacks me let's break that word down into its root meaning.
Homo (homosexuality)
Phobe (afraid of)
That word does not mean that I hate gay people as many have perverted it's meaning to be. it means that I am afraid of homosexuality. That is true. I am afraid of what is going to happen to our nation as people continue to push this destructive agenda on our nation. I am afraid of seeing children starving in the streets and people cannibalizing each other as happened in Lehi's Jerusalem.
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Lizzy60
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Re: What I Learned
https://www.projectrainbowutah.org/sign ... xRRN2XNFIkmarkharr wrote: ↑March 25th, 2019, 11:38 am In my majority LDS neighborhood there is a facebook discussion going on about how they should hold a contest to determine which village (development phases in our housing community) will put up the most gay pride flags during gay pride week.
The commandment is that we love one another. There was no commandment that I advocate for, and actively promote immorality.
For the record I am a homophobe. Before anyone attacks me let's break that word down into its root meaning.
Homo (homosexuality)
Phobe (afraid of)
That word does not mean that I hate gay people as many have perverted it's meaning to be. it means that I am afraid of homosexuality. That is true. I am afraid of what is going to happen to our nation as people continue to push this destructive agenda on our nation. I am afraid of seeing children starving in the streets and people cannibalizing each other as happened in Lehi's Jerusalem.
Yep, this is a thing in Utah. No better way to flaunt your love for homosexual marriage than a rainbow flag! Count me as a homophobe too. I don't hate any gay person, but I fear the movement, and I fear for those, especially Mormons, who are telling young LGBT teens that gay sex is wonderful in a gay marriage, and God approves.
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Re: What I Learned
Is it love to allow an alcoholic to drink himself to death without intervention?
Is it love when the friends and family of Freddie Mercury encouraged him to continue in self destructive behavior until he contracted a fatal disease?
Was it love when friends and family allowed Kurt Cobain to develop a heroin addiction that likely contributed to the depression that caused him to kill himself?
I don't call that love.
Is it love when the friends and family of Freddie Mercury encouraged him to continue in self destructive behavior until he contracted a fatal disease?
Was it love when friends and family allowed Kurt Cobain to develop a heroin addiction that likely contributed to the depression that caused him to kill himself?
I don't call that love.
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Brodyozz2307
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Re: What I Learned
"15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death." through looking at the positive side of this passage I was taught We are all given the ability to trust is the lord and to learn as much about his word as possible so that when the great and terrible day comes, we are all joyful rather than fearful and we know that our family and loved ones are all safe within the gospel.
from this scripture we can see that there will be much fear and sadness on the surface from those that don't accept the fullness of the gospel and don't take into account that they have to bring their loved ones into the gospel in order to have a strong bond when it comes to the end, God gave us those opportunities to speak the word of god and to share the gospel and to make decisions to return to him someday.
I learned this week that there is a lot of things that we can't prepare for and we don't know about, BUT, I did figure out that we can feel comfortable and prepare by making sure we are loving the best we can and teaching those we are close to what we know and learning what they know and strengthening our testimony in faith and the gospel and the power of Heavenly Father.
Do you think that we have an ultimate goal to reach or are we able to do the absolute best we can and feel good about it and be saved?
16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death." through looking at the positive side of this passage I was taught We are all given the ability to trust is the lord and to learn as much about his word as possible so that when the great and terrible day comes, we are all joyful rather than fearful and we know that our family and loved ones are all safe within the gospel.
from this scripture we can see that there will be much fear and sadness on the surface from those that don't accept the fullness of the gospel and don't take into account that they have to bring their loved ones into the gospel in order to have a strong bond when it comes to the end, God gave us those opportunities to speak the word of god and to share the gospel and to make decisions to return to him someday.
I learned this week that there is a lot of things that we can't prepare for and we don't know about, BUT, I did figure out that we can feel comfortable and prepare by making sure we are loving the best we can and teaching those we are close to what we know and learning what they know and strengthening our testimony in faith and the gospel and the power of Heavenly Father.
Do you think that we have an ultimate goal to reach or are we able to do the absolute best we can and feel good about it and be saved?
