The Expense of Furnishings within Temples

[shadow]

The real Jesus told the rich to give EVERYTHING to the poor and follow Christ.

Have you given EVERYTHING to the poor? Ah, I didn't think so. But you dare condemn the church (not a person) for not doing something that you also haven't done? The point of the story in the Bible is to be willing to give everything. I think that's how you interpret it too.

The mandate of the church isn't to give everything away but to lead and guide people to Eternal Life. One of the restored blessings is having valid Temples. The heart of those in charge of building Temples is that they want them to be nice, after all, it's the House of The Lord. Similarly, Christ was accepting of the expensive oil which COULD HAVE been sold and the proceeds given to the poor. He rejected the complainers. I don't think He's changed.

For me, I can be like one of the 3 party's. I can be like the woman and give Christ the best of what I have. I can be like Christ and defend the gift which was given or I can be like Judas and complain that the gift could be sold and the proceeds used elsewhere.

[Thinker]

Shadow,
Church leaders demand TITHES from those who don’t have it to give, and withhold TITHES from the poor - breaking lower and higher commandments. They charge for temple worthine$$ - and they charge on income rather than as scriptural “increase” - thereby often creating poverty. I don’t demand tithes from others nor do I hide it and keep it from those for who it’s meant, nor do I charge for worthiness. So you comparing me to church leaders is absurd. You also don’t know me or what I do.

Tithing belongs to God. The greatest commandments are to love God by loving others. Christ taught that inasmuch as we care for those in need, it is as if we are loving Him. The law of tithing commands and surely Christ would have it that money gathered in the name of Jesus Christ - is for those in need. Despite keeping finances secret, Dallin Oaks admitted not a penny of tithes goes to those in need.

You are not the only one who seems apathetic about the poor being denied TITHES by which they were meant to receive help. It seems most people don’t care unless it affects them - that’s why this issue isn’t a huge focus for many. But there are almost 1,000,000,000!!! of our brothers and sisters who are starving - many will die TODAY - due to related complications. I cannot do it all - but I can stand up for those who have no voice and hope and pray that we all can do what we can as Christ asked.

[oneClimbs]

"Following the 33-minute meeting, President Nelson and President Ballard met with members of the media. "We had a most cordial, unforgettable experience. His Holiness, he was most gracious and warm and welcoming," said President Nelson. He continued, "What a sweet, wonderful man he is, and how fortunate the Catholic people are to have such a gracious, concerned, loving and capable leader." "

Stuff like this wierds me out. I think the whole world is realizing that the Pope is presiding over a global network of homosexual pedophile criminals and he may be quite sympathetic to them, if not part and parcel of the whole scheme. Really, how could he not be? And never mind the Pope's politics.

Now, as a Mormon, I am induced to follow the prophet's lead. If he feels things are on the up-and-up with the Pope, I should, too, right? I guess all that pedo stuff doesn't matter as much as the Pope is such a wonderful leader. I suppose the Pope will give a similar report of the Mormon prophet. It's like all my concerns can be retired now, if I just follow the prophet.

I believe the current pope to be the most corrupt ever. Having said that even Christ dined with sinners. The Catholic Church is only second in world domination next to Islam having 1.285 billion professed members. I believe it is good will on President Nelson's part to praise their leader. (If the pope went after President Nelson and said mean things, I would be up in arms.) Should he be condemning the Pope and standing for truth and righteousness? Maybe? But maybe also it is not the time and place to be doing so. There may come a time in the future where the 1st Presidency and 12 may be so bold as to speak with the tongues of destroying angels. But the time is not yet come. In God's own due time I believe it will though.

The Catholic Church has a lot of problems but so do we, I had a first counselor that was a convicted pedophile and was not on the sex offender registry. He tricked a little girl he home taught to sneaking into their family casita to try on outfits while he took perverted pictures telling her it was a "scavenger hunt". He did this knowing their mom was going to the airport to get the father who was returning from surgery. In this moment of stress for the family, he decided to do this. There are wolves among the sheep, there always have been.

The Catholic Church is an OLD organization and I doubt any of this stuff is new. Maybe they don't know what to do about it, maybe there are so many of them it would destroy the church to call them all out. Just playing a little devil's advocate but there IS a lot of great and abominable stuff going on. They have indeed tried to cover it up.

I'm not sure how much it helps to throw them under the bus when building a kind relationship might be the means of inspiring some positive change in the organization. Think of Trump and Kim Jong Un, it's good to see kind conversation happening. Once you crush a people and their leader, you become their enemy and what good does that do?

[righteousrepublic]

D&C 110:2
2 We saw the Lord standing upon the breastwork of the pulpit, before us; and under his feet was a paved work of pure gold, in color like amber.

Doctrine and Covenants 137:4
4 I saw the beautiful streets of that kingdom, which had the appearance of being paved with gold.


Let it be known that "everything" we think we own, belongs to Christ. He created the earth and the people on it. Anything you can think of on this earth is his.

! Nephi 17:36,39
36 Behold, the Lord hath created the earth that it should be inhabited; and he hath created his children that they should possess it.
39 He ruleth high in the heavens, for it is his throne, and this earth is his footstool.

Helaman 12:7
7 O how great is the nothingness of the children of men; yea, even they are less than the dust of the earth.

Christ created and owns all the materials used to make A-bombs, nuclear warheads, submarines and missiles, all the materials to make tanks, guns and ammo, nuclear warplanes, anything and everything geared to annihilate mankind.

He also owns the forests, beautiful foliage, lakes, rivers and streams and meadows. He owns the deer, the antelope and bear, etc. He owns the trees that provide the paper used to print money, he owns all the gold, silver and other precious metals used to make coinage. He owns everything used to make automobiles, motorcycles and boats. He owns everything used to build the homes we live in.
So it's time to be grateful, rather than condemning, is it not?

So, if Christ wants opulent temples to walk in, this is what he is going to get, even if the floors are carpeted instead of paved gold. After all, he owns everything, every thing.