Why did we once pay janitors to clean chapels and now we don't?
We should go to church to worship not to clean!
Every Member is a Janitor!
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Lizzy60
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endlessQuestions
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Wait a second, didn't you say you were leaving? <sigh>. Oh well, welcome back.
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Lizzy60
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Yes we did. That's why I posted the thread above. Dusty can read our opinions to his heart's content, and we can save our breath.
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Weird, huh? And it used to be that there were no paved parking lots at church and now there are. Things change. It used to be that you weren't able to type or participate in the world wide web, and now you can. Mind blowing, right?
Paid janitors used to go to church to clean but you claim we should go to church and worship and NOT clean. You're a janitor hater.
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I spend about 2 maybe 3 of the 8766 hours in my year helping as part of a larger team to clean (tidy up really) the place which is paid for and the lights and AC are kept on with my tithes. The place where my children come and we worship as a family. I can tell you those 2-3 hours are nothing compared to the hundreds of hours I spend cleaning my own home and I mean CLEANING, doing yard work, etc.
Vacuuming a few hallways once, maybe twice per year is HARDLEY a sacrifice. If that is what we are complaining about then our lives are far too easy, comfortable, and privileged which means God has likely blessed us more than we deserve and instead of true gratitude and a willingness to give back, we cry about the amount of time it takes to watch a SINGLE movie while we apparently have plenty of time to give 100s of our hours to movies, entertainment, travel, video games, etc.
I have absolutely zero sympathies for anyone complaining about helping to tidy up a chapel.
Worship isn't just sitting in a pew in your Sunday best and listening to someone preach at you, worship IS your LIFE, it is the way in which you approach everything you do. Consider the following:
"One understands oneself to be addressed [by God] through events ... A person replies through the speech of his life; he answers with his actions. Events in daily life can be interpreted as a dialogue with God." - Ian Barbour, Myths, Models, and Paradigms, 55.
Vacuuming a few hallways once, maybe twice per year is HARDLEY a sacrifice. If that is what we are complaining about then our lives are far too easy, comfortable, and privileged which means God has likely blessed us more than we deserve and instead of true gratitude and a willingness to give back, we cry about the amount of time it takes to watch a SINGLE movie while we apparently have plenty of time to give 100s of our hours to movies, entertainment, travel, video games, etc.
I have absolutely zero sympathies for anyone complaining about helping to tidy up a chapel.
Worship isn't just sitting in a pew in your Sunday best and listening to someone preach at you, worship IS your LIFE, it is the way in which you approach everything you do. Consider the following:
"One understands oneself to be addressed [by God] through events ... A person replies through the speech of his life; he answers with his actions. Events in daily life can be interpreted as a dialogue with God." - Ian Barbour, Myths, Models, and Paradigms, 55.
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On a side note, someone had the nerve to ask me to offer a closing prayer in class. I had to get up out of my seat while everyone else got to sit there and I actually had to think of words to say. Nobody else had to say anything so I had to do all of the work.
Why should these burdens be thrown about randomly to all the members? Why can there be a calling where an official person does all the praying? I’m in the elders quorum presidency, I’m busy enough as it is.
There goes 40 seconds of my life I’ll never get back, 40 seconds where I could have done something really meaningful.
Why should these burdens be thrown about randomly to all the members? Why can there be a calling where an official person does all the praying? I’m in the elders quorum presidency, I’m busy enough as it is.
There goes 40 seconds of my life I’ll never get back, 40 seconds where I could have done something really meaningful.
