Which prophets would agree with this?

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FattyArBeltBuckle
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Any supposed negative caused by an interracial marriage is complete nonsense.
The CDC and The American Journal of Public Health have research papers that dismiss this claim. Conclusions of research found that violence and volatility of relationships had correlation with interracial couples. For example:
The risk of victimization was greater for spouses in interracial than in intraracial marriages

wargames83
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Thinker wrote: January 20th, 2019, 2:11 pm
I AM wrote: January 20th, 2019, 12:15 am https://www.moronichannel.org/entertain ... btq-youth/

Mormon comedy star Stacey Harkey comes out as gay hoping to stop teen suicide
I hadn’t realized Stacey was using his fame to encourage harmful behavior.
That’s so sad and pathetic.
Such manipulative lies.
Pedophilia is a sexual disorder like homosexuality. But if he said the same thing as a pedophile, he wouldn’t be accepted. It is NOT something one is born with. Suggesting we are born to rape or do things that hurt ourselves and others is evil - and an attempt to deceive regarding what the war in heaven and earth are about: free agency.

We are not born to hurt ourselves.
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He came to encourage people to not hurt themselves

We are not born to go against your own anatomy and reproductive system. The anus is not an entrance but an exit only. Anal sex involves risks of anal fissures, anal cancer, colon rupture and bacterial infection. Has he, and others promoting such harmful behavior, considered that maybe as research shows, the homosexual lifestyle is what makes people suicidal? Obviously no - they are too busy playing the victim-mentality card.
Um, what? He said nothing encouraging anybody to have sex, much less a certain kind of sex. The fact that you would read that into it says far more about you than him.

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My son is 7 foot tall (Caucasian) and married a 5 foot tall Chinese woman (adopted out of China when she was 2). It's been a year now and there hasn't been a single negative experience according to them. They're temple sealed, active, hold callings, etc. I just don't see the negative. Perhaps there are more powerful resistances between other races, but the White-Chinese intermarriage doesn't seem to be frowned upon. In this day and age when society is accepting just about everything under the sun, the same society doesn't blink an eye at inter-racial marriage like they used to.

I think that this is an interesting and ironic positive result of the descent of the world into deeper and deeper sin. At least for now, they also generally don't blink an eye at us Mormons. Even in my relatively short lifespan, I see much less anti-Mormon sentiment than I did as a missionary or earlier. When you're ready to accept sodomy, men going into women's bathrooms, transgender-ism, pedophilia, etc. etc....who cares about the garment-wearing Mormon guy next door? That seems to be where we are now.

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What this person is proposing is to not have careless sex....the interracial part is just an added problem for a mostly homogeneous society. The US is a big melting pot, so not quite apples to apples. I agree with not having careless sex with visitors....but the question posed here seems to be about interracial marriage. I am appalled at the number of people here speaking against it. Shame on all of you. I am married in the temple to a latina that I met here in the USA in my singles ward. She is a returned missionary. We have three beautiful, wonderful children. I would not trade my happy marriage or family life for anything in the world. To hell with any of you on here who would insinuate that our situation is somehow in error or less than ideal because of what the hell people thought in the Old Testament. Again.....a completely homogeneous society....not comparable. Or because of a racist comment made by a former President of the church during a more racist and unenlightened and more homogeneous era. Grow the hell up. Why dont we just keep living the law of Moses while we are at it!?

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thestock wrote: April 9th, 2019, 6:41 am What this person is proposing is to not have careless sex....the interracial part is just an added problem for a mostly homogeneous society. The US is a big melting pot, so not quite apples to apples. I agree with not having careless sex with visitors....but the question posed here seems to be about interracial marriage. I am appalled at the number of people here speaking against it. Shame on all of you. I am married in the temple to a latina that I met here in the USA in my singles ward. She is a returned missionary. We have three beautiful, wonderful children. I would not trade my happy marriage or family life for anything in the world. To hell with any of you on here who would insinuate that our situation is somehow in error or less than ideal because of what the hell people thought in the Old Testament. Again.....a completely homogeneous society....not comparable. Or because of a racist comment made by a former President of the church during a more racist and unenlightened and more homogeneous era. Grow the hell up. Why dont we just keep living the law of Moses while we are at it!?
Same bro! My Latina wife and I have had the most incredible spiritual experiences together , it’s silly that anybody would suggest that God disapproves of Our marriage because her skin is Different. Traditions and philosophies of man. The issue is cultures. People from different cultures can have a hard time if they aren’t accustomed to each other’s culture. People from entirely different religions can have a hard time. Even then it’s only a possibility , and it’s got nothing to do with skin color.

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wargames83 wrote: April 9th, 2019, 5:55 am
Thinker wrote: January 20th, 2019, 2:11 pm
I AM wrote: January 20th, 2019, 12:15 am https://www.moronichannel.org/entertain ... btq-youth/

Mormon comedy star Stacey Harkey comes out as gay hoping to stop teen suicide
I hadn’t realized Stacey was using his fame to encourage harmful behavior.
That’s so sad and pathetic.
Such manipulative lies.
Pedophilia is a sexual disorder like homosexuality. But if he said the same thing as a pedophile, he wouldn’t be accepted. It is NOT something one is born with. Suggesting we are born to rape or do things that hurt ourselves and others is evil - and an attempt to deceive regarding what the war in heaven and earth are about: free agency.

We are not born to hurt ourselves.
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He came to encourage people to not hurt themselves

We are not born to go against your own anatomy and reproductive system. The anus is not an entrance but an exit only. Anal sex involves risks of anal fissures, anal cancer, colon rupture and bacterial infection. Has he, and others promoting such harmful behavior, considered that maybe as research shows, the homosexual lifestyle is what makes people suicidal? Obviously no - they are too busy playing the victim-mentality card.
Um, what? He said nothing encouraging anybody to have sex, much less a certain kind of sex. The fact that you would read that into it says far more about you than him.
He is using his fame to be an example of homosexuality - ignoring the fact that statistically, homosexual behavior is harmful (high rates of STDS, HIV/AIDs, mental illness and anal sex risks - especially men).

It seems like too often some use the entertainment industry to make ignorant, un-thought-out political statements. And homosexuality is getting into a lot of media - so we don’t watch it anymore.

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Interracial marriage is not wrong or evil, but it presents unique challenges. It is probably much like marriage between different social classes. My wife is my own race, but she grew up in a large family that was country-focused and where the father spent most of his time driving trucks or doing other blue-collar work. I grew up in a smaller family, and my father made a lot of money doing computer-related work. Finances haven't been a problem because all four of our parents were poor handlers of money, so we learned from that on our own. We did, however, have a lot of disagreements and issues about many little things we took for granted in terms of when and how to take free time, what to expect our kids to do and what we should be doing with them, and so forth. Socially and politically we are pretty much on the very same page, but it still took some work. I'm grateful we share the commonalities that we do, because it's the important stuff that we have in common.

When I was younger, I dreamed of marrying a Japanese girl. What I didn't realize growing up were the deep differences between the vast majority of Japanese and other Asian people and what I've grown up to expect, seek, and desire. In contrast to (real) Americans, Japanese have an extremely different view of government, society, the self, economics, liberty, the environment, religion, spirituality, and so on. Even Church members in Japan have a much greater expectation of government to handle problems and have no reservation against socialism to fuel that expected government responsibility. Less so in the Church there, but the Japanese in general are also more of a mind that one is "guilty until proven innocent", "religion is spooky and sinister", and "large families are irresponsible and inconvenient". If this was who I married, overcoming those differences may have been very difficult.

Using only statistical observation and without inherently supposing this of any black-skinned individual, but similar challenges may exist there. Even on LDS-focused dating sites back in the day, the profile of black women tended to reflect what I'd expect from black people generally in America-supportive of Obama's ideas and policies, desire for racial reparations, and a fondness for liberal media and entertainment. Despite sharing the belief that Jesus is the Christ and that Joseph Smith was a prophet, that can be some hard water to cross. It doesn't make it wrong to try, but it was helpful council to me despite there once having been a day my only thought would have been "The church teaches not to marry black people, it must be a racist organization!"

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