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Re: Foreordained Love

Posted: January 25th, 2019, 10:12 pm
by LadyT
I don't know that I believe in soul mates. I think there are several people who would or could be good mates for people.

I know that my third child was sent to me. I was told that I knew her and loved her before this life.

Re: Foreordained Love

Posted: January 25th, 2019, 10:30 pm
by kirtland r.m.
I will not discount what soul mate believers say on this thread. I have seen lot's in my life, and if there are some, even among strong active members of the church, they are few and far between. I wish it were otherwise. Between now and the final judgement, their will be lot's of shakeups among families depending upon the faithfulness of each soul. It will be interesting how the Lord will make all things right to the faithful and repentant.

Re: Foreordained Love

Posted: January 26th, 2019, 5:25 pm
by brianj
I made a comment two weeks ago, just before a second date with someone who became a special woman. The date ended up lasting eight hours! I don't believe there is one special soul mate for each of us, but that we can become soul mates.

I do believe that many of us had special relationships in the premortal existence that we hoped to continue here, but that doesn't make for a soul mate.

Re: Foreordained Love

Posted: January 26th, 2019, 11:34 pm
by Rwp
I agree with kirtland r.m. I won't discount anyone else's experience. I have never had the impression me and my husband knew each other before. However, I received very strong promptings that we would marry.

It was February 2009. It was my Senior year of high school and I was getting ready to go to the sweethearts dance with my boyfriend at the time. I was sitting on my best friends bedroom floor in front of a mirror putting on my makeup while she got ready in the bathroom.
I had this strong impression that wasn't mine. "This relationship you have with your boyfriend is nice but you're going to marry _____ (my husband's name)." I remember it so clearly because my husband is my best friends older brother who had returned from his mission almost a year earlier. And I was sitting in that best friends bedroom. I was looking in the mirror at the time and my face was crestfallen. I couldn't believe such an "immature" thought had come to my mind. I pushed it aside. I hadn't even talked to my now-husband more than saying "hi" a few times.

Well, my boyfriend and I broke up within a month. Some untimely high school drama took place. I spent more time with my best friend. I kept my eye on her brother and observed silently. He read his scriptures faithfully. He was actively asking girls on dates in pursuit of a wife. He loved his family. Heck, I loved his family.

Anyway, it's a really long story. There were a lot of promptings I received that let me know he was the one. It's just interesting the first one I received was that I would marry him.

I don't think that specifies we were soul mates. I do think we were likely friends though.

Re: Foreordained Love

Posted: January 27th, 2019, 12:48 pm
by SwissMrs&Pitchfire
Interesting how bad we are at owning our truths.

I cannot any longer say "I think" because I know.

We're both way too "hard to get along with" and way to "screwed up" for anybody else. We knew before we met and it was unlike anything else before and not because we didn't meet a quadrillion people before or date etc... If I could transmit knowledge from my head into other people's you would all know as well.

Being as introspective as I am, I have modeled what it would have been like for either of us to have married many and various other poeple. I am 100% convinced that there is not another soul on Earth either of us could have married and been happy with. It simply would not have worked.

The idea of a soulmate may sound like a fairytale but it isn't. It is simply two people that became close long before their mortal lives such that the best plan God could afford them could simply be with no other.

Re: Foreordained Love

Posted: April 26th, 2019, 2:30 am
by Elizabeth
Benaishtart wrote: January 12th, 2019, 1:38 pm It’s just my natural assumption that the further along your soul has progressed then the more likely it is that you’ll have foreordained family members. I guarantee you Lehi’s Family and Joseph Smith’s Family was not an accident, that was planned. There’s a quote from BY I think where he said that God looked over the smith clan for hundreds if not thousands of years. High level souls certainly don’t come to this earth without a plan. Families are the most important work we do here in this life so if anything is foreordained it would be our family. I’ve heard from to many people saying their patriarchal blessing made it clear there was a particular life mission which included a particular spouse, I’m not saying there’s no plan B or C, it’s just that there’s so much evidence leading to this.

Re: Foreordained Love

Posted: April 26th, 2019, 2:37 pm
by harakim
Benaishtart wrote: January 11th, 2019, 8:22 pm I’m quite familiar with statements since the 70’s the flat out say that soulmates are fiction. However, I am familiar with statements from John Taylor, Mosiah Hancock, Orson Pratt, Jos F Smith, multiple patriarchs, and others that say otherwise. For example, we know that we can for foreordained to have certain children, that means that there is often the partner involved in those promises. Does anyone on this forum claim to have a soulmate? Were we spiritually begotten in twin pairs of a male and a female? Or does everyone think this is just romantic wishful thinking? Anyone here experienced love at first sight? Do angels make this happen? Would love to hear anyone’s experiences.
Here are my thoughts on this:

I have many soul mates. I have met them. I think there are people I know from before here.

I feel bad for the girls I dated between meeting my wife and marrying here. All of my relationships ended in strange ways. I actually was going to marry this other girl whose family was perfect and we had the same hobbies and stuff... Anyway, we both really liked each other but she felt like she should go on a mission. Her mom was even thinking things could work out for us after like 2 dates. Her dad basically told her to marry me. Anyway, she said she was going to go on a mission and I said I would respect that.

She reached out to me on Facebook after getting her mission call. However, it went into my other inbox, which I didn't know existed at the time. If I had seen that message a few days sooner, we would be married today.

This is not like a one-off. Stuff like this happened all the time. One girl went to the hospital for like water on the brain and I never heard from her again. And I always knew I would marry my wife. And I really connected with my wife and like... felt compelled to talk to her for some reason the first time.

Like another person said, it's hard to imagine having as happy of a relationship with anyone but my wife. The same probably goes for her. However, I know that I have multiple soul mates who I have that instant connection and can instantly understand so much deeper than other people. But I think there are guys like that too, I just don't notice as fast, so I think of them more as pre-mortal best friends than marriage partners. Although, who doesn't want to marry their best friend?

Re: Foreordained Love

Posted: April 28th, 2019, 1:41 pm
by The Airbender
Rwp wrote: January 26th, 2019, 11:34 pm I agree with kirtland r.m. I won't discount anyone else's experience. I have never had the impression me and my husband knew each other before. However, I received very strong promptings that we would marry.

It was February 2009. It was my Senior year of high school and I was getting ready to go to the sweethearts dance with my boyfriend at the time. I was sitting on my best friends bedroom floor in front of a mirror putting on my makeup while she got ready in the bathroom.
I had this strong impression that wasn't mine. "This relationship you have with your boyfriend is nice but you're going to marry _____ (my husband's name)." I remember it so clearly because my husband is my best friends older brother who had returned from his mission almost a year earlier. And I was sitting in that best friends bedroom. I was looking in the mirror at the time and my face was crestfallen. I couldn't believe such an "immature" thought had come to my mind. I pushed it aside. I hadn't even talked to my now-husband more than saying "hi" a few times.

Well, my boyfriend and I broke up within a month. Some untimely high school drama took place. I spent more time with my best friend. I kept my eye on her brother and observed silently. He read his scriptures faithfully. He was actively asking girls on dates in pursuit of a wife. He loved his family. Heck, I loved his family.

Anyway, it's a really long story. There were a lot of promptings I received that let me know he was the one. It's just interesting the first one I received was that I would marry him.

I don't think that specifies we were soul mates. I do think we were likely friends though.
That's awesome. I was determined to marry my high school girlfriend but the Lord told me otherwise after my mission.

Re: Foreordained Love

Posted: May 4th, 2019, 11:57 am
by Elizabeth
"According to Russell M. Nelson: Father, Surgeon, Apostle, President Nelson met his wife, Dantzel, at Kingsbury Hall on the University of Utah campus in 1942. He was asked to participate in the musical Hayfoot, where Dantzel was cast in a leading role. While Dantzel was singing on stage, President Nelson was overwhelmed by her beautiful soprano voice. After meeting her in the musical production, President Nelson felt that this beautiful young woman might someday become his wife. President Nelson recalled, “My attention for her was so immediate and so compelling. I find it very easy to believe that my affinity for her may have been established in a holier pre-mortal sphere.”

Re: Foreordained Love

Posted: May 4th, 2019, 12:25 pm
by Thinker
In an education-week class an instructor suggested the tendency to choose a spouse that would best help us work through unresolved childhood issues. I think there’s some truth to that. I dated a lot & had a few long-term relationships, but none of them really clicked until I met my husband. Hind sight’s 20-20 & I realize some of that clicking involved ignoring red flags because they felt familiar from my childhood dysfunction.

I do believe this life is largely about learning & some people will help facilitate that more than others. And it’s important to have shared values, reciprocity and trust... besides harmony of personalities and temperaments. Yet, it seems more often than not (& this is kind of scary) - the huge life decision of who to marry is based on emotional reasoning. Feelings do matter but must be considered in combination with common sense, facts, etc.

Still, the dream of soul mates can be beautiful & if it helps a marriage maintain vitality - why not?... Cheesy or cool... lol...