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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gZgDW1Isio

Coming soon to a town near you . . .and to a religion near you.

"This is going to be the grooming of the next generation" . . .yeap you've got it.

We ded.

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Yep, it’s happening and being flaunted and celebrated. More and more children’s (preschool) books about gender fluidity also readily available. God help us! And soon please. How long will God be mocked? Also had my first visit to an ‘all genders’ bathroom yesterday. It was at a college and thankfully a single stall.

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mgridle1 wrote: November 24th, 2018, 9:43 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gZgDW1Isio

Coming soon to a town near you . . .and to a religion near you.

"This is going to be the grooming of the next generation" . . .yeap you've got it.

We ded.
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I think I'm getting sick.

I posted these some time ago.

'WORDS CAN'T EXPRESS HOW WRONG THIS IS!! "
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this was over as year ago.

AS THIS DRAG QUEEN READ TO KIDS, EVERYONE SAW THE SHOCKING CONNECTION IT HAD WITH MICHELLE OBAMA
also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJs_bRvIc0

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For most here, this information is old news and they are probably saying, "well, duh" - but remarkably there are still some apparently adult LDS people who still think there is no gay agenda (we know this because they have posted here many times saying that very thing. They seem to think that just because their gay relative doesn't dress up with horns and makeup (that they know of anyway...), that that somehow means there is no gay agenda - truly astonishing). There IS a gay agenda, and this (below) is just a small sampling of it -

Drag queen story hours for children designed to ‘groom the next generation,’ one drag queen admits

Dylan Pontiff — who helped organize a story hour for kids as young as age 3 at a Louisiana public library originally scheduled in October — is shown in a video telling the Lafayette City-Parish Council at a Sept. 17 meeting what’s behind the “very beautiful” event.

“This is gonna be the grooming of the next generation,” Pontiff said. “We are trying to groom the next generation” to be accepting of LGBT values. Pontiff was dressed in street clothes for the meeting but goes by Santana Pilar Andrews when he’s onstage, LifeSite reported.

What do others have to say about the issue?

“Unfortunately, the Drag Queen Story Hour program is turning public libraries into platforms to advance the transgender revolution, places where pro-homosexual activists are given access to children as young as three,” John Ritchie, director of TFP Student Action, said in an interview, according to LifeSite.

“Instead of protecting the precious innocence of our children with wholesome stories, libraries are misusing our tax dollars to harm their innocence,” Ritchie added, according to the outlet. “To attempt to dismantle and destroy the distinction between male and female is not only biologically ridiculous, but also a direct attack against God’s plan for us and for the family. Everyone who loves the family should wake up, pray and push back.”

Indeed, LGBT activists have said they’re determined to indoctrinate children to accept the movement’s agenda.

“I am here to tell you: All that time I said I wasn’t indoctrinating anyone with my beliefs about gay and lesbian and bi and trans and queer people? That was a lie,” S. Bear Bergman wrote in his piece, “I Have Come to Indoctrinate Your Children Into My LGBTQ Agenda (And I’m Not a Bit Sorry)” in 2015. “All 25 years of my career as an LGBTQ activist, since the very first time as a 16-year-old I went and stood shaking and breathless in front of eleven people to talk about My Story, I have been on a consistent campaign of trying to change people’s minds about us. I want to make them like us. That is absolutely my goal. I want to make your children like people like me and my family, even if that goes against the way you have interpreted the teachings of your religion.”

Gay activist Daniel Villarreal wrote in Queerty.com that those in the LGBT movement “want educators to teach future generations of children to accept queer sexuality. In fact, our very future depends on it … Recruiting children? You bet we are.”

His 2011 piece added, “Why would we push anti-bullying programs or social studies classes that teach kids about the historical contributions of famous queers unless we wanted to deliberately educate children to accept queer sexuality as normal?”

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/11/2 ... 270%20days

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EmmaLee wrote: November 29th, 2018, 8:26 am For most here, this information is old news and they are probably saying, "well, duh" - but remarkably there are still some apparently adult LDS people who still think there is no gay agenda (we know this because they have posted here many times saying that very thing. They seem to think that just because their gay relative doesn't dress up with horns and makeup (that they know of anyway...), that that somehow means there is no gay agenda - truly astonishing). There IS a gay agenda, and this (below) is just a small sampling of it -

Drag queen story hours for children designed to ‘groom the next generation,’ one drag queen admits

Dylan Pontiff — who helped organize a story hour for kids as young as age 3 at a Louisiana public library originally scheduled in October — is shown in a video telling the Lafayette City-Parish Council at a Sept. 17 meeting what’s behind the “very beautiful” event.

“This is gonna be the grooming of the next generation,” Pontiff said. “We are trying to groom the next generation” to be accepting of LGBT values. Pontiff was dressed in street clothes for the meeting but goes by Santana Pilar Andrews when he’s onstage, LifeSite reported.

What do others have to say about the issue?

“Unfortunately, the Drag Queen Story Hour program is turning public libraries into platforms to advance the transgender revolution, places where pro-homosexual activists are given access to children as young as three,” John Ritchie, director of TFP Student Action, said in an interview, according to LifeSite.

“Instead of protecting the precious innocence of our children with wholesome stories, libraries are misusing our tax dollars to harm their innocence,” Ritchie added, according to the outlet. “To attempt to dismantle and destroy the distinction between male and female is not only biologically ridiculous, but also a direct attack against God’s plan for us and for the family. Everyone who loves the family should wake up, pray and push back.”

Indeed, LGBT activists have said they’re determined to indoctrinate children to accept the movement’s agenda.

“I am here to tell you: All that time I said I wasn’t indoctrinating anyone with my beliefs about gay and lesbian and bi and trans and queer people? That was a lie,” S. Bear Bergman wrote in his piece, “I Have Come to Indoctrinate Your Children Into My LGBTQ Agenda (And I’m Not a Bit Sorry)” in 2015. “All 25 years of my career as an LGBTQ activist, since the very first time as a 16-year-old I went and stood shaking and breathless in front of eleven people to talk about My Story, I have been on a consistent campaign of trying to change people’s minds about us. I want to make them like us. That is absolutely my goal. I want to make your children like people like me and my family, even if that goes against the way you have interpreted the teachings of your religion.”

Gay activist Daniel Villarreal wrote in Queerty.com that those in the LGBT movement “want educators to teach future generations of children to accept queer sexuality. In fact, our very future depends on it … Recruiting children? You bet we are.”

His 2011 piece added, “Why would we push anti-bullying programs or social studies classes that teach kids about the historical contributions of famous queers unless we wanted to deliberately educate children to accept queer sexuality as normal?”

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/11/2 ... 270%20days
Hasty generalizations are a wicked tool. Wicked, as in nasty. Its the cause/root of some really bad things in our world. I don't like hasty generalizations. I don't want to compartmentalize a whole group and pretend that ALL Jews are X, or ALL gays are Y, or ALL blacks are Z, etc.

Some gay people have an agenda, some don't.

-Finrock

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Finrock wrote: November 29th, 2018, 8:31 am

I don't want to compartmentalize a whole group and [claim] that... ALL gays are Y... etc.
I do.

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Robin Hood wrote: November 29th, 2018, 8:41 am
Finrock wrote: November 29th, 2018, 8:31 am

I don't want to compartmentalize a whole group and pretend that... ALL gays are Y... etc.
I do.
Sure. You aren't alone.

We have to ask ourselves: "Is it just for a person to generalize me and/or my religion?" If it is not just for others to do that to me, then it must mean that it is not just for me to do that to others.

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Sin is sin Finrock.
Would it be ok to generalise a group of killers on death row as sinners?
A group of child molesters?
A group of thieves?
A group of fraudsters?

Then why not a group of sodomites?

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Finrock wrote: November 29th, 2018, 8:31 amHasty generalizations are a wicked tool. Wicked, as in nasty. Its the cause/root of some really bad things in our world. I don't like hasty generalizations. I don't want to compartmentalize a whole group and pretend that ALL Jews are X, or ALL gays are Y, or ALL blacks are Z, etc.

Some gay people have an agenda, some don't.

-Finrock
Well, you shouldn't make hasty generalizations then, Finrock. I said there is a gay agenda - and there is - that is a fact. I didn't say "all gay people have an agenda", so try not to put words in my mouth, and try not to make hasty generalizations.

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So, when you said there is a gay agenda you were just talking about a minority of gay people or were you applying it to gays in general?

-Finrock

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Finrock wrote: November 29th, 2018, 11:49 amSo, when you said there is a gay agenda you were just talking about a minority of gay people or were you applying it to gays in general?

-Finrock
I read it and I would agree, "gay agenda" (the promotion of homosexuality) is a what, not a who. I couldn't find the generalization you are attempting to criticize.

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BackBlast wrote: November 29th, 2018, 2:43 pmI read it and I would agree, "gay agenda" (the promotion of homosexuality) is a what, not a who. I couldn't find the generalization you are attempting to criticize.
but remarkably there are still some apparently adult LDS people who still think there is no gay agenda (we know this because they have posted here many times saying that very thing. They seem to think that just because their gay relative doesn't dress up with horns and makeup (that they know of anyway...), that that somehow means there is no gay agenda - truly astonishing). There IS a gay agenda, and this (below) is just a small sampling of it -
I don't think there is a denial, at least on this board, of there being a gay agenda. Its just that many people, including myself, are not comfortable generalizing a whole population and treating a whole population as one, as opposed to as individuals. *Therefore, some gay people have an agenda, some gay people don't. That is the message.

EDIT AGAIN: The issue here is that if we don't recognize that we are dealing with individual humans, not some nameless, abstract "gay agenda" persons, with the implication being that ALL gay people subscribe to these quotes and ideas being quoted and expressed here and elsewhere, then we are in danger of dehumanizing people. Its easier to be antagonistic against individuals when you've pigeonholed them to a set of particular traits or ideals.

-Finrock

NOTE THE EDIT *

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Finrock wrote: November 29th, 2018, 11:49 amSo, when you said there is a gay agenda you were just talking about a minority of gay people or were you applying it to gays in general?

-Finrock
I, nor you, have any idea if it's a minority or a majority of gay people who have an agenda (or who follow the publicly expressed agenda, such as in the article I posted above). I know some gay people who do not seem to follow said agenda, I know others who do. The self-described gay people who are vocal about this agenda of "indoctrinating children" and "grooming the next generation" (all their words, not mine) speak for themselves, and they are not few in number.

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Finrock wrote: November 29th, 2018, 2:56 pm
BackBlast wrote: November 29th, 2018, 2:43 pm
Finrock wrote: November 29th, 2018, 11:49 am
EmmaLee wrote: November 29th, 2018, 11:13 am Well, you shouldn't make hasty generalizations then, Finrock. I said there is a gay agenda - and there is - that is a fact. I didn't say "all gay people have an agenda", so try not to put words in my mouth, and try not to make hasty generalizations.
So, when you said there is a gay agenda you were just talking about a minority of gay people or were you applying it to gays in general?

-Finrock
I read it and I would agree, "gay agenda" (the promotion of homosexuality) is a what, not a who. I couldn't find the generalization you are attempting to criticize.
but remarkably there are still some apparently adult LDS people who still think there is no gay agenda (we know this because they have posted here many times saying that very thing. They seem to think that just because their gay relative doesn't dress up with horns and makeup (that they know of anyway...), that that somehow means there is no gay agenda - truly astonishing). There IS a gay agenda, and this (below) is just a small sampling of it -
I don't think there is a denial, at least on this board, of there being a gay agenda.
But there is. I could name (but I won't) at least three different forum members who have said that very thing in the last 6+/- months. And they scoff at and mock other forum members who prove that there IS an agenda (the number of gay people working toward that agenda is immaterial and is not the point of this thread).

Its just that many people, including myself, are not comfortable generalizing a whole population and treating a whole population as one, as opposed to as individuals.
Since you quoted me in this post, I am pointing out again that I didn't do that, and you're being disingenuous in continuing to quote (de-facto, accusing) me while having zero evidence that I ever did or suggested any such thing. It's a great, if dishonest, way to turn people's attention away from the point of my post (the article) though.

*Therefore, some gay people have an agenda, some gay people don't. That is the message.
I think most people understand that.

EDIT AGAIN: The issue here is that if we don't recognize that we are dealing with individual humans, not some nameless, abstract "gay agenda" persons, with the implication being that ALL gay people subscribe to these quotes and ideas being quoted and expressed here and elsewhere, then we are in danger of dehumanizing people. Its easier to be antagonistic against individuals when you've pigeonholed them to a set of particular traits or ideals.
The implication is all in your mind, Finrock; at least where I am, or anything I've said in this thread is, concerned - so please do not pigeonhole me, while at the same time accusing others of pigeonholing. And we are dealing with an individual human, with a name (it's in the article I posted above) - nothing "abstract" about this "gay agenda person", as you put it - nor any of the other people posted about on various threads who do indeed subscribe to the gay agenda and are proud and vocal about it (and how do we know they are proud and vocal about it? Uh, because they are vocal about their pride, and they publicly announce their efforts to further the agenda - which does exist). The fact that you put gay agenda in quotes in your post (which is mocking and belittling the idea that there is one) should reveal to most people what they need to know about your efforts to change the subject of this thread.

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What I want to know is why nobody else was volunteering to read for the kids during story hour. At least it doesn't look like anyone else is making time in their busy schedules to become volunteers and difference makers.

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marc wrote: November 29th, 2018, 8:13 pm What I want to know is why nobody else was volunteering to read for the kids during story hour. At least it doesn't look like anyone else is making time in their busy schedules to become volunteers and difference makers.
That's not how these things work. Basically it is a program specifically put out by the LGBT community.
It's not that there is a story-hour at the library and nobody was doing it so the drags stepped up. No,no, it's an "out-reach" effort. They promote it to libraries and libraries sign-up for it to occur.

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mgridle1 wrote: November 29th, 2018, 10:16 pm
marc wrote: November 29th, 2018, 8:13 pm What I want to know is why nobody else was volunteering to read for the kids during story hour. At least it doesn't look like anyone else is making time in their busy schedules to become volunteers and difference makers.
That's not how these things work. Basically it is a program specifically put out by the LGBT community.
It's not that there is a story-hour at the library and nobody was doing it so the drags stepped up. No,no, it's an "out-reach" effort. They promote it to libraries and libraries sign-up for it to occur.
One wonders the birthrate of most librarians.

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Finrock wrote: November 29th, 2018, 2:56 pm
BackBlast wrote: November 29th, 2018, 2:43 pmI read it and I would agree, "gay agenda" (the promotion of homosexuality) is a what, not a who. I couldn't find the generalization you are attempting to criticize.
but remarkably there are still some apparently adult LDS people who still think there is no gay agenda (we know this because they have posted here many times saying that very thing. They seem to think that just because their gay relative doesn't dress up with horns and makeup (that they know of anyway...), that that somehow means there is no gay agenda - truly astonishing). There IS a gay agenda, and this (below) is just a small sampling of it -
I don't think there is a denial, at least on this board, of there being a gay agenda. Its just that many people, including myself, are not comfortable generalizing a whole population and treating a whole population as one, as opposed to as individuals. *Therefore, some gay people have an agenda, some gay people don't. That is the message.

EDIT AGAIN: The issue here is that if we don't recognize that we are dealing with individual humans, not some nameless, abstract "gay agenda" persons, with the implication being that ALL gay people subscribe to these quotes and ideas being quoted and expressed here and elsewhere, then we are in danger of dehumanizing people. Its easier to be antagonistic against individuals when you've pigeonholed them to a set of particular traits or ideals.

-Finrock

NOTE THE EDIT *
Abstractions are useful, even essential, constructs that we may have discussions about ideas and movements without an impenetrable wall of text that dives into too many details. Thus, you shouldn't generalize so about generalizations :P

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Imagine such activities just 20 years ago. Imagine what it will be like in 20 years.

Of course Christians being focused on things other than family and faith is what brought us to where we are today. If they remain silent all one has to do is research what is in store.

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I notice that there has been a bit of a debate on the "gay agenda" here, and to what extent it is organised and by whom. allow me to explain. Just remember to look at the big picture. Father loves us so much that He would have died for us to bring us home as families. He can't and so He sent His Son to do what He could not. The Son laid down and took up His life for us and has shared His priesthood with us so that we can return to the Father as families.

Lucifer hates us so much that he would do anything to make us miserable. We know what he hates because he is the mirror opposite of what Jesus loves. These are the things that he hates. Intimate physical relationships within the lawful bounds of marriage. Ironic, isn't it? (He will never know, (snigger...)) Happy families (he will never experience this either) Children, oh how he hates the innocence of children! (Compare Moroni 8:17) He hates gay people, he hates trans people, he hates conservative and liberals, he hates adulterers and thieves, he hates prophets, apostles and saints, he hates Stalin and Hitler and Mao, he hates Trump and Clinton. He hates nature and the environment, he hates animals, he hates paedophiles, and he hates you. He hates us so much that his is totally consumed and driven by it. He does not sleep, he has no holiday, he is never released from his self imposed exile of invective.

Put into this perspective, it is easy to pick conspiracies, agendas and combinations for what they are; the work of the enemy of light and love, the handiwork of the father of lies. So, absolutely anything that he can do to corrupt family, children, marriage, will have his claw marks on it.

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mgridle1 wrote: November 29th, 2018, 10:16 pm
marc wrote: November 29th, 2018, 8:13 pm What I want to know is why nobody else was volunteering to read for the kids during story hour. At least it doesn't look like anyone else is making time in their busy schedules to become volunteers and difference makers.
That's not how these things work. Basically it is a program specifically put out by the LGBT community.
It's not that there is a story-hour at the library and nobody was doing it so the drags stepped up. No,no, it's an "out-reach" effort. They promote it to libraries and libraries sign-up for it to occur.
Our local library has more reading (and other) volunteers than they can handle - there is literally a waiting list. None of them that I've seen have horns though, nor do they seem obsessed with their sexuality in front of 3 year olds.

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EmmaLee wrote: November 30th, 2018, 10:01 am
mgridle1 wrote: November 29th, 2018, 10:16 pm
marc wrote: November 29th, 2018, 8:13 pm What I want to know is why nobody else was volunteering to read for the kids during story hour. At least it doesn't look like anyone else is making time in their busy schedules to become volunteers and difference makers.
That's not how these things work. Basically it is a program specifically put out by the LGBT community.
It's not that there is a story-hour at the library and nobody was doing it so the drags stepped up. No,no, it's an "out-reach" effort. They promote it to libraries and libraries sign-up for it to occur.
Our local library has more reading (and other) volunteers than they can handle - there is literally a waiting list. None of them that I've seen have horns though, nor do they seem obsessed with their sexuality in front of 3 year olds.
So you live in a protected area??? :)

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Arenera wrote: November 30th, 2018, 10:10 am
EmmaLee wrote: November 30th, 2018, 10:01 am
mgridle1 wrote: November 29th, 2018, 10:16 pm
marc wrote: November 29th, 2018, 8:13 pm What I want to know is why nobody else was volunteering to read for the kids during story hour. At least it doesn't look like anyone else is making time in their busy schedules to become volunteers and difference makers.
That's not how these things work. Basically it is a program specifically put out by the LGBT community.
It's not that there is a story-hour at the library and nobody was doing it so the drags stepped up. No,no, it's an "out-reach" effort. They promote it to libraries and libraries sign-up for it to occur.
Our local library has more reading (and other) volunteers than they can handle - there is literally a waiting list. None of them that I've seen have horns though, nor do they seem obsessed with their sexuality in front of 3 year olds.
So you live in a protected area??? :)
I don't understand the question. What is a "protected area" in your view?

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EmmaLee wrote: November 30th, 2018, 10:13 am
Arenera wrote: November 30th, 2018, 10:10 am
EmmaLee wrote: November 30th, 2018, 10:01 am
mgridle1 wrote: November 29th, 2018, 10:16 pm

That's not how these things work. Basically it is a program specifically put out by the LGBT community.
It's not that there is a story-hour at the library and nobody was doing it so the drags stepped up. No,no, it's an "out-reach" effort. They promote it to libraries and libraries sign-up for it to occur.
Our local library has more reading (and other) volunteers than they can handle - there is literally a waiting list. None of them that I've seen have horns though, nor do they seem obsessed with their sexuality in front of 3 year olds.
So you live in a protected area??? :)
I don't understand the question. What is a "protected area" in your view?
You can see plenty of nature. No strange people are around. Enjoying the good life.

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