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I am new and has taken courage to put up this post, I have been following "Q" since the beginning of the posts in late 2017.

What I hope to do is show some of the posts and add some proofs as to what is going on with the Trump administration.

I believe we are at a turning point in our country where the good are overcoming the bad I know some people on this board

are watching and showing some of the Q related posts already.

Qanon is a group of military Intelligence people who are working closely with President Trump and letting us know or

creating a following of "Patriots" on 8chan, The reason for this I believe is no support for Trump in the main stream media

We know people that are running the world are controlled by Satan and have used power and money to gain this powerful

influence.

What would be the most vile things people would do to others and to whom? to the Evil Satanist we are sheep we are

stupid we are loathed, We are fighting back we are at war we are winning this war this is the Q following. I pray that this

is real and is happening I can't be sure I just search for the truth I hope you join in this search my love to all here.


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"Anonymous ID: grTMpzrL No.147452214
Nov 1 2017 01:13:10 (EST)
Some things must remain classified to the very end. NK is not being run by Kim, he’s an actor in the play. Who is the director? The truth would sound so outrageous most Americans would riot, revolt, reject, etc.
The pedo networks are being dismantled.
The child abductions for satanic rituals (ie Haiti and other 3rd world countries) are paused (not terminated until players in custody).
We pray every single day for God’s guidance and direction as we are truly up against pure evil. "

That is a Q post back in November.


Anonymous ID: grTMpzrL No.147434025
Oct 31 2017 22:00:47 (EST)
There are more good people than bad. The wizards and warlocks (inside term) will not allow another Satanic Evil POS control our country. Realize Soros, Clintons, Obama, Putin, etc. are all controlled by 3 families (the 4th was removed post Trump's victory).

11.3 - Podesta indicted
11.6 - Huma indicted

Manafort was placed into Trump's camp (as well as others). The corruption that will come out is so serious that deals must be cut for people to walk away otherwise 70% of elected politicians would be in jail (you are seeing it already begin). A deep cleaning is occurring and the prevention and defense of pure evil is occurring on a daily basis. They never thought they were going to lose control of the Presidency (not just D's) and thought they had control since making past mistakes (JFK, Reagan).

Good speed, Patriots.
PS, Soros is targeted.

List of some that are being cleaned out


Q !2jsTvXXmXs No.67
May 8 2018 12:38:39 (EST)
Review Time.
Not seeking re-election.
[Senate]
Bob Corker - Republican
Jeff Flake - Republican
Orrin Hatch - Republican
No Name - Republican [Departure Soon]
[House]
Bill Shuster - Republican
Bob Goodlatte - Republican
Carol Shea-Porter - Democrat
Charles W. Dent - Republican
Darrell Issa - Republican
Dave Reichert - Republican
David Trott - Republican
Dennis Ross - Republican
Edward Royce - Republican
Elizabeth Esty - Democrat
Frank LoBiondo - Republican
Gene Green - Democrat
Gregg Harper - Republican
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen - Republican
Jeb Hensarling - Republican
Jim Bridenstine - Republican
Joe Barton - Republican
John Delaney - Democrat
John J. Duncan, Jr. - Republican
Lamar Smith - Republican
Luis V. Gutierrez - Democrat
Lynn Jenkins - Republican
Niki Tsongas - Democrat
Paul Ryan - Republican
Rick Nolan - Democrat
Robert Brady - Democrat
Rodney Frelinghuysen - Republican
Ruben J. Kihuen - Democrat
Ryan Costello - Republican
Sam Johnson - Republican
Sandy Levin - Democrat
Ted Poe - Republican
Thomas Rooney - Republican
Trey Gowdy - Republican
[Resigned]
Al Franken - Democratic U.S. Senate
Blake Farenthold - Republican U.S. House
Jason Chaffetz - Republican U.S. House
John Conyers, Jr. - Democrat U.S. House
Louise Slaughter - Democrat U.S. House
Patrick Meehan - Republican U.S. House
Patrick J. Tiberi - Republican U.S. House
Thad Cochran - Republican U.S. Senate
Tim Murphy - Republican U.S. House
Trent Franks - Republican U.S. House
Xavier Becerra - Democrat Attorney General of Californi

Welcome!

What do you think 2024 is going to look like?

Quote from Ezra Taft Benson

And if the time should come when you are associated with groups that take delight in tearing down our American way of life, then they seem to enjoy pointing out the weaknesses of our free enterprise system – and it has weaknesses; it has weaknesses because it’s operated by men and women who are full of weaknesses – but when those times come, when our system is criticized, just keep in mind the fruits of the system, the great blessings that have come to us because of our American way of life. No group of people have ever attained the standard of living which is ours. And so let’s become acquainted with what has been accomplished. It’s all right to criticize; it’s all right to try and improve our American way of life; but in doing so, 1et’s not surrender, let’s not give up, let’s not jeopardize that system which has made America great.
( Source: “The LDS Church and Politics”, BYU Devotional, Dec 1, 1952 )

Time to fight Patiots

Will we be prepared? Will we be among those who will “bear the Constitution away from the very verge of destruction?” If we desire to be numbered among those who will, here are some things we must do:

1. We must be righteous and moral. We must live the gospel principles—all of them. We have no right to expect a higher degree of morality from those who represent us than what we ourselves are. In the final analysis, people generally get the kind of government they deserve. To live a higher law means we will not seek to receive what we have not earned by our own labor. It means we will remember that government owes us nothing. It means we will keep the laws of the land. It means we will look to God as our Lawgiver and the Source of our liberty.

2. We must learn the principles of the Constitution and then abide by its precepts. We have been instructed again and again to reflect more intently on the meaning and importance of the Constitution and to adhere to its principles. What have we done about this instruction? Have we read the Constitution and pondered it? Are we aware of its principles? Could we defend it? Can we recognize when a law is constitutionally unsound? The Church will not tell us how to do this, but we are admonished to do it. I quote Abraham Lincoln: “Let [the Constitution] be taught in schools, in seminaries, and in colleges, let it be written in primers, in spelling books and in almanacs, let it be preached from the pulpit, proclaimed in legislative halls, and enforced in courts of justice. And, in short, let it become the political religion of the nation.”

3. We must become involved in civic affairs. As citizens of this republic, we cannot do our duty and be idle spectators. It is vital that we follow this counsel from the Lord: “I, the Lord God, make you free, therefore ye are free indeed; and the law also maketh you free. Nevertheless, when the wicked rule the people mourn. Wherefore, honest men and wise men should be sought for diligently, and good men and wise men ye should observe to uphold; otherwise whatsoever is less than these cometh of evil. And I give unto you a commandment, that ye shall forsake all evil and cleave unto all good, that ye shall live by every word which proceedeth forth out of the mouth of God” (D&C 98:8–11).

Note the qualities that the Lord demands in those who are to represent us. They must be good, wise, and honest. Some leaders may be honest and good but unwise in legislation they choose to support. Others may possess wisdom but be dishonest and unvirtuous. We must be concerted in our desires and efforts to see men and women represent us who possess all three of these qualities.

4. We must make our influence felt by our vote, our letters, and our advice. We must be wisely informed and let others know how we feel. We must take part in local precinct meetings and select delegates who will truly represent our feelings.

I have faith that the Constitution will be saved as prophesied by Joseph Smith. But it will not be saved in Washington. It will be saved by the citizens of this nation who love and cherish freedom. It will be saved by enlightened members of this Church — men and women who will subscribe to and abide the principles of the Constitution.
( Source: CHB 28-31 )

Welcome!

What do you think 2024 is going to look like?

I think the old system will be gone the Constitution will reign the rule of law will return

I believe this is the time for the gospel to be sent to the world they are awakening

millions are following.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ut/meet-us-attorney

MAGNA UTAH EAST STAKE (Jan. 26, 2014): President: John W. Huber, 46, executive assistant U.S. Attorney in the U.S. Department of Justice; succeeding James B. Moyes Jr.; wife, Lori Ann Clayton Huber. Counselors: Todd Alexander Hauber, 47, business administrator in the Park City School District; wife, Anne Marie Bordin Hauber. Benjamin Baker Meadows, 37, account manager at Sunstate Equipment Company; wife, Catherine Elizabeth Lauber Meadows.


Who is HUBER?
Define IG.
When does SESSIONS step back in?
Already is?
Why did SESSIONS secretly engage HUBER?
Why did SESSIONS reveal HUBER?

Sealed indictments.
Define indictment.
“An indictment is a formal accusation against one or more defendants, charging them with one or more crimes. In the federal criminal system, the indictment is the principal method by which a prosecutor initiates criminal proceedings.”
How are they sealed?
How are they secured?
How are they safeguarded?
No leaks [unusual?]
Federal vs ….
Why are accusations sealed?
Grand jury involved?
Re_read crumbs re: DOJ / FBI re: IG / Huber
Who appointed Huber?
SESSIONS.

John B Wells discusses this (posted yesterday)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=you ... khum8ununk

Basis for Huber's work?
human rights and corruption?
blocking assets of these Evil people
if you are a CEO and you are caught you would have to resign or the company you represent would be seized !!!



Executive Orders
Executive Order Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption
Law & Justice
Issued on: December 21, 2017


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By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) (NEA), the Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act (Public Law 114-328) (the “Act”), section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (8 U.S.C. 1182(f)) (INA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,
I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that the prevalence and severity of human rights abuse and corruption that have their source, in whole or in substantial part, outside the United States, such as those committed or directed by persons listed in the Annex to this order, have reached such scope and gravity that they threaten the stability of international political and economic systems. Human rights abuse and corruption undermine the values that form an essential foundation of stable, secure, and functioning societies; have devastating impacts on individuals; weaken democratic institutions; degrade the rule of law; perpetuate violent conflicts; facilitate the activities of dangerous persons; and undermine economic markets. The United States seeks to impose tangible and significant consequences on those who commit serious human rights abuse or engage in corruption, as well as to protect the financial system of the United States from abuse by these same persons.
I therefore determine that serious human rights abuse and corruption around the world constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat.
I hereby determine and order:
Section 1. (a) All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in:
(i) the persons listed in the Annex to this order;
(ii) any foreign person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Attorney General:
(A) to be responsible for or complicit in, or to have directly or indirectly engaged in, serious human rights abuse;
(B) to be a current or former government official, or a person acting for or on behalf of such an official, who is responsible for or complicit in, or has directly or indirectly engaged in:
(1) corruption, including the misappropriation of state assets, the expropriation of private assets for personal gain, corruption related to government contracts or the extraction of natural resources, or bribery; or
(2) the transfer or the facilitation of the transfer of the proceeds of corruption;
(C) to be or have been a leader or official of:
(1) an entity, including any government entity, that has engaged in, or whose members have engaged in, any of the activities described in subsections (ii)(A), (ii)(B)(1), or (ii)(B)(2) of this section relating to the leader’s or official’s tenure; or
(2) an entity whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order as a result of activities related to the leader’s or official’s tenure; or
(D) to have attempted to engage in any of the activities described in subsections (ii)(A), (ii)(B)(1), or (ii)(B)(2) of this section; and
(iii) any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Attorney General:
(A) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of:
(1) any activity described in subsections (ii)(A), (ii)(B)(1), or (ii)(B)(2) of this section that is conducted by a foreign person;
(2) any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or
(3) any entity, including any government entity, that has engaged in, or whose members have engaged in, any of the activities described in subsections (ii)(A), (ii)(B)(1), or (ii)(B)(2) of this section, where the activity is conducted by a foreign person;
(B) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or
(C) to have attempted to engage in any of the activities described in subsections (iii)(A) or (B) of this section.
(b) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section apply except to the extent provided by statutes, or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted before the effective date of this order.
Sec. 2. The unrestricted immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens determined to meet one or more of the criteria in section 1 of this order would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and the entry of such persons into the United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, is hereby suspended. Such persons shall be treated as persons covered by section 1 of Proclamation 8693 of July 24, 2011 (Suspension of Entry of Aliens Subject to United Nations Security Council Travel Bans and International Emergency Economic Powers Act Sanctions).
Sec. 3. I hereby determine that the making of donations of the types of articles specified in section 203(b)(2) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(2)) by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order would seriously impair my ability to deal with the national emergency declared in this order, and I hereby prohibit such donations as provided by section 1 of this order.
Sec. 4. The prohibitions in section 1 include:
(a) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; and
(b) the receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person.
Sec. 5. (a) Any transaction that evades or avoids, has the purpose of evading or avoiding, causes a violation of, or attempts to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.
(b) Any conspiracy formed to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.
Sec. 6. For the purposes of this order:
(a) the term “person” means an individual or entity;
(b) the term “entity” means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization; and
(c) the term “United States person” means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.
Sec. 7. For those persons whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to this order would render those measures ineffectual. I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective in addressing the national emergency declared in this order, there need be no prior notice of a listing or determination made pursuant to this order.
Sec. 8. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, is hereby authorized to take such actions, including adopting rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to me by IEEPA and the Act as may be necessary to implement this order and section 1263(a) of the Act with respect to the determinations provided for therein. The Secretary of the Treasury may, consistent with applicable law, redelegate any of these functions to other officers and agencies of the United States. All agencies shall take all appropriate measures within their authority to implement this order.
Sec. 9. The Secretary of State is hereby authorized to take such actions, including adopting rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to me by IEEPA, the INA, and the Act as may be necessary to carry out section 2 of this order and, in consultation with the Secretary of the Treasury, the reporting requirement in section 1264(a) of the Act with respect to the reports provided for in section 1264(b)(2) of that Act. The Secretary of State may, consistent with applicable law, redelegate any of these functions to other officers and agencies of the United States consistent with applicable law.
Sec. 10. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Attorney General, is hereby authorized to determine that circumstances no longer warrant the blocking of the property and interests in property of a person listed in the Annex to this order, and to take necessary action to give effect to that determination.
Sec. 11. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, is hereby authorized to submit recurring and final reports to the Congress on the national emergency declared in this order, consistent with section 401(c) of the NEA (50 U.S.C. 1641(c)) and section 204(c) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1703(c)).
Sec. 12. This order is effective at 12:01 a.m., Eastern Standard Time, December 21, 2017.
Sec. 13. This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
DONALD J. TRUMP
THE WHITE HOUSE,
December 20, 2017.

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 7:43 pm John B Wells discusses this (posted yesterday)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=you ... khum8ununk

Yes that is what we were waiting for is the confirmation
thanks Lizzy

I think it's all great, but it won't last.
It's the calm before the storm.
Revelation 12:1-2
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven;
a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet,
and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 "And she being with child cried, travailing in birth,
and pained to be delivered."
------------------------------
1 Thessalonians 5:3
3 "For when they shall say, Peace and safety;
then sudden destruction cometh upon them,
as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

D&C 136:35
"And now cometh the day of their calamity, even the days of sorrow, like a woman that is taken in travail; and their sorrow shall be great unless they speedily repent, yea, very speedily." D&C 136:35

The fate of this country - "this choice land" is not in the president's hand. it's in God's
And the scriptures have already told us the future, and that American will fall,
and the tribulations will start first on the church,
and the saints will be taken captive for 3 1/2 years.

I AM wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 8:06 pm I think it's all great, but it won't last.
It's the calm before the storm.
Revelation 12:1-2
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven;
a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet,
and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 "And she being with child cried, travailing in birth,
and pained to be delivered."
------------------------------
1 Thessalonians 5:3
3 "For when they shall say, Peace and safety;
then sudden destruction cometh upon them,
as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

D&C 136:35
"And now cometh the day of their calamity, even the days of sorrow, like a woman that is taken in travail; and their sorrow shall be great unless they speedily repent, yea, very speedily." D&C 136:35

The fate of this country - "this choice land" is not in the president's hand. it's in God's
And the scriptures have already told us the future, and that American will fall,
and the tribulations will start first on the church,
and the saints will be taken captive for 3 1/2 years.

Yes I agree things will get bad but I believe the Constitution may be saved for a short time before it gets that bad.
I have hope thank you.

I AM wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 8:06 pm I think it's all great, but it won't last.
It's the calm before the storm.
Revelation 12:1-2
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven;
a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet,
and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 "And she being with child cried, travailing in birth,
and pained to be delivered."
------------------------------
1 Thessalonians 5:3
3 "For when they shall say, Peace and safety;
then sudden destruction cometh upon them,
as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

D&C 136:35
"And now cometh the day of their calamity, even the days of sorrow, like a woman that is taken in travail; and their sorrow shall be great unless they speedily repent, yea, very speedily." D&C 136:35

The fate of this country - "this choice land" is not in the president's hand. it's in God's
And the scriptures have already told us the future, and that American will fall,
and the tribulations will start first on the church,
and the saints will be taken captive for 3 1/2 years.

If I understand the intent of your post, which I take to mean that we are all screwed, so why try, and that our downfall is prophesied from the beginning and sealed, so there is nothing anyone can do about it. This thought pattern is very familiar to me. It is what the Devil had said about me personally. He had me believe there was nothing I could do and that I was lost.

I reject this thought!
I will not accept that repentance cannot take place, and the judgments decreed cannot be stayed because of a repentant people. The Savior stands with outstretched arms and is powerful to save. Even a nation, if there be enough righteous in it. Even the lawful captives shall be delivered - as Isaiah says.

Instead of just saying "yep the world is going to hell in a hand-basket in a hurry", and hang your head in defeat, realize that just ONE man or more powerfully ONE WOMAN can make a change and set in motion events that can save a nation.
The scriptures as well as non scriptural history, are full of such examples.

Instead, I urge and call for God loving people everywhere to embrace good and soundly reject evil and corruption. Build and strengthen good attitudes, concepts and policy. Expose and shine the light of scrutiny on wrongdoings and error.

BE THAT ONE!

Teancum wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 8:35 pm

I AM wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 8:06 pm I think it's all great, but it won't last.
It's the calm before the storm.
Revelation 12:1-2
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven;
a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet,
and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 "And she being with child cried, travailing in birth,
and pained to be delivered."
------------------------------
1 Thessalonians 5:3
3 "For when they shall say, Peace and safety;
then sudden destruction cometh upon them,
as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

D&C 136:35
"And now cometh the day of their calamity, even the days of sorrow, like a woman that is taken in travail; and their sorrow shall be great unless they speedily repent, yea, very speedily." D&C 136:35

The fate of this country - "this choice land" is not in the president's hand. it's in God's
And the scriptures have already told us the future, and that American will fall,
and the tribulations will start first on the church,
and the saints will be taken captive for 3 1/2 years.

If I understand the intent of your post, which I take to mean that we are all screwed, so why try, and that our downfall is prophesied from the beginning and sealed, so there is nothing anyone can do about it. This thought pattern is very familiar to me. It is what the Devil had said about me personally. He had me believe there was nothing I could do and that I was lost.

I reject this thought!
I will not accept that repentance cannot take place, and the judgments decreed cannot be stayed because of a repentant people. The Savior stands with outstretched arms and is powerful to save. Even a nation, if there be enough righteous in it. Even the lawful captives shall be delivered - as Isaiah says.

Instead of just saying "yep the world is going to hell in a hand-basket in a hurry", and hang your head in defeat, realize that just ONE man or more powerfully ONE WOMAN can make a change and set in motion events that can save a nation.
The scriptures as well as non scriptural history, are full of such examples.

Instead, I urge and call for God loving people everywhere to embrace good and soundly reject evil and corruption. Build and strengthen good attitudes, concepts and policy. Expose and shine the light of scrutiny on wrongdoings and error.

BE THAT ONE!

"Expose and shine the light of scrutiny on wrongdoings and error."

I'm confused and what you mean by this?

ldspatriotsawoken wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 7:12 pm Welcome!

What do you think 2024 is going to look like?

I think the old system will be gone the Constitution will reign the rule of law will return

I believe this is the time for the gospel to be sent to the world they are awakening

millions are following.

And you believe this will happen without the shedding of blood?
With the stroke of a pen...the cast of a vote, you believe our republic to be restored?

NIGHTLIGHT wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 8:51 pm

Teancum wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 8:35 pm

I AM wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 8:06 pm I think it's all great, but it won't last.
It's the calm before the storm.
Revelation 12:1-2
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven;
a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet,
and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 "And she being with child cried, travailing in birth,
and pained to be delivered."
------------------------------
1 Thessalonians 5:3
3 "For when they shall say, Peace and safety;
then sudden destruction cometh upon them,
as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

D&C 136:35
"And now cometh the day of their calamity, even the days of sorrow, like a woman that is taken in travail; and their sorrow shall be great unless they speedily repent, yea, very speedily." D&C 136:35

The fate of this country - "this choice land" is not in the president's hand. it's in God's
And the scriptures have already told us the future, and that American will fall,
and the tribulations will start first on the church,
and the saints will be taken captive for 3 1/2 years.

If I understand the intent of your post, which I take to mean that we are all screwed, so why try, and that our downfall is prophesied from the beginning and sealed, so there is nothing anyone can do about it. This thought pattern is very familiar to me. It is what the Devil had said about me personally. He had me believe there was nothing I could do and that I was lost.

I reject this thought!
I will not accept that repentance cannot take place, and the judgments decreed cannot be stayed because of a repentant people. The Savior stands with outstretched arms and is powerful to save. Even a nation, if there be enough righteous in it. Even the lawful captives shall be delivered - as Isaiah says.

Instead of just saying "yep the world is going to hell in a hand-basket in a hurry", and hang your head in defeat, realize that just ONE man or more powerfully ONE WOMAN can make a change and set in motion events that can save a nation.
The scriptures as well as non scriptural history, are full of such examples.

Instead, I urge and call for God loving people everywhere to embrace good and soundly reject evil and corruption. Build and strengthen good attitudes, concepts and policy. Expose and shine the light of scrutiny on wrongdoings and error.

BE THAT ONE!

"Expose and shine the light of scrutiny on wrongdoings and error."

I'm confused and what you mean by this?

What I mean is we can either shrink from the fight - this spiritual war we are all part of - or step into it and be a force for good, espousing good and rejecting and refusing evil. I hope this clarifies my thought.

Welcome to the board. Appreciate your thoughts and input.

Teancum wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 8:35 pm

I AM wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 8:06 pm I think it's all great, but it won't last.
It's the calm before the storm.
Revelation 12:1-2
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven;
a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet,
and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 "And she being with child cried, travailing in birth,
and pained to be delivered."
------------------------------
1 Thessalonians 5:3
3 "For when they shall say, Peace and safety;
then sudden destruction cometh upon them,
as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

D&C 136:35
"And now cometh the day of their calamity, even the days of sorrow, like a woman that is taken in travail; and their sorrow shall be great unless they speedily repent, yea, very speedily." D&C 136:35

The fate of this country - "this choice land" is not in the president's hand. it's in God's
And the scriptures have already told us the future, and that American will fall,
and the tribulations will start first on the church,
and the saints will be taken captive for 3 1/2 years.

If I understand the intent of your post, which I take to mean that we are all screwed, so why try, and that our downfall is prophesied from the beginning and sealed, so there is nothing anyone can do about it. This thought pattern is very familiar to me. It is what the Devil had said about me personally. He had me believe there was nothing I could do and that I was lost.

I reject this thought!
I will not accept that repentance cannot take place, and the judgments decreed cannot be stayed because of a repentant people. The Savior stands with outstretched arms and is powerful to save. Even a nation, if there be enough righteous in it. Even the lawful captives shall be delivered - as Isaiah says.

Instead of just saying "yep the world is going to hell in a hand-basket in a hurry", and hang your head in defeat, realize that just ONE man or more powerfully ONE WOMAN can make a change and set in motion events that can save a nation.
The scriptures as well as non scriptural history, are full of such examples.

Instead, I urge and call for God loving people everywhere to embrace good and soundly reject evil and corruption. Build and strengthen good attitudes, concepts and policy. Expose and shine the light of scrutiny on wrongdoings and error.

BE THAT ONE!

And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me, Nephi, saying: Thou hast beheld that if the Gentiles repent it shall be well with them; and thou also knowest concerning the covenants of the Lord unto the house of Israel; and thou also hast heard that whoso repenteth not must perish.

6 Therefore, wo be unto the Gentiles if it so be that they harden their hearts against the Lamb of God.

7 For the time cometh, saith the Lamb of God, that I will work a great and a marvelous work among the children of men; a work which shall be everlasting, either on the one hand or on the other—either to the convincing of them unto peace and life eternal, or unto the deliverance of them to the hardness of their hearts and the blindness of their minds unto their being brought down into captivity, and also into destruction, both temporally and spiritually, according to the captivity of the devil, of which I have spoken.....



And blessed are the Gentiles, they of whom the prophet has written; for behold, if it so be that they shall repent and fight not against Zion, and do not unite themselves to that great and abominable church, they shall be saved; for the Lord God will fulfil his covenants which he has made unto his children; and for this cause the prophet has written these things.

13 Wherefore, they that fight against Zion and the covenant people of the Lord shall lick up the dust of their feet; and the people of the Lord shall not be ashamed. For the people of the Lord are they who wait for him; for they still wait for the coming of the Messiah.

14 And behold, according to the words of the prophet, the Messiah will set himself again the second time to recover them; wherefore, he will manifest himself unto them in power and great glory, unto the destruction of their enemies, when that day cometh when they shall believe in him; and none will he destroy that believe in him.

15 And they that believe not in him shall be destroyed, both by fire, and by tempest, and by earthquakes, and by bloodsheds, and by pestilence, and by famine. And they shall know that the Lord is God, the Holy One of Israel.

16 For shall the prey be taken from the mighty, or the lawful captive delivered?

17 But thus saith the Lord: Even the captives of the mighty shall be taken away, and the prey of the terrible shall be delivered; for the Mighty God shall deliver his covenant people. For thus saith the Lord: I will contend with them that contendeth with thee—

18 And I will feed them that oppress thee, with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood as with sweet wine; and all flesh shall know that I the Lord am thy Savior and thy Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob......



For behold, they murdered all the prophets of the Lord who came among them to declare unto them concerning their iniquities; and the blood of those whom they murdered did cry unto the Lord their God for vengeance upon those who were their murderers; and thus the judgments of God did come upon these workers of darkness and secret combinations.

31 Yea, and cursed be the land forever and ever unto those workers of darkness and secret combinations, even unto destruction, except they repent before they are fully ripe.........

So here we have our nation that has " murdered the prophets" and our nation has not repented. And cursed is our land/nation because of the secret combinations that have taken over our government.

Wo, wo, wo unto this people; wo unto the inhabitants of the whole earth except they shall repent; for the devil laugheth, and his angels rejoice, because of the slain of the fair sons and daughters of my people; and it is because of their iniquity and abominations that they are fallen!......

EXCEPT WE SHALL REPENT....

And thus commandeth the Father that I should say unto you: At that day when the Gentiles shall sin against my gospel, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, and shall be lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations, and above all the people of the whole earth, and shall be filled with all manner of lyings, and of deceits, and of mischiefs, and all manner of hypocrisy, and murders, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, and of secret abominations; and if they shall do all those things, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, behold, saith the Father, I will bring the fulness of my gospel from among them.

11 And then will I remember my covenant which I have made unto my people, O house of Israel, and I will bring my gospel unto them.

12 And I will show unto thee, O house of Israel, that the Gentiles shall not have power over you; but I will remember my covenant unto you, O house of Israel, and ye shall come unto the knowledge of the fulness of my gospel.

13 But if the Gentiles will repent and return unto me, saith the Father, behold they shall be numbered among my people, O house of Israel.

14 And I will not suffer my people, who are of the house of Israel, to go through among them, and tread them down, saith the Father.

15 But if they will not turn unto me, and hearken unto my voice, I will suffer them, yea, I will suffer my people, O house of Israel, that they shall go through among them, and shall tread them down, and they shall be as salt that hath lost its savor, which is thenceforth good for nothing but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of my people, O house of Israel.

16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, thus hath the Father commanded me—that I should give unto this people (Indians) this land for their inheritance.......



Hearken, O ye Gentiles, and hear the words of Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God, which he hath commanded me that I should speak concerning you, for, behold he commandeth me that I should write, saying:

2 Turn, all ye Gentiles, from your wicked ways; and repent of your evil doings, of your lyings and deceivings, and of your whoredoms, and of your secret abominations, and your idolatries, and of your murders, and your priestcrafts, and your envyings, and your strifes, and from all your wickedness and abominations, and come unto me, and be baptized in my name, that ye may receive a remission of your sins, and be filled with the Holy Ghost, that ye may be numbered with my people who are of the house of Israel.........

The command above, to us gentiles to repent and turn from our wicked evil ways has continually been ignored by the masses in this country. The secret combinations have gained power over the whole government. How long will Gods longsuffering last?


And it came to pass that Noah continued his preaching unto the people, saying: Hearken, and give heed unto my words;

24 Believe and repent of your sins and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, even as our fathers, and ye shall receive the Holy Ghost, that ye may have all things made manifest; and if ye do not this, the floods will come in upon you; nevertheless they hearkened not.

25 And it repented Noah, and his heart was pained that the Lord had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at the heart.

26 And the Lord said: I will destroy man whom I have created, from the face of the earth, both man and beast, and the creeping things, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth Noah that I have created them, and that I have made them; and he hath called upon me; for they have sought his life.

27 And thus Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord; for Noah was a just man, and perfect in his generation; and he walked with God, as did also his three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

28 The earth was corrupt before God, and it was filled with violence.

29 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its way upon the earth.

30 And God said unto Noah: The end of all flesh is come before me, for the earth is filled with violence, and behold I will destroy all flesh from off the earth.......

We are close to, or possibly at the same general wickedness like unto the days of Noah. Yes we can repent, yes we have a great promise IF we repent. But it seems that we as a whole do not repent. And we very much are lifted up in pride above all nations. We as a nation are " spending our means warring in foreign nations". We ( as a nation) are doing what the Nephites did when they went on the offensive against the Lamanites. At that point God would not protect them anymore.
I think that just for the awful crime of abortion in its various demonic forms, this nation is under a terrible condemnation.
Its been mentioned above about pedofiles and similiar sick crimes. But who will stand up and fight for the innocent unborn? And yet both "sides" are guilty, " Republicans" and "Democrats" Liberal and Conservatives. Our morality is practically gone. The family is fading into oblivion.

Like Isaiah says about us:

1Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:

2But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

3For your hands are defiled with blood, (abortion among other atrocities) and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.

4None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.

5They hatch cockatrice' eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.

6Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.

7Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood:( here we are again with the shedding of innocent blood) their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.

8The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.

9Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness.

10We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no eyes: we stumble at noonday as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead men.

11We roar all like bears, and mourn sore like doves: we look for judgment, but there is none; for salvation, but it is far off from us.

12For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them;

13In transgressing and lying against the LORD, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.

14And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.

15Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.

16And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his "arm" (Gods Deliverer) brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.

17For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke.

18According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.

19So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.

20And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.

21As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.....

Inspite of it all there is hope....


And Jeremiah:

A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land;

31The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

" In the end thereof" as in the end of times? Or the end of days?

This entity, 'Q', with the q-level security clearance, would most likely have been routed out within a few days if he were really divulging secret behind the scene happenings. The dark side of intelligence agencies wouldn't stand for someone in their ranks handing out reports and easily has the means to discover them.

Some political party in New Zealand did the research on Qanon and concluded it was basically just an effort to waste constitutional people's time and attention.

WikiLeaks
@wikileaks
WikiLeaks added,
This analysis, unfortunately, increasingly appears that it may be correct:

Suzie Dawson
@Suzi3D
1. I referred to #QAnon today as a 'Pied Piper' operation. What I meant by this, is that the operation exists to round up people that are otherwise dangerous to the Deep State (because they are genuinely opposed to it) usurp time & attention, & trick them into serving its aims.

Many of the conclusions they push sound sort of right, but under scrutiny, it becomes obvious that the revelations are fiction, meant to stir a reaction in followers and waste time and ruin credibility.
DallasGoldBug was doing the exact same thing a couple of years ago. Initially, he had some hard-hitting likely-true content, then immediately he was mixing in total absurd fiction, ruining the credibility of anyone who posted links to his videos.

NIGHTLIGHT wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 8:55 pm

ldspatriotsawoken wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 7:12 pm Welcome!

What do you think 2024 is going to look like?

I think the old system will be gone the Constitution will reign the rule of law will return

I believe this is the time for the gospel to be sent to the world they are awakening

millions are following.

And you believe this will happen without the shedding of blood?
With the stroke of a pen...the cast of a vote, you believe our republic to be restored?

just a few here
JFK
Seth Rich
Vegas
secret service agent
Seth Rich only mentioned because it directly relates to SA.
Las Vegas.
What hotel did the 'reported' gunfire occur from?
What floors specifically?
Who owns the top floors?
Top floors only.
Why is that relevant?
What was the shooter's name?
What was his net worth?
How do you identify a spook?
What can historical data collection reveal?
Was there any eye witnesses?
Who?
Was he registered as a security guard?
Why is MS13 important?
What doesn't add up?
Was there only one shooter?
Why was JFK released?
What do the JFK files infer?
Was there only one shooter?
Who was in LV during this time?
What was the real mission?
Speculate.
Why are survivors dying randomly?
What do each of these survivors have in common?
Did they talk on social media?
What did they say?
Were they going to form a group?
Why is this relevant?
How did they die?
What CIA report was released by WK?
What can control a car?
How did the (2) of the survivors die?
Car crash?
How does this connect to SA?
What just happened in SA?
Who owns the top floors of the hotel?
What happened today in SA?
To who specifically?
Was POTUS in LV that night?
Yes/no?
Why was he there?
Who did he have a classified meeting with?
Did AF1 land at McCarran?
What unmarked tail numbers flew into McCarren that night?
Trace AF1 that entire day.
What do you notice?
Classified.

moving2zion wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 10:38 pm Welcome to the board. Appreciate your thoughts and input.

thanks I have been afraid to do this because I am not on any other social media and not familiar with computer posting and such but I can't sleep at night I feel that a change is coming this change was planed for many years JFK files were released so we could see the Evil in our own government. I think God is behind it.

A GREAT DAY FOR THE RULE OF LAW.
CONGRATULATIONS, JUSTICE K!
THERE IS MUCH WORK TO BE DONE.
TODAY, THE REPUBLIC, TOOK BACK CONTROL.
Q+

web site for Q proofs
mostly it is timing of trump twitter posts with q posts
https://qanonproofs.com/

thousands have been arrested many have been freed why the Main Stream Media aren't talking about this shows they are complicit in it.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-st ... afficking/

ldspatriotsawoken wrote: web site for Q proofs
mostly it is timing of trump twitter posts with q posts
https://qanonproofs.com/

I think this underestimates the intelligence of people meant to read it.

Teancum wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 8:35 pm

I AM wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 8:06 pm I think it's all great, but it won't last.
It's the calm before the storm.
Revelation 12:1-2
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven;
a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet,
and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 "And she being with child cried, travailing in birth,
and pained to be delivered."
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1 Thessalonians 5:3
3 "For when they shall say, Peace and safety;
then sudden destruction cometh upon them,
as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

D&C 136:35
"And now cometh the day of their calamity, even the days of sorrow, like a woman that is taken in travail; and their sorrow shall be great unless they speedily repent, yea, very speedily." D&C 136:35

The fate of this country - "this choice land" is not in the president's hand. it's in God's
And the scriptures have already told us the future, and that American will fall,
and the tribulations will start first on the church,
and the saints will be taken captive for 3 1/2 years.

If I understand the intent of your post, which I take to mean that we are all screwed, so why try, and that our downfall is prophesied from the beginning and sealed, so there is nothing anyone can do about it. This thought pattern is very familiar to me. It is what the Devil had said about me personally. He had me believe there was nothing I could do and that I was lost.

I reject this thought!
I will not accept that repentance cannot take place, and the judgments decreed cannot be stayed because of a repentant people. The Savior stands with outstretched arms and is powerful to save. Even a nation, if there be enough righteous in it. Even the lawful captives shall be delivered - as Isaiah says.

Instead of just saying "yep the world is going to hell in a hand-basket in a hurry", and hang your head in defeat, realize that just ONE man or more powerfully ONE WOMAN can make a change and set in motion events that can save a nation.
The scriptures as well as non scriptural history, are full of such examples.

Instead, I urge and call for God loving people everywhere to embrace good and soundly reject evil and corruption. Build and strengthen good attitudes, concepts and policy. Expose and shine the light of scrutiny on wrongdoings and error.

BE THAT ONE!

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I totally agree - individually - we should be doing everything we possibly can.
But if we trust in the scriptures, they already say what will happen as a whole.
but again, that doesn't mean that it will happen to us individually, if we are doing
everything we can, and being led by the Lord.
And, It's not MY intent .
It's the intent that the prophets had when they wrote these things
intending to warn us.
I can't change what the scriptures say.
According to the scriptures - this country - this "choice land" of America will fall.
And the tribulations will start first on the church.

2 Nephi 28
32 Wo be unto the Gentiles, saith the Lord God of Hosts! For notwithstanding I shall lengthen out mine arm unto them from day to day, they will deny me; nevertheless, I will be merciful unto them, saith the Lord God,
if they will repent and come unto me; for mine arm is lengthened out all the day long, saith the Lord God of Hosts.

but the Lord has already said that we wouldn't.

Jesus - who knows everything, also knew that we WOULDN"T repent,
and that we would sin against His gospel,
This is directed to the church.
HOW CAN YOU " SIN AGAINST MY GOSPEL
"and shall reject the fulness of my gospel"
unless you are a member.
only the church and it's members can "sin against my gospel,
and shall reject the fulness of my gospel"

and Jesus doesn't say "if" - He says "WHEN"

10 And thus commandeth the Father that I should say unto you: At that day when the Gentiles shall sin against my gospel, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, and shall be lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations, and above all the people of the whole earth, and shall be filled with all manner of lyings, and of deceits, and of mischiefs, and all manner of hypocrisy, and murders, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, and of secret abominations; and if they shall do all those things, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, behold, saith the Father,
I will bring the fulness of my gospel from among them.