Deepfakes. Can you tell the difference?

[Michelle]

It doesn't look like we have addressed this topic yet, except that I warned some time in the future AI would be able make a video/avatar of "grandma" speaking with you so you won't have to feel bad about euthanizing her as she gets old.

Deepfakes: videos that use AI to create a realistic representation of real people saying and doing things, they have -not- done. Right now it is mostly face swapping.

Here is a DeseretNews article discussing detecting deepfakes.

Such fraudulent videos are often made by feeding a large number of images to a computer that uses machine learning to recreate a person’s face and natural expressions. Then, the fabricated face is superimposed onto a video of someone else.

Most recently, in August, researchers at UC Berkeley published a new method that goes beyond cutting and pasting a person's face onto a new body and allows for full-body manipulation. A demo video shows how the team was able to project a professional dancer's moves onto another person.

Deepfake technology — orginially developed for communication, educational and entertainment applications — has since been exploited to put celebrities in pornographic scenes and experts worry the convincing videos could create broader damage by undermining political campaigns, scamming people and inciting violence.

Manipulated videos could be used to threaten someone with false evidence of an affair or sabotage a competitor’s career with fabricated evidence of a racist comment, according to Odavya. A deep-fake video of a politician declaring war might actually start one.

Even if a video can be disproven, it might not matter.

“Very often even when stuff can be decisively refuted, the refutation doesn’t travel as quickly as the initial scandalous claim,” said Sanchez. “In a political campaign context, if something scandalous drops in late October, it might not matter that experts can show it’s a fake two weeks later.”

Earlier this year, Google unveiled a new product called Duplex which has the ability to call and make an appointment for you. It says “um” and “mmhmm” and phrases like “gotcha, thanks.” It hesitates and pauses like a human would, and as a result, when Google tested it, people on the other end of the line couldn’t tell they were talking to a robot.

BYU students are working on receiving a grant for making AI/Alexa speak as a human so that a person cannot tell the difference. They call her "Eve"

https://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/ ... b0ec4.html

The BYU team is one of eight teams chosen worldwide to compete in the second annual Alexa Prize Challenge by Amazon. The team received a $250,000 grant to work on Eve, short for Emotive Adversarial Ensembles, and work on cracking conversational artificial intelligence.

The team will work on the project into the summer for the chance to win $1 million for the university and $500,000 to split among the team.

The ultimate goal, set by Amazon, is to have Eve be so engaging, a human will continue a conversation with her for 20 minutes.

https://news.byu.edu/news/alexa-can-we- ... nversation

[Fiannan]

BYU students are working on receiving a grant for making AI/Alexa speak as a human so that a person cannot tell the difference. They call her "Eve"

What could go wrong?

[mes5464]

The idea is creepy.

[JohnnyL]

Holograms have already done similar things.

CNN used it in 2008: https://www.smh.com.au/technology/cnn-d ... dt1o9.html
From 2012: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR_TMMPxEYY

Unfortunately, I cannot find this, but there was a video of a govt. press conference with Pres. W. Bush? sitting at the table with a "living" man that was already dead, according to a few. The man was silent, didn't move much. No one seemed to notice, though. As in the CNN story, though, a camera(s) caught a fuzzy shining line around his arm.

Project Blue Beam.

Plenty of deepfake videos on youtube already.

Yeah, very scary.

[Chip]

Seems the deep state would be projecting this right now, maybe before videos surface of them doing horrible things to children?

[Michelle]

Here is a dead singer, doing concerts as a hologram.

https://www.foxtheatre.org/events/detail/roy-orbison

[ElizaRSkousen]

Our poor children and grandchildren.

[Juliet]

When Guiliani came out saying pizzagate is all true, I emailed them about my knowledge of underground pedophilia and they emailed me back saying Guiliani has gone into hiding and if I see him in the news it is actually cgi, and cgi tech can make it look perfectly real.

The email said they had to dumb it down on the star wars movie The Force Awakens on purpose.

Since then there was a long break of not hearing Guiliani in the news until I mentioned it on this forum and the very next day you hear about him speaking out about Mueller and he has been in the news ever since.

It's a good thing all this stuff is fluff and none of it true because otherwise it is enough to make someone superstitious.

[Chip]

When Guiliani came out saying pizzagate is all true, I emailed them about my knowledge of underground pedophilia and they emailed me back saying Guiliani has gone into hiding and if I see him in the news it is actually cgi, and cgi tech can make it look perfectly real.

The email said they had to dumb it down on the star wars movie The Force Awakens on purpose.

Since then there was a long break of not hearing Guiliani in the news until I mentioned it on this forum and the very next day you hear about him speaking out about Mueller and he has been in the news ever since.

It's a good thing all this stuff is fluff and none of it true because otherwise it is enough to make someone superstitious.

What do you mean by your last sentence, Juliet?

[Juliet]

When Guiliani came out saying pizzagate is all true, I emailed them about my knowledge of underground pedophilia and they emailed me back saying Guiliani has gone into hiding and if I see him in the news it is actually cgi, and cgi tech can make it look perfectly real.

The email said they had to dumb it down on the star wars movie The Force Awakens on purpose.

Since then there was a long break of not hearing Guiliani in the news until I mentioned it on this forum and the very next day you hear about him speaking out about Mueller and he has been in the news ever since.

It's a good thing all this stuff is fluff and none of it true because otherwise it is enough to make someone superstitious.

What do you mean by your last sentence, Juliet?

There is a lot going on to prove the deep state. I have experienced it on a personal level.

[Michelle]

Our poor children and grandchildren.

I don't think so. (Since I seem to remember your comments about you being younger than we think you are. )

I use to think that, but I am more convinced than ever that the Millennium is just around the corner.

IF the timelines are true and I am part of a generation that must be prepared to meet my God, and the generation that listened to President Nelsons "Becoming True Millennial's" talk are young adults within the last 2 years, then I think that the event of the advent of the Millennium divides the two.

I believe my older children and my younger children are part of two different generations as well. As far as the Spirit has directed me, the divide happens between my older 4 and younger 3.

Take that with a grain of salt though, please.

[ElizaRSkousen]

Our poor children and grandchildren.

I don't think so. (Since I seem to remember your comments about you being younger than we think you are. )

I use to think that, but I am more convinced than ever that the Millennium is just around the corner.

IF the timelines are true and I am part of a generation that must be prepared to meet my God, and the generation that listened to President Nelsons "Becoming True Millennial's" talk are young adults within the last 2 years, then I think that the event of the advent of the Millennium divides the two.

I believe my older children and my younger children are part of two different generations as well. As far as the Spirit has directed me, the divide happens between my older 4 and younger 3.

Take that with a grain of salt though, please.

I really really really hope so!

edit: I admit I liked it better when I was a 'senior citizen'.

[Chip]

When Guiliani came out saying pizzagate is all true, I emailed them about my knowledge of underground pedophilia and they emailed me back saying Guiliani has gone into hiding and if I see him in the news it is actually cgi, and cgi tech can make it look perfectly real.

The email said they had to dumb it down on the star wars movie The Force Awakens on purpose.

Since then there was a long break of not hearing Guiliani in the news until I mentioned it on this forum and the very next day you hear about him speaking out about Mueller and he has been in the news ever since.

It's a good thing all this stuff is fluff and none of it true because otherwise it is enough to make someone superstitious.

What do you mean by your last sentence, Juliet?

There is a lot going on to prove the deep state. I have experienced it on a personal level.

Well, I still don't get it.

Do you mean efforts are being made to prove that the deep state exists, so that it can be exposed? Or, do you mean that effort is being made to make it look like a deep state exists, when it really doesn't? Please tell me like I'm six.

[Juliet]

When Guiliani came out saying pizzagate is all true, I emailed them about my knowledge of underground pedophilia and they emailed me back saying Guiliani has gone into hiding and if I see him in the news it is actually cgi, and cgi tech can make it look perfectly real.

The email said they had to dumb it down on the star wars movie The Force Awakens on purpose.

Since then there was a long break of not hearing Guiliani in the news until I mentioned it on this forum and the very next day you hear about him speaking out about Mueller and he has been in the news ever since.

It's a good thing all this stuff is fluff and none of it true because otherwise it is enough to make someone superstitious.

What do you mean by your last sentence, Juliet?

There is a lot going on to prove the deep state. I have experienced it on a personal level.

Well, I still don't get it.

Do you mean efforts are being made to prove that the deep state exists, so that it can be exposed? Or, do you mean that effort is being made to make it look like a deep state exists, when it really doesn't? Please tell me like I'm six.

Well, it can mean either depending on your point of view. If I word it the way I did, those who see the conspiratorial side will be enlightened and those who deny the existence of conspiracy will be appeased.

I am learning the hard way to present my views that hinge on fanatical in a way that those who are open to them can look deeper into it without making statements that if made directly would be too controversial and open me up to attack my credibility and therefore make my views pointless no matter how right or imperfect they may be.

I know I just made it ten times more confusing. It's just going to be that way I am afraid.

[Chip]

What do you mean by your last sentence, Juliet?

There is a lot going on to prove the deep state. I have experienced it on a personal level.

Well, I still don't get it.

Do you mean efforts are being made to prove that the deep state exists, so that it can be exposed? Or, do you mean that effort is being made to make it look like a deep state exists, when it really doesn't? Please tell me like I'm six.

Well, it can mean either depending on your point of view. If I word it the way I did, those who see the conspiratorial side will be enlightened and those who deny the existence of conspiracy will be appeased.

I am learning the hard way to present my views that hinge on fanatical in a way that those who are open to them can look deeper into it without making statements that if made directly would be too controversial and open me up to attack my credibility and therefore make my views pointless no matter how right or imperfect they may be.

I know I just made it ten times more confusing. It's just going to be that way I am afraid.

It's not fanatical to me, just uncertain. You can talk to me like I'm another crazy person. I'll understand you then.

[Juliet]

There is a lot going on to prove the deep state. I have experienced it on a personal level.

Well, I still don't get it.

Do you mean efforts are being made to prove that the deep state exists, so that it can be exposed? Or, do you mean that effort is being made to make it look like a deep state exists, when it really doesn't? Please tell me like I'm six.

Well, it can mean either depending on your point of view. If I word it the way I did, those who see the conspiratorial side will be enlightened and those who deny the existence of conspiracy will be appeased.

I am learning the hard way to present my views that hinge on fanatical in a way that those who are open to them can look deeper into it without making statements that if made directly would be too controversial and open me up to attack my credibility and therefore make my views pointless no matter how right or imperfect they may be.

I know I just made it ten times more confusing. It's just going to be that way I am afraid.

It's not fanatical to me, just uncertain. You can talk to me like I'm another crazy person. I'll understand you then.

Finally someone to talk crazy with! Thank you.

I am trying learn the skill of sharing what I am learning in a relatable way.

I have been silenced on other forums for my ideas so I am continually reviewing the situation and mostly failing but at least I am learning what not to do.

I guess along with the topic, I do believe it is very easy for our electronic dealings to be tracked and if one is going to share something online that would upset the system or powers that be then such people will have their electronic communications under a more constant survellience.

[Chip]

Well, I still don't get it.

Do you mean efforts are being made to prove that the deep state exists, so that it can be exposed? Or, do you mean that effort is being made to make it look like a deep state exists, when it really doesn't? Please tell me like I'm six.

Well, it can mean either depending on your point of view. If I word it the way I did, those who see the conspiratorial side will be enlightened and those who deny the existence of conspiracy will be appeased.

I am learning the hard way to present my views that hinge on fanatical in a way that those who are open to them can look deeper into it without making statements that if made directly would be too controversial and open me up to attack my credibility and therefore make my views pointless no matter how right or imperfect they may be.

I know I just made it ten times more confusing. It's just going to be that way I am afraid.

It's not fanatical to me, just uncertain. You can talk to me like I'm another crazy person. I'll understand you then.

Finally someone to talk crazy with! Thank you.

I am trying learn the skill of sharing what I am learning in a relatable way.

I have been silenced on other forums for my ideas so I am continually reviewing the situation and mostly failing but at least I am learning what not to do.

I guess along with the topic, I do believe it is very easy for our electronic dealings to be tracked and if one is going to share something online that would upset the system or powers that be then such people will have their electronic communications under a more constant survellience.

This is really picking up steam in China now:

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/09/18/ ... ryone.html

“If people keep their promises they can go anywhere in the world,” he said. “If people break their promises they won’t be able to move an inch!”

[Fiannan]

Improve AI to interact just like a human. Check. Put it in robots. Check. End marriage and family as we know it. Check.

[JohnnyL]

Improve AI to interact just like a human. Check. Put it in robots. Check. End marriage and family as we know it. Check.

And even more...

7th Day, Surrogates, etc.

They have already switched out people with impersonators (search youtube, especially for family members saying so), such as Dave Chappelle. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZCqIuOx6OA (You know they have done that with president doubles, etc.)
WHOA!! If you searched that a year ago, all kinds of videos would come up. Now, youtube has censored search so much you might not be able to find more than one or two of them...

Your identity can be stolen, and "you" do things you never did. It sure will make arresting people much easier.

[Fiannan]

Improve AI to interact just like a human. Check. Put it in robots. Check. End marriage and family as we know it. Check.

And even more...

7th Day, Surrogates, etc.

They have already switched out people with impersonators (search youtube, especially for family members saying so), such as Dave Chappelle. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZCqIuOx6OA (You know they have done that with president doubles, etc.)
WHOA!! If you searched that a year ago, all kinds of videos would come up. Now, youtube has censored search so much you might not be able to find more than one or two of them...

Your identity can be stolen, and "you" do things you never did. It sure will make arresting people much easier.

Already I have heard of men who miss their deceased wives so they order a sex robot of what she may have looked like in her younger years. There is enough information about who you are recorded over tens of thousands of interactions with social media that in the very near future you can basically bring your deceased young one to life in an advanced robot who will be indistinguishable from the real thing.

[abijah]

sounds like satan’s version of resurrection

[Michelle]

sounds like satan’s version of resurrection

abijah wins!

This is what I have been trying to tell people!

There is always a counterfeit to God's plans and no good counterfeit looks entirely different. The more it looks like the real thing, the easier to trick people.

Satan is making promises he can't keep again: Eternal life, but without having to follow the commandments. In fact, with Virtual Reality, it is promised to be full of pornography, violence and video games if that is what is wanted.

Except, in real life: you are just dead.

Trading a birthright for a mess of pottage.

[JohnnyL]

sounds like satan’s version of resurrection

abijah wins!

This is what I have been trying to tell people!

There is always a counterfeit to God's plans and no good counterfeit looks entirely different. The more it looks like the real thing, the easier to trick people.

Satan is making promises he can't keep again: Eternal life, but without having to follow the commandments. In fact, with Virtual Reality, it is promised to be full of pornography, violence and video games if that is what is wanted.

Except, in real life: you are just dead.

Trading a birthright for a mess of pottage.

I agree.
The urge to survive, to live forever...

They used to have pigs, golems, and possessions; now they are going to get "their OWN" thing.

[mgridle1]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3LI_XhoHpE8#

Watch and weep.

Real time video facial manipulations.

[kittycat51]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3LI_XhoHpE8#

Watch and weep.

Real time video facial manipulations.

Oh great just great WAY creepy