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Joel wrote: August 27th, 2018, 6:32 pm an older meme

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Joel really hit it in the mark.

People are praising this guy left and right and don't know half the crap he did as an Obama crony. So...in a way praising him for dying isn't a bad thing but for the wrong reasons.

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Whoa!!!

Q has been hinting that after Hillary lost, the inflows to the Clinton Foundation from foreign governments ceased. However, they started up again, but this time into the McCain Institute. John McCain was their new influence in D.C.

https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status ... 8871270400

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Pedo connections, too:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/ ... 64601.html

Maybe just a coincidence?

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Chip wrote: August 27th, 2018, 10:35 pm Whoa!!!

Q has been hinting that after Hillary lost, the inflows to the Clinton Foundation from foreign governments ceased. However, they started up again, but this time into the McCain Institute. John McCain was their new influence in D.C.

https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status ... 8871270400
Good call in pointing this out.

This type of behavior is selling your country and freedoms to the highest bidder. So this is proof that McCain was a Judas.

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Q also hints that he maybe never had a brain tumor, but it was a prep story to fake his death so he could go into hiding. You know the wicked he worked with would receive him into their habitations. Maybe he's not in the U.S., anymore, as huge exposure is right around the corner.

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larsenb wrote: August 27th, 2018, 3:28 pm Here are Mitt Romney's two fulsome twitter entries praising McCain. Some of you may want to get out your barf bags:

The first (see: https://twitter.com/MittRomney ):
No man this century better exemplifies honor, patriotism, service, sacrifice, and country first than Senator John McCain. His heroism inspires, his life shapes our character. I am blessed and humbled by our friendship.
The second (image form):
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If I had any atom of a doubt before this...

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The McCain Legacy in Foreign Policy


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John McCain’s mother Roberta McCain turned 106 on February 7, 2018 and is still alive.

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gardener4life wrote: August 27th, 2018, 5:58 pm Well you did word some aspects better than I did. Thank you for that. I was grateful for your words. I see we have a lot in common.

What's exciting is that there is Vietnamese branches and wards popping up in several urban areas in the US. I've been to some of them, and I've seen family members related by marriage join the church that were from the areas near Hue, which is in central Vietnam. I've been to the Vietnamese word in Little Saigon in California...which is growing steadily. There is a branch in Georgia, Salt Lake City, and I think Seattle (?), and a few other places.

Vietnam opened up officially for the Gospel about a year or two ago and its a very inspiring miracle to many people who had been hoping for it.

Also in a meeting in church in California, people there were told there would in the future be Vietnamese branches all over the west coast. (This part hasn't happened yet.)

I do agree that things could have been done better in the Vietnam War. But I do hope veterans know their sacrifices mean something. My neighbor just died and had served in the Korean War. Many people like him, I don't think they ever saw that the fruit of their sacrifices is that Vietnam just opened, and that Korea and the Phillipines are the bastions of Christianity in Asia that are the only two countries with Christianity over 10%. Korea and Phillipines have really high percentages of Christianity which is so amazing considering that most of Asia is less than 4% Christian. I think that guy would want to know what a difference that makes that we went in there. (And now investment and business is going to Vietname...some of that will be corrupt business...we can't help it, but it will open the door for Christianity in the process...and for LDS.)

And this background of Christianity helps so much. The backgrounds of Buddhism, Shintoism, and the religions of India, and the Middle East are just so very, freaking hard to bridge the gap to get to the Restoration when you first have to spend tons of time comprehending that there's a Heavenly Father first.

https://www.lds.org/church/news/church- ... m?lang=eng

I had been over to Vietnam a few times and they are very nice people. I felt like meeting some of them...this person would make a great member of the church. (You still need to be careful with many of them but you have to do that with people everywhere.)

When you actually are worrying about people that live in a place then having the Gospel open up there becomes something wonderful to wish for and you don't take it for granted.

I wish I could encourage the mainstream Americans and LDS people to wake up. We're taking so much for granted. We're throwing away and taking for granted blessings that others have waited for for centuries that still haven't been given to them. In Vietnamese they barely got the triple combination assembled fully in 1981. They also recently got the hymns, the liahona, and the Gospel Principles book but they don't have all the wonderful treasures of knowledge that we've been given.

And we're throwing it away to legalize things we shouldn't (Prop 2) while others would risk death to have what we have.

It used to be about 10+ years ago there were 3 branches in Vietname...or was it 2 I forgot which and they were mostly people who were Americans working abroad. They secretly would sometimes find people interested in the church, and those people had to risk crossing a mine field to get to Cambodia to be baptized.

Thanks for info on the Vietnam mission (is apparently the Hanoi missio). I'm suprised they allowed it.

However, In recent years I was surpirsed to learn that Columbia Sportswear is being made in Vietnam; that they sponsored a Miss Universe pagent there a few years ago; and that Hillary Clinton even went there trying to enlist them in the 'war on terrah'. All of these things made me cynically think: "So THAT is why we fought in Vietnam". The only problem with this 'realization' is that the same amount of 'progress' could have come decades earlier if we had NOT gone to Vietnam.

Nonetheless, my experience w/Vietnam underscores my sense that the US needs to strictly follow 'just war theory', where you don't conduct war unless directly attacked. And the US has no business proscripting US citizens to fight foreign wars. The corollary to this is that non-defensive wars are an incredible waste of men, moral capital, resources and time; and they produce horrible situations for those who survive in a maimed state, and for their families.

But I'm impressed w/your experience and the apparent fact that the Gospel is taking root among the Vietnamese. I remember attending a dinner in Michigan put on by a Hmong branch there that appeared to be thriving. A situation where the Lord will use existing circumstances to further His work.

As an aside, the 'first convert' in Vietnam, whom I met, attributed the Book of Mormon for his conversion. I think he had been studying English and had the book placed in his hands insome way.

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Jonesy wrote: August 26th, 2018, 10:50 am Q is insinuating it was suicide.

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/2742515.html#2743167
First we gotta see an open casket at one of the viewings... hasn't happened yet... (!)

Maybe in Washington DC at the Capital rotunda laid in state, they'll have the wax maniquinn ready and the red velvet ropes will keep the masses 15' feet away, so they are completely fooled. (The distance is to keep people from spitting on the corpse).

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"I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president." --General Wesley Clark, 2008, on John McCain

[A lot of military men have zero respect for McCain (because they know the truth), but establishment sycophants talk like McCain’s passing is some monumental loss.]

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lundbaek wrote: August 30th, 2018, 2:49 pm "I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president." --General Wesley Clark, 2008, on John McCain

[A lot of military men have zero respect for McCain (because they know the truth), but establishment sycophants talk like McCain’s passing is some monumental loss.]
With Mitt Romney being chief among those sycophants. My sense is that Mitt sees himself as the heir to McCain and will step right into his shoes and perform in the same egregious way McCain did.

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larsenb wrote: August 26th, 2018, 6:28 pm My information in last post came from years of tracking McCain.

Some of the POW information and a good record of his role in squelching repatriation of left-behind POW's/MIA/s can be found in Pulitzer Prize winner, Sydney H. Schanberg's study titled: McCain and the POW Cover-up - The "war hero" candidate buried information about POWs left behind in Vietnam, gets into the nitty gritty of these allegation. You can access the article at: http://www.nationinstitute.org/p/schanberg09182008pt1 . . . .
Interestingly, the link to the Nation Institute has been taken down. Shows you what we're up against. It worked repeatedly for me the last few days.

You could maybe attribute the lost link to the tendency of the globalists wanting to scrub and rewrite history.

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I have for about 20 years suspected that John McCain had some powerful backers and protectors that might well be described as "puppet masters". I never made any effort to figure out who they were/are. Anybody have any thoughts on this ?

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lundbaek wrote: August 30th, 2018, 5:58 pm I have for about 20 years suspected that John McCain had some powerful backers and protectors that might well be described as "puppet masters". I never made any effort to figure out who they were/are. Anybody have any thoughts on this ?
Very possibly a real life Manchurian candidate from his PoW days.

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Truthful and documented information on McCain needs lots of repeating. Sadly, no one in the mainstream media or in Congress that I know of has the courage to say it.

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President Obama speaking in Washington as John McCain lays in rest. Side kisses to John’s wife.

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It is my understanding that a viewing is called such so that people can view the dead body and vouch for the death of a person. What they call a "viewing" in the case of John McCain appears to be a closed casket ordeal and who knows who can vouch that he is actually dead.

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Somehow, John McCain went from disgrace to fame, and was the beneficiary of power somewhere that got him into Congress, the "House" for a couple of years and then into the Senate. My understanding of his life up until sometime after his return from Vietnam was a shambles. Yet it seems to me that somebody(s) must have seen something useful in this guy. Anybody have any ideas about that. I've heard and read suggestion that he was somehow a "Manchurian Candidate", in the pay of someone(s) to do their bidding. I wish I could find proof of that. But for now it's only speculation. It seems to me he was a "useful idiot" for someone(s).

McCain was detested by Larry Chesley, who was shot down in Vietnam and did 7 years in the Hanoi Hilton, and also by Even Meacham, who was shot down and a POW in Germany late in WW2 I got a little bit acquainted with Meacham, and I once visited with him briefly for several minutes in the Mesa Temple when he was a temple worker there. I somehow mentioned McCain to him, and he lit up and said "That man is evil", and went on to elaborate. Somehow, McCain, a real jerk compared to Meacham and Chesley, rose to undeserved fame. Meacham, some of you may know, was elected Governor of AZ but resigned under heat more intense than that being leveled at Trump. And Chesley was for a time in the Arizona state legislature back in the 1990s.

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That funeral wasn't for our benefit.

It was for the benefit of the gadianton robbers. We are outsiders, and they couldn't care less what we think.

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